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#421 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:50 pm

I can see the people voting me as having this sort of internal model.

1. Is bb scummy or clogging the game ✅

2. Does someone else voting bb seem to be on my level; and fit what id expect to see from them if they were town ✅

3. I am not moved by any other options people have presented ✅

4. Day 1 is a toss up anyway and its better to just get a miskill out of the way of someone high profile and hunt in the wake ✅

I would say those types of check marks probably fit someone like worcej town game, and also fit ghug although for ghug id assume town ghug fucks around late day moving votes opportunistically to drive up shock
And awe bait eliminations. If ghug were to just anchor and leave for the day in present gamestate that would imply I did something truly horrible or hes mafia.

For spirit I think he doesnt check many of these boxes he is pretty deep into omgus and this isnt about strategy as town this is about me or him and its do or die. Feels a ton like spy vs spy where the outcome is fueled by more than just simple scumreads. Spirit kind of gives away his scum meta here.

Bunny is just so unwaivering and unwilling to communicate that I think it actually is some standoff gimmick hes doing with himself where he cant give up on his first gut instinct. Something probably happened where he is regretting not seeing something through in a past game and wants to see the receipts for
Himself and prove himself. So that is somewhat of an argument in his favor but its also gambling the day away on his own arrogance.


Chaqa leaving feels out of character and makes me think chaqa is either very strongly townreading and vibing with my voter bloc or he wanted to feed bunnys ego and try to feed the wagons ego in general.


Will posturing now that im scum after desperately seeking validation that he wasnt scumreading me before seems like scum will waiting for when the wagon is huge and then he can turn in on the townies voting me who he thinks are easiest and least well positioned.
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#422 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:51 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:33 pm
From what I read so far Brain is actually being a real stand up dude here where’s this DESTRUCTIVE behavior you are seeing??
+1

I feel like there must be ten pages of this game that I just missed. People keep asserting that Brainbomb is doing something strange or destructive, and I feel like they must be on heroin.

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#423 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:54 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:50 pm
Will posturing now that im scum after desperately seeking validation that he wasnt scumreading me before seems like scum will waiting for when the wagon is huge and then he can turn in on the townies voting me who he thinks are easiest and least well positioned.
I have this same impression.

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#424 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:57 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:42 pm
@brain why are you misrepresenting me telling you not to be dumb as me thinking that "anyone who votes for me is stupid"?
Didnt know that was the nuance you were going for
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#425 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:58 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm
To expand, you voted me because I said I'm taking a N1 gun and shooting someone. Do you honestly think town!Chaqa would take a rose? You should know me better than that
I was voting you for the fake menacing tone the post had. “Look at me im a man im going for a gun; fear me”

It had that vibe to it and it seemed really fake
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#427 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:02 pm

VOTE COUNT 1.9

Brainbomb (4) BunnyGo, Ghug, SpiritoftheRadio, Worcej
FlaviusAetius (4) Spartaculous, Damo666, Glitterbomb, Yoyoyozo
Chaqa (1) Brainbomb
Spartaculous (1) Chaqa
Ghug (1) Vecna

Unvoted: Balki Bartokomous
Balki, Flavius, JustWill, need to vote.

The vote is TIED.

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#428 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:02 pm

Ok IM NOT SURE WHY but my comment keeps going away

But brain asked for responses on 3 ppl if they were townread snd I was trying to make the point that its pretty sus for anyone to have anymore than 2-3 super firm reads D1

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#429 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:03 pm

Maybe its my wife, spirit and balki

That would be hilarious; and would explain some oddities
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#430 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:04 pm

##vote spirit
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#431 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:09 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:45 pm
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:04 pm
The thing is I do have a scumread on brain rn. He just has made a ton of factual errors (pot kettle) in his analysis which is not normal for him and is acting strange


I think it may be smart to actually keep him in
We don’t need any hero shooting so he will stay here to take the bullets. Whoever wants the cred can claim their shot EON1
This post concerns me a little, @Will. It just feels a little opportunistic.

Can you spell out your scum read on Brain further? What factual errors and why is that alignment indicative to you? Also, “acting strange” how?
Well he says and analyzes things that just arent there and is pushing my posts (which up until now were not a scumread on brain) into a context where they are

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#432 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:10 pm

GlitterBomb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:38 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:34 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:15 am


I'm working on a post; it should be up soon.
I don't have as much interesting data as I would have hoped to share tonight. Interest in the coordinated strategy seems minimal, so I decided to change my efforts to something else.

I think that we should be focusing more attention on the non-posters. Right now, that's damo, Yoyoyozo, and Flav. Is the fact that they haven't posted yet mafia-indicative?

I went back and looked at 25 of damo's games. (I could have done more, but this felt like a big enough sample size.) He's a chronically slow poster on Day 1. Here's a chart of the number of hours after game start before his first post, along with his alignment in each:

damo # hours from game start until first poat
M1028 0 Town
M1015 0 Town
M77.. 0 Town
M51.. 1 Town
M1009 2 Town
M80.. 4 Town
M1031 5 Mafia
M83.. 8 Town
M1023 10 Mafia
M89.. 11 Town
M1026 12 Town
M90.. 12 Town
M81.. 13 Mafia
M79.. 13 Mafia
M87.. 13 Mafia
M1027 13 Town
M82.. 13 Town
M78.. 14 Town
M1014 14 Mafia
M52.. 15 Town
M88.. 16 Town
M84.. 17 Town
M86.. 17 Town
M1025 19 Town
M85.. 25 Town

His delayed first post does not seem to indicate him being mafia. (Of course, I would not consider it town-indicative.)

