Mafia 91 - Battle for the Sunset Strip - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[worcej]

I took a N3 gun as town because of the exact thought process that BB has here - no one would pick a N3 rose and if the game goes longer, then I'd have a gun available to shoot.

Last time this setup was ran, almost everyone picked roses. I made my choice to avoid people picking N1 and N2 roses.

So you were worried about making sure your shot was successful on town? Why would mafia have taken a n1 or n2 rose?

Why wouldn't they take one in a game full of vigilante shots?

[worcej]

The fear of taking a gun n1 or n2 should be hitting town, not worried about the shot failing to go through.

So because I wanted my power to have leverage and successful, you think I'm scummy?

[worcej]

To be clear, I am never afraid of being killed at night because I rarely do get NK'ed.

It's always dumbass town pushes that scum get to laugh about in their QT/Discord after the fact that spells my doom.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.6

worcej (3) - SpiritoftheRadio, GlitterBomb, brainbomb
damo666 (2) - BunnyGo, ghug
ghug (2) - damo666, Yoyoyozo
Yoyoyozo (1) Vecna
GlitterBomb (1) worcej

WORCEJ is now heading for the top of the charts.

One hour and 14 minutes remain in Day Two.

[Vecna]

There is a simple adage that the people trying are usually town and the people who are not trying are not town.

And in order to find mafia you have to figure out who is really trying to
Put their thoughts out and who isnt.

Who is really trying to solve a game and who is trying to just do enough to stay alive.

In that I think the mafia whoever you are have done a very decent job of rising to above the bar at trying to seem to be playing the game. Because I could
Make an argument for each of you about why youve done that.

But if im grading effort; not the actual quality of the effort but volume and consistent effort then I think it gets alot harder.

While glitter has not been as active as most she has not failed to present her opinions. That said are her scumreads very intentional and well explained or are they just for a lack of not knowing what else to do. I think her pushes seem intentional but with half hearted intent. Maybe unsure of what actually sounds like the right thing to say. And yet this is how she played in her other two games where she was toying with ideas and feeling things out. She is doing just enough to keep playing and keep trying and worcej makes sense for thinking this is scummy.
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For doing what they usually do, trying hard. Showing effort. Being present. Producing content and ideas. Yea bunny is here but he also
Isnt asking questions and instead of challenging people
He is mostly just shooting peoples ideas down which implies having a cheat sheet. When I posited maybe balki was scared of my post that worcej shot down and balki wanted it silenced; bunny has a short and curt answer that balki is just trying to answer honestly. But how do we assume this? Why do
We assume this? What is the motivation for Balki to agree with town worcej on a post that shoots me down? And no effort is or was made to
Ponder it. This is one example. When bunny gets suspected he suddenly whips into tons of theory crafting on damo and yoyo and glitter. This seems like manufactured content for fear of being noticed having none.


And then vecna, vecna had vanished for ages. His presence and effort low. And then arrives; rapidly pushes scumreads on ghug; gets that going then moves out.

When I suspect vecna and ghug: bunny replies that would never be the answer. Again assumed an answer with a cheat sheet.


So adjusting for gamestate;

Worcej seems town here
Glitter is null
Damo has seemed sort of town to me all along
Yoyo is still potentially just trolly town

Leaving vecna and bunny. Vecna did just enough to get himself off radars and then left again.

##vote bunny

this vanishing thing gets really tiring. people have jobs, weekends, timezones. saying my effort is low is also a major shittake thats pretty insulting.

[worcej]

[snip the massive BB wall of meaninglessness]
this vanishing thing gets really tiring. people have jobs, weekends, timezones. saying my effort is low is also a major shittake thats pretty insulting.

100% agree that people seem to conflate volume and timing as measurements of effort is shit.

[worcej]

VOTE COUNT 2.6

worcej (3) - SpiritoftheRadio, GlitterBomb, brainbomb
damo666 (2) - BunnyGo, ghug
ghug (2) - damo666, Yoyoyozo
Yoyoyozo (1) Vecna
GlitterBomb (1) worcej

WORCEJ is now heading for the top of the charts.

One hour and 14 minutes remain in Day Two.

Of important note - I could move my vote to damo to "tie" this situation, but damo will save his own ass by voting me, creating a situation where we learn nothing.

If I am going to die, our stupid town clears need to be responsible for it so I can vote them as LVP and nag the shit out of whichever one of them ends up in the GT next with me.

[brainbomb]

You said you took a N3 gun so you didnt have to deal with hitting any roses

The first flaw in that rationale is that mafia would be taking roses over firepower and choosing N2. i can even understand N1 being a concern for you but explain why youd be worried about a mafia having a N2 rose? How would that benefit a scumteam and describe a scenario you envisioned where you shot mafia n2 and they had a rose and this somehow ruined the game for you?

