Mafia 1033 - The Next Generation [Hidden]

[dargorygel]

Rip, argent

What did we learn?

Well I've learnt that the likelihood of you being scum has risen.

Actually I lied, darg is slightly down, Will is down rest are up.

ghug, Vecna 2/3
darg 1/2
bozo, red 5/12
Will 1/3

So, is it your desire that we have a vecna wagon and a ghug wagon?

[damo666]

Well I've learnt that the likelihood of you being scum has risen.

Actually I lied, darg is slightly down, Will is down rest are up.

ghug, Vecna 2/3
darg 1/2
bozo, red 5/12
Will 1/3

So, is it your desire that we have a vecna wagon and a ghug wagon?

Let's see what the night brings. It's marginal. At the moment anyone but me or Bona and preferably not Will.

[ghug]

Actually I lied, darg is slightly down, Will is down rest are up.

ghug, Vecna 2/3
darg 1/2
bozo, red 5/12
Will 1/3

So, is it your desire that we have a vecna wagon and a ghug wagon?

Let's see what the night brings. It's marginal. At the moment anyone but me or Bona and preferably not Will.

How about no.

[damo666]

So, is it your desire that we have a vecna wagon and a ghug wagon?

Let's see what the night brings. It's marginal. At the moment anyone but me or Bona and preferably not Will.

How about no.

No what?

[ghug]

Let's see what the night brings. It's marginal. At the moment anyone but me or Bona and preferably not Will.

How about no.

No what?

No I'm not letting you lead a miskill over me or my townread after you just led a miskill on a nothing lurker.

Day 1: damo is instrumental in killing Rd over bona
Day 2: damo is already tied to bona, might as well vote to save him again.
Day 3: We, led by damo, kill another townie instead of damo or bona.

This isn't rocket science.

[dargorygel]

Actually I lied, darg is slightly down, Will is down rest are up.

ghug, Vecna 2/3
darg 1/2
bozo, red 5/12
Will 1/3

So, is it your desire that we have a vecna wagon and a ghug wagon?

Let's see what the night brings. It's marginal. At the moment anyone but me or Bona and preferably not Will.

This is an interesting statement, my friend.

[Red Neurax]

this game has gone on way too long
we need to take out damo666

[bozotheclown]

That was unfortunate, but I don't think a sub would have improved the situation.

So who's you best guess at the scumteam now?

ghug/Red Neurax/Vecna still seems to fit.

[bozotheclown]

bozo should have known better

There is no reason a low posting new player can't be mafia, and a sub would not have been able to explain what argent was doing. With the experience argent claimed to have had, I thought his lack of reads and ending the days with jokes votes seemed scum indicative.

[Vecna]

How about no.

No what?

No I'm not letting you lead a miskill over me or my townread after you just led a miskill on a nothing lurker.

Day 1: damo is instrumental in killing Rd over bona
Day 2: damo is already tied to bona, might as well vote to save him again.
Day 3: We, led by damo, kill another townie instead of damo or bona.

This isn't rocket science.

but why didnt you want to kill bona to confirm your theory yesterday? Because this all hinges on bona being scum, but you did not vote to confirm that suspicion.

[Vecna]

I wouldve definately voted for a bona wagon yesterday, but the only viable alternative to argent was damo.

I dont get the insistency of everyone to only see those as a pairing.

Im not saying its not possible they are paired, but 1 out of 2 seems just as plausible if not more.

[Vecna]

my subconciousness told me it was darg while I was sleeping btw.

The new insight is that he was way too nervous when I started digging into his connection to bona yesterday. He didnt feel excited at all that I started getting involved and digging.

He said it wasnt showing on the bot that he voted for DIP, but it is. He wrote a full on analysis of all votes between dip and bona, but forgot his own.

When confronted he stated he forgot all about his vote, that went against his entire reads leading upto that point. During d3 he kept hopping around up and down between bona and others.

As stated earlier, it can definately be seen as a towny being clueless and searching. Or he's the missing link in all this.

He is the one that was truely set up well to bus bona at every point in the game. He kept the option and the reasoning availlable, but when it really came down to it, he voted DIP while he had stated earlier he liked DIP's cases.

In hindsight - maybe he just hoped we would forget about that, because in a scum mind, that shit is DAMNING. In a black and white world, which our mafia games often are, that shit might just result in a death sentence.

Or maybe he's just flawed town. but my paranoia is at a 100, and my subconcious tells me he bad.

[Vecna]

Bona + Darg + (someone that was bussing Bona?)

Sorta works. 3rd man could pretty much be anyone

[Vecna]

or maybe i have my head stuck up my ass and it is just damo, who knows.

[Vecna]

That was unfortunate, but I don't think a sub would have improved the situation.

So who's you best guess at the scumteam now?

ghug/Red Neurax/Vecna still seems to fit.

this post and prediction is also so extremely scummy though.

How can you go from wanting to scumread Bona, to just now thinking the best team is that setup?

Id really like a nice explenation of that shit.

[Vecna]

Also, its important to note that it REALLY appears no scum was at risk during d3.

If bona is scum, he was there, active, but he didnt swap. He burned his vote on the Will wagon.

He swore he would do everything to protect damo, but HE DID NOT DO SO.

A single last minute vote swing to damo wouldve killed damo.

He stated openly "newb scumteam stocks increasing".

A vote to argent wouldve both voted inline with that thought, and would guarantee to protect damo.

He never made that vote. He didnt actually care if damo lived or died.

I dont think the 2 are connected.

[Red Neurax]

i think the main thing here is that the majority people think bona is mafia
hence why we should vote him out

[bozotheclown]

So who's you best guess at the scumteam now?

ghug/Red Neurax/Vecna still seems to fit.

this post and prediction is also so extremely scummy though.

How can you go from wanting to scumread Bona, to just now thinking the best team is that setup?

Id really like a nice explenation of that shit.

I don't know what you mean by me wanting to scum read Bonatogether.

Besides you and ghug potentially distancing from each other, you both have been discouraging suspicion of Red Neurax, and Red Neurax has barely mentioned either of you. Your reasons for town reading Red Neurax seem to be based on things that are factually inaccurate.

[bozotheclown]

had to actually look this one up. For some reason the only thing I felt like digging into in this game so far because im intrigued by our new buddy.

It sort of checks out in a very weak way.




this does not smell like scum reasoning to me. odd as it might be.

OK, but that post by DiplomacyandWarfare points out that foodcoats was voting for Red Neurax, yet Red Neurax came away from that thinking DiplomacyandWarfare is the one who was suspicious for trying to get him DKed.

the reasoning I read into it was; this guy is approving of this other guy voting me. thats suspicious.

its not made very explicit, but its the thread of thought I think he wants to convey.

@red; is that a fair interpretation?

Red Neurax's answers on this issue never gave any indication that your interpretation was correct. He also never answered your question, and you did not follow up.

[bozotheclown]

I understand you, at least... thanks, damo.

this guy flips back and forth so much
previously he was saying its me now he says its unlikely to me
additionally, he makes many claims but all of them are paper thin - he has nothing to back it up

ex. saying vecna will bona are a possible trio but then says low possibility without any actual argument

i feel like hes trying to overcompensate

Still quite happy with my red townread.

This is actually quite a spicy take

I assume you were referring to Red Neurax's suspicion of damo, but the only specific thing he mentioned in this post was not accurate.