Mafia 1033 - The Next Generation [Hidden]

[dargorygel]

isnt the day supposed to end

Tomorrow at 6 EST

[dargorygel]

Is it worth examining USUALLY big posters who are being quiet?

[dargorygel]

Or is that as silly as my suspicion of the "thanks, mate" entrance?

[BunnyGo]

Captain's Log Star Date 54021.2:

Lieutenant Commander Data informs me that holodeck 2 has been malfunctioning, and that at least one of my officers, Lieutenant Barclay, is trapped inside.

I have asked Data to review the crew's logs for anomalies. I refuse to believe that Starfleet officers and staff would behave like this if they were in their right minds.

DiplomacyandWarfare (3) Bonatogether damo666 Jamiet99uk
Bonatogether (2) dargorygel DiplomacyandWarfare
Vecna (2) ghug argent
damo666 (1) Red Neurax
Red Neurax (1) bozotheclown
argent (1) Vecna

Day 2 ends in just about 18 hours.

DiplomacyandWarfare is set to be unceremoniously, wantonly, and instantly killed by Armus.

JustAGuyNamedWill has neither posted nor voted.

argent needs to make at least one more post.

Everyone else has met their minimum requirements.

[Red Neurax]

i think its bona damo and jamiet so
##vote bonatogether

[Bonatogether]

My initial suspicion was that his whole Doctor Who thing was a bit fake, but now my feelings come down to the EoD wagonomics I posted earlier (which you acknowledged). It looks to me like several people were desperate to motivate other wagons at EoD when D&W was a serious contender to be chopped.

jimathon knows what's up

is "what's up" the entire scumteam creatively ignoring that the other big wagon was bona?

being left out to dry? can't blame your teammates for that one

[Bonatogether]

going to try to put in some more effort tomorrow against d&w before he dips out to the gt

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet; felt like usual town-jamiet d1, but his recent tone just feels like he's thrashing around to find reasons to scumread people. Not nessacerily scum-indicative, but it feels hostile. His characterisation of my lie-detector joke to poke at RDR being labelled as "calling him a liar" just seems like a weird characterization. The way he attacked red also feels overly aggressive, like he's perceiving us as the enemy and is on a search and destroy mission looking for targets.

Two things here that I want to respond to:

1. You did the "lie detector" post about Rdr, and then you voted for him, and then you left your vote there all day. So yes it did look like you called him a liar and that was the reason for your vote. Care to explain why you actually scumread him, if I apparently got this wrong?

2. When did I "aggressively" "attack" Red Neurax. This feels like fabrication. I haven't been overly aggressive or unreasonable towards Red at any point; I pressure voted them to encourage participation. That's not undue aggression and it looks like you're protecting Red here for some reason.

[Jamiet99uk]

@dip and @bozo

Haven't you seen Jamie do the 'emphasis vote' before? What was suspicious about it this time?

I don't remember seeing Jamie do this before, but I haven't been analyzing the bot vote info as much before this game.

And particularly @dip, you stated that on other sites you find this anti-town... can you 'splain?

...Didn't I already do this?
It makes the vote appear to be more popular than it already is
you know, bandwagon effect
pushes people to go to that vote
(jamie literally admitted that he wanted to cause a bandwagon on me by doing this)

which sounds fine but it obsufucates the real info about who the bandwagons are on. Aside from the issues of bandwagoning itself (which this behavior encourages), it hides information about who people are actually currently voting for.

It is especially anti-town with 2 newbies here.

It's not anti town if you're scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Me neither, wanna join me?

I will if who does.

those of us who are town don't leave the wagons of those we know are scum to vote random other wagons, nor do we try to pressure others into doing the same.

Those of us who are town don't "know" who the scum are.
Only scum know that.

You are opposed to lurking *and* opposed to pressure voting lurkers, eh?

[Jamiet99uk]

This vote is going slow and there are mafia on me, so votes going off me are unlikely. Time to stir the pot and join a different counterwagon
##vote bona

So just to be clear, you claim you "know" Damo and Bona are both scum.
You know this.
It is a proven fact, in your mind.

[Jamiet99uk]

considering the fact that dip is defending will, and dip's likely scum, then will's probably there too
and being wrong makes you more likely to be scum than being right

Can you expand on the last point?

In general, although scum have more information about the game and can draw better conclusions, they benefit from misdirection. In any case, I have been voted for, so I must countervote out of spite.

##vote vecna

No, that isn't how.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is it worth examining USUALLY big posters who are being quiet?

Whom would you place into that category?

[Jamiet99uk]

i think its bona damo and jamiet so
##vote bonatogether

Why do you think this?
Are you copying Dip&War's reads?

[Jamiet99uk]

Argent is rubbing me up the wrong way.
I'd better leave him though or Vecna will accuse me of being aggressive.

[Jamiet99uk]

A concise summary of Argent's play so far:

DAY ONE
Page 10: Apologises for showing up a bit late; endorses the idea of a "no kill". States he has some previous Mafia experience, and discusses how well or badly he has played before depending on alignment.

Also Page 10: Votes Bona in (possibly feigned) outrage, because Bona called him an inhabitant of "Dorkathon Prime".

Page 19: Speculates that he "might" use his phaser, N1.

Page 25: Asks why people are voting Rdrivera.

EoD1: Keeps his vote on Bona even though it was only an "outrage" vote for being called a Dork.

NIGHT ONE
Page 27: Disagrees with Red Neurax about whether town can use phasers strategically.

Page 28: Shitposts a string of numbers in the direction of Bonatogether.

DAY TWO (current)
Page 32: Votes Will because Will started the momentum on Rdrivera.

Page 34: Speculates that Will and D&W are scum partners. Opines that "being wrong makes you more likely to be scum".
(I disagree with the latter point).

Page 37: Votes Vecna "out of spite" because Vecna has voted him.

[ghug]

Is it worth examining USUALLY big posters who are being quiet?

Who are you talking about? I think that's more likely to be out of game reasons than with more middle of the pack people.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Argent: I have some questions for you:

1. On D1 you voted Bonatogether because he called you a dork; you left your vote there all day. Now on D2 you are voting Vecna "out of spite". Is it your normal approach to just vote for people who suspect you or criticise you?

2. Do you think the scum team is Vecna, Bonatogether, JustWill? Your voting suggests you suspect this, but can you clarify?

[ghug]

i think its bona damo and jamiet so
##vote bonatogether

Ok tell me about boneo and jamiet.

[Jamiet99uk]

Good morning, Ghug.

Care to join me in a game of holographic tennis on recreation deck 17?