Mafia 1033 - The Next Generation [Hidden]

[dargorygel]

When I've been sus of bona, damo seems scum to me. Especially when he seems over committed to bona' s defense. When I see bona more favorable, damo seems more sensible. Still overcommited, though.

[damo666]

I don't get the sense that it's about argent, though, and I don't see why we'd let him dictate the whole day by not being here.

Hi ghug...
I am starting over with you, too. If this pause has not happened because folk are waiting for argent (and I agree with you) than what do you think it is?

I know for me personally I'm one part RL busy and one part struggling to get a good sense of the game, which is demotivating me.

Argent seems like such a copout kill from a group that can't make a real decision to me.

There are no particularly obvious info slips so argent is as good as anyone.

[ghug]

Hi ghug...
I am starting over with you, too. If this pause has not happened because folk are waiting for argent (and I agree with you) than what do you think it is?

I know for me personally I'm one part RL busy and one part struggling to get a good sense of the game, which is demotivating me.

Argent seems like such a copout kill from a group that can't make a real decision to me.

There are no particularly obvious info slips so argent is as good as anyone.

Occam's razor continues to tell me it's you, bona, and someone like bozo who'd have bussed Bona but not that hard.

If I'm right, an argent kill is beyond useless. If I'm wrong, we get a kill and then we have morning else to go on because argent has nothing with anyone. If you want to vote for him, fine, but just throwing your hands up and saying "oh well, this day is just about quietly sorting a lurker" when we have one miskill left does not sit well with me.

[damo666]

I know for me personally I'm one part RL busy and one part struggling to get a good sense of the game, which is demotivating me.

Argent seems like such a copout kill from a group that can't make a real decision to me.

There are no particularly obvious info slips so argent is as good as anyone.

Occam's razor continues to tell me it's you, bona, and someone like bozo who'd have bussed Bona but not that hard.

If I'm right, an argent kill is beyond useless. If I'm wrong, we get a kill and then we have morning else to go on because argent has nothing with anyone. If you want to vote for him, fine, but just throwing your hands up and saying "oh well, this day is just about quietly sorting a lurker" when we have one miskill left does not sit well with me.

Would killing Will be better?

[dargorygel]

Jamie and dip both shaded will.
Bona, I believe, shades will.
Damo's computer doesn’t like will.

I'll start this.
##vote justaguynamed will.

He has conversations with a number of people... more than argent does. It could help unravel.

[Bonatogether]

i affirmatively townread damo and think it's value-negative on any day to kill a lurker, although obviously over the course of a game it can be value-positive (ie, on any given day shiny object takes precedence in my mind), so i don't really want to vote argent but if he dies, i won't feel bad about it regardless

[Bonatogether]

based on outstanding votes i assume the real vote count is
4 damo
3 argent
2 will

if this is how things shake out, i will work to prevent a damo kill

[ghug]

There are no particularly obvious info slips so argent is as good as anyone.

Occam's razor continues to tell me it's you, bona, and someone like bozo who'd have bussed Bona but not that hard.

If I'm right, an argent kill is beyond useless. If I'm wrong, we get a kill and then we have morning else to go on because argent has nothing with anyone. If you want to vote for him, fine, but just throwing your hands up and saying "oh well, this day is just about quietly sorting a lurker" when we have one miskill left does not sit well with me.

Would killing Will be better?

I townread Will.

[dargorygel]

Occam's razor continues to tell me it's you, bona, and someone like bozo who'd have bussed Bona but not that hard.

If I'm right, an argent kill is beyond useless. If I'm wrong, we get a kill and then we have morning else to go on because argent has nothing with anyone. If you want to vote for him, fine, but just throwing your hands up and saying "oh well, this day is just about quietly sorting a lurker" when we have one miskill left does not sit well with me.

Would killing Will be better?

I townread Will.

My mistake... I thought I recalled you voting, or being willing (no pun) earlier.

[ghug]

Would killing Will be better?

I townread Will.

My mistake... I thought I recalled you voting, or being willing (no pun) earlier.