The second flaw in this rationale is valuing your shot going through over being able to make A positive impact in a game that might be very very short

The third flaw is that I just dont beleive the things you are saying wrt to your choice. It makes me think youve already shot someone

[worcej]

You said you took a N3 gun so you didnt have to deal with hitting any roses

The first flaw in that rationale is that mafia would be taking roses over firepower and choosing N2. i can even understand N1 being a concern for you but explain why youd be worried about a mafia having a N2 rose? How would that benefit a scumteam and describe a scenario you envisioned where you shot mafia n2 and they had a rose and this somehow ruined the game for you?

The second flaw in this rationale is valuing your shot going through over being able to make A positive impact in a game that might be very very short

The third flaw is that I just dont beleive the things you are saying wrt to your choice. It makes me think youve already shot someone

You're framing this opinion with the knowledge that this game will be over soon when in reality we had no idea how many N1 deaths would occur on D1.

On D1 I was a single town player making a choice on before witnessing any game actions. I made my choice based on the last time we played this setup where almost everyone grabbed roses and the game proceeded like a normal game. Do you not recall this?

And, tbh, all of this information is in the open because you made stupid assumptions and some dumbass "plan" in the open that I wouldn't be able to demonstate live actions of because you're too unwilling to be involved with sorting your wife's slot out.

[worcej]

Like, literally your stupid tunnelling and spiraling with questions on why I talked about yoyo and then the whole "he can shoot glitter on N2" is why I had to openly discuss my picks.

[brainbomb]

So surely someone else with a gun will just shoot her if you flip town.

[brainbomb]

I can respect that you think shes scum and want her to die. But what I dont believe is that your primary concern would be your gun killing someone. That doesnt seem town to me

[worcej]

So surely someone else with a gun will just shoot her if you flip town.

Probably not. But I think you've done so much damage to town this game already that I just want to fucking die to get to the GT to confirm that the team is probably damo/glitter.

I want to vote damo to flip his ass because I think bunny and ghug are right about him, but the townclears are fucking retarded and are voting me for bullshit reasons and letting actual scum get away with it this phase.

[worcej]

I can respect that you think shes scum and want her to die. But what I dont believe is that your primary concern would be your gun killing someone. That doesnt seem town to me

WHO DOESN'T WANT TO VIGILANTE SCUM AS TOWN?!

[BunnyGo]

So surely someone else with a gun will just shoot her if you flip town.

Probably not. But I think you've done so much damage to town this game already that I just want to fucking die to get to the GT to confirm that the team is probably damo/glitter.

I want to vote damo to flip his ass because I think bunny and ghug are right about him, but the townclears are fucking retarded and are voting me for bullshit reasons and letting actual scum get away with it this phase.

So just vote him. Vecna also said he’d consider damo

[brainbomb]

I can respect that you think shes scum and want her to die. But what I dont believe is that your primary concern would be your gun killing someone. That doesnt seem town to me

WHO DOESN'T WANT TO VIGILANTE SCUM AS TOWN?!

You didnt say scum though. You said you didnt want to hit someone with a rose and have to deal with a failed kill attempt. Thats not the same

[worcej]

So surely someone else with a gun will just shoot her if you flip town.

Probably not. But I think you've done so much damage to town this game already that I just want to fucking die to get to the GT to confirm that the team is probably damo/glitter.

I want to vote damo to flip his ass because I think bunny and ghug are right about him, but the townclears are fucking retarded and are voting me for bullshit reasons and letting actual scum get away with it this phase.

So just vote him. Vecna also said he’d consider damo

It's going to result in a tie and I'd rather die than have to suffer more of BB as a town clear.

[brainbomb]

So surely someone else with a gun will just shoot her if you flip town.

Probably not. But I think you've done so much damage to town this game already that I just want to fucking die to get to the GT to confirm that the team is probably damo/glitter.

I want to vote damo to flip his ass because I think bunny and ghug are right about him, but the townclears are fucking retarded and are voting me for bullshit reasons and letting actual scum get away with it this phase.

Considering I have a son with Down Syndrome I should not have to explain why this post and the person giving a +1 to it should probably rethink how they handle high pressure interrogations.

[worcej]

I can respect that you think shes scum and want her to die. But what I dont believe is that your primary concern would be your gun killing someone. That doesnt seem town to me

WHO DOESN'T WANT TO VIGILANTE SCUM AS TOWN?!

You didnt say scum though. You said you didnt want to hit someone with a rose and have to deal with a failed kill attempt. Thats not the same

So because I said "someone" versus "scum", you assume that I am more likely to be scum because I spoke like a normal person versus being more particular about exact word choice?

[BunnyGo]

Probably not. But I think you've done so much damage to town this game already that I just want to fucking die to get to the GT to confirm that the team is probably damo/glitter.

I want to vote damo to flip his ass because I think bunny and ghug are right about him, but the townclears are fucking retarded and are voting me for bullshit reasons and letting actual scum get away with it this phase.

So just vote him. Vecna also said he’d consider damo

It's going to result in a tie and I'd rather die than have to suffer more of BB as a town clear.

I mean…you do you, but I’m pretty sure that’s a bit fatalistic. You can still catch a scum today and shoot one tomorrow night for the hero win…