Mafia 1033 - The Next Generation [Hidden]

[ghug]

I think he was being honest when he said that he was voting at least in part to survive, but he also was clearly working towards wagoning me - the first time he voted rdr, he was leaving my wagon at 3 votes (so both of his preferred wagons were the only ones above a single vote), and he also returned to voting me because the 'rdr wagon doesn't seem to be going anywhere' (read: he picked up an additional vote).

i think every one of his vote moves in eod1 can be explained by it being preceded by someone voting for him (second vote for me, second vote for rdr)

How do you reconcile this with the fact that he refused to vote for you when it came down to it?

one of my favorite things about what you guys are doing is that you avoid saying names, because you don't want to imply anyone might be paired with me. Keeps you neutral, helps you move to any wagon you want tomorrow

Huh? I think the only way you're scum is if this is a huge busfest with Bona, and I've been very consistent about that.

[ghug]

Well the argent wagon sucks.

Let's make it better.

##VOTE argent

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

jamie if we kill DaW today I'll join you on will tomorrow

This is VERY good scumplay, bona. You're already preparing to secure another miskill tomorrow.

[Bonatogether]

How do you reconcile this with the fact that he refused to vote for you when it came down to it?

my wagon didn't have momentum + rdr was going up

That happened later. He could have tied it with a vote on you.

the votes on me were darg (gone and not a vote swinger), argent (no thread weight), and himself (spooked). rdr had vecna (gone but potentially a big push factor) and will (who i believe to be himself), with more active thread momentum that would then crystallize into the cascade of votes

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

How do you reconcile this with the fact that he refused to vote for you when it came down to it?

one of my favorite things about what you guys are doing is that you avoid saying names, because you don't want to imply anyone might be paired with me. Keeps you neutral, helps you move to any wagon you want tomorrow

I think either Damo or Bozo is one of your partners, for the record.

You should know by now that I hate bussing

[damo666]

3way

[Bonatogether]

jamie if we kill DaW today I'll join you on will tomorrow

This is VERY good scumplay, bona. You're already preparing to secure another miskill tomorrow.

you haven't produced a reason why i'm scum or to justify any vote of yours, and you only reappeared now when you picked up votes. this is clear flailing

[dargorygel]

Bona has looked better as the day went on. Less sparky. I think scumbona would have stayed sarcastic.

Argent is a newbie, who i don't know. I've read the case on him. But was not overly moved.

If I have to choose, I'll go argent atm.

I disagree with this assessment. I think scum bona is more inclined to acquiesce and try to look good, while town bins would be more stubborn.

I disagree with this disagreement. But only because he was grumpy at first. I agree that he would be hsppy happy as scum from the start. And then stay that way.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I have no desire to kill argent today. Newbies get a pass for lurking if they can make an effort to develop decent reads (which argent has attempted to do)

[Bonatogether]

i believe i'm going to die but that should clearly show that DaW and will are scum openwolfing

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

jamie if we kill DaW today I'll join you on will tomorrow

This is VERY good scumplay, bona. You're already preparing to secure another miskill tomorrow.

you haven't produced a reason why i'm scum or to justify any vote of yours, and you only reappeared now when you picked up votes. this is clear flailing

You are gaslighting the entire thread. Go back and reread my posts near the end of the night.

[Bonatogether]

This is VERY good scumplay, bona. You're already preparing to secure another miskill tomorrow.

you haven't produced a reason why i'm scum or to justify any vote of yours, and you only reappeared now when you picked up votes. this is clear flailing

You are gaslighting the entire thread. Go back and reread my posts near the end of the night.

you should have read my case where i show that those had no substance

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

i believe i'm going to die but that should clearly show that DaW and will are scum openwolfing

Wrong. I'm still trying to figure out if I'm buddying will or will is buddying me, but we're both town.

[Bonatogether]

i believe i'm going to die but that should clearly show that DaW and will are scum openwolfing

Wrong. I'm still trying to figure out if I'm buddying will or will is buddying me, but we're both town.

how can buddying be going on if there's no scum in the interaction? think about that one

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

you haven't produced a reason why i'm scum or to justify any vote of yours, and you only reappeared now when you picked up votes. this is clear flailing

You are gaslighting the entire thread. Go back and reread my posts near the end of the night.

you should have read my case where i show that those had no substance

you mean the "case" of you arguing that an unspecified player(s) are trying desperately to avoid wagoning me?
or the case where you claim that I'm assuming you're scum under evidence?
Whose case really has no substance here?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

i believe i'm going to die but that should clearly show that DaW and will are scum openwolfing

Wrong. I'm still trying to figure out if I'm buddying will or will is buddying me, but we're both town.

how can buddying be going on if there's no scum in the interaction? think about that one

...
yeah we're definitely using different definitions of that word

[Bonatogether]

You are gaslighting the entire thread. Go back and reread my posts near the end of the night.

you should have read my case where i show that those had no substance

you mean the "case" of you arguing that an unspecified player(s) are trying desperately to avoid wagoning me?
or the case where you claim that I'm assuming you're scum under evidence?
Whose case really has no substance here?

you are so deeply out of touch with reality it's astounding. throughout all of day 1, you never made an original argument, and you never made a vote that wasn't based on self preservation. you couldn't keep your story straight within individual posts! it is so clear

[Bonatogether]

Wrong. I'm still trying to figure out if I'm buddying will or will is buddying me, but we're both town.

how can buddying be going on if there's no scum in the interaction? think about that one

...
yeah we're definitely using different definitions of that word

buddying is scum being friendly to get townread

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote is tied.

[ghug]

Vote is tied.

Will you vote for DiplomacyandWarfare to break the tie?