Do you scumread Will?

[dargorygel]

I townread Will.

My mistake... I thought I recalled you voting, or being willing (no pun) earlier.

He is null. But i prefer this null to argent.

All of the bits that seem scummy to my eyes might bec result of him being sick.

I no longer wish to kill bona. I'm trying to trust you. Vecna is town. I'm not wild about red, but realize it is the remains of his entrance. I don't see damo as scum. I'm swingy on bozo, mostly right now because I am suspicious of his LACK of mech.
Do you scumread Will?

[dargorygel]

My mistake... I thought I recalled you voting, or being willing (no pun) earlier.

He is null. But i prefer this null to argent.

All of the bits that seem scummy to my eyes might bec result of him being sick.

I no longer wish to kill bona. I'm trying to trust you. Vecna is town. I'm not wild about red, but realize it is the remains of his entrance. I don't see damo as scum. I'm swingy on bozo, mostly right now because I am suspicious of his LACK of mech.
Do you scumread Will?

This was answer to Ghug's query about will.

[Red Neurax]

what are we thinking are possible mafia teams

eg. If damo is mafia then bona would likely as well

etc

[dargorygel]

what are we thinking are possible mafia teams

eg. If damo is mafia then bona would likely as well

etc

Do you believe they would be this blatant?

[Vecna]

i really dont wanna kill damo.

i wouldnt mind seeing a readswall type post from ghug

[BunnyGo]

Latest Day 3 Vote Count:

(sorry no flavor text this time)

argent (3) damo666 bozotheclown Vecna
damo666 (2) ghug Red Neurax
JustAGuyNamedWill (2) Bonatogether dargorygel

Day ends in 1.75 hours (That's 105 minutes or 1 hour 45 minutes)

Just still needs to place a vote.

argent still needs a minimum of 4 posts and a vote.

Anyone not meeting the minimum requirements will be replaced.

[bozotheclown]

Thats because I was polling players to find out if I could get a wagon going on you. Do you feel that is scummy behaviour?

Also, do you think Ghug would actually try to get a wagon going on me while im AFK on day1 while were scum partners?

This feels like youre looking for reasons to scumread me without actually coming to the conclusion I might be scum naturally.

It could be scum indicative to try to find out first instead of just voting for me.

ghug voted for you D1 when there were 4 other wagons, that seems like a safe distancing vote, and the kind of vote I have seen ghug make many times as mafia. Even though you ended up picking up 2 more votes, ghug could have moved off of your wagon if necessary, and he did right after Jamie moved his vote off of you, which took you out of contention for the DK. That is the point of distance voting, to make it look like he was OK with DKing you.

this applies to nearly any vote.

You are the one who brought up the D1 vote specifically. I was referring to a series of interactions. For instance, you saying ghug gave a bad reason for justifying his vote on you, him defending it by saying he misread one of your posts, and you vaguely accepting his defense but still generally suspecting him.

[Red Neurax]

what are we thinking are possible mafia teams

eg. If damo is mafia then bona would likely as well

etc

Do you believe they would be this blatant?

not really

[bozotheclown]

I know for me personally I'm one part RL busy and one part struggling to get a good sense of the game, which is demotivating me.

Argent seems like such a copout kill from a group that can't make a real decision to me.

There are no particularly obvious info slips so argent is as good as anyone.

Occam's razor continues to tell me it's you, bona, and someone like bozo who'd have bussed Bona but not that hard.

If I'm right, an argent kill is beyond useless. If I'm wrong, we get a kill and then we have morning else to go on because argent has nothing with anyone. If you want to vote for him, fine, but just throwing your hands up and saying "oh well, this day is just about quietly sorting a lurker" when we have one miskill left does not sit well with me.

I would have had to been hard bussing Bonatogether D2 EOD.

I think there is a good chance argent is mafia for the same reason I thought
Kakarroto was mafia in the football game. If he does not want to play he could have subbed out, so lurking is likely a strategy, and it is not a good one as town.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hello