The other two don't have as large sample sizes to go from, but here's what I dug up:

Yoyo # hours
M1031 0 Town
M24.. 1 Town
M58.. 1 Mafia
M1014 3 Town
M1029 17 Town
M62.. 18 Mafia
M23.. 47 Town

Again, this doesn't really seem to indicate anything to me. I would be jumping all over Yoyo right now... except for the one game as town where Yoyo didn't post anything until pretty close to EOD.

Flav # hours
M89.. 1 Town
M46.. 1 Mafia
M50.. 5 Town
M52.. 6 Town
M90.. 10 Mafia
M51.. 16 Town
M1009 21 Mafia
M1031 26 Town

I see the slightest lean towards Flav posting later as Mafia here. It's not overwhelming evidence, but:

##vote FlaviusAetius

In any case, not posting is not helping town.
I agree! And that’s what I’ve been saying! But apparently you and I are some of the only ones annoyed by it because of how it doesn’t help us. I personally witnessed this in the last game and inactivity caused a lot of issues (and I believe almost all of the super inactives were town).

Thanks for digging this all up, I like the background.

So I ask this… is it better for us to vote for someone who is likely on a track to be mod killed because of not posting the required amount? If we go with what you’re thinking and vote Flavius out for instance, but he ends up town, and he would have been modkilled anyway, we save losing more town all at once?
YES killing lurkers early is SUCH a bad idea its ridiculous for Spart to do THIS much research and push this idea

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#433 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:11 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:31 am
Flav is last yo post.

##vote Flav

Brain verbosity implies town.

Think Sparta, Chaqa and Mrs B Pro town.

No great opinion on others.

Monday game starts are difficult for me hence typical lateness joining.
Hoping this wont be a parked vote you will be too AFK to come back and change…

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#434 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:13 pm

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:09 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:45 pm
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:04 pm
The thing is I do have a scumread on brain rn. He just has made a ton of factual errors (pot kettle) in his analysis which is not normal for him and is acting strange


I think it may be smart to actually keep him in
We don’t need any hero shooting so he will stay here to take the bullets. Whoever wants the cred can claim their shot EON1
This post concerns me a little, @Will. It just feels a little opportunistic.

Can you spell out your scum read on Brain further? What factual errors and why is that alignment indicative to you? Also, “acting strange” how?
Well he says and analyzes things that just arent there and is pushing my posts (which up until now were not a scumread on brain) into a context where they are
This seems like the type of thing you and sweetandcool would say about my scumgame. You guys have this idea that I push people on anything and everything I can come up with.

So here is where you can list specific examples of who ive done that too this game. And provide the invented reasoning I used.

This should be a fairly easy thing to list off the person and the fabrication I conjured that you expressly think is untrue ill even make the list

Fill in the fabrications and invented reasonings ive used

Bunny:
Ghug:
Will:
Spirit:
Balki:
Chaqa:
Glitter:
Flavius:
Sparta:
Damo:
Yoyo:
Worcej:
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#435 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:14 pm

GlitterBomb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:29 pm
GlitterBomb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:38 am
Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:34 am


I don't have as much interesting data as I would have hoped to share tonight. Interest in the coordinated strategy seems minimal, so I decided to change my efforts to something else.

I think that we should be focusing more attention on the non-posters. Right now, that's damo, Yoyoyozo, and Flav. Is the fact that they haven't posted yet mafia-indicative?

I went back and looked at 25 of damo's games. (I could have done more, but this felt like a big enough sample size.) He's a chronically slow poster on Day 1. Here's a chart of the number of hours after game start before his first post, along with his alignment in each:

damo # hours from game start until first poat
M1028 0 Town
M1015 0 Town
M77.. 0 Town
M51.. 1 Town
M1009 2 Town
M80.. 4 Town
M1031 5 Mafia
M83.. 8 Town
M1023 10 Mafia
M89.. 11 Town
M1026 12 Town
M90.. 12 Town
M81.. 13 Mafia
M79.. 13 Mafia
M87.. 13 Mafia
M1027 13 Town
M82.. 13 Town
M78.. 14 Town
M1014 14 Mafia
M52.. 15 Town
M88.. 16 Town
M84.. 17 Town
M86.. 17 Town
M1025 19 Town
M85.. 25 Town

His delayed first post does not seem to indicate him being mafia. (Of course, I would not consider it town-indicative.)

The other two don't have as large sample sizes to go from, but here's what I dug up:

Yoyo # hours
M1031 0 Town
M24.. 1 Town
M58.. 1 Mafia
M1014 3 Town
M1029 17 Town
M62.. 18 Mafia
M23.. 47 Town

Again, this doesn't really seem to indicate anything to me. I would be jumping all over Yoyo right now... except for the one game as town where Yoyo didn't post anything until pretty close to EOD.

Flav # hours
M89.. 1 Town
M46.. 1 Mafia
M50.. 5 Town
M52.. 6 Town
M90.. 10 Mafia
M51.. 16 Town
M1009 21 Mafia
M1031 26 Town

I see the slightest lean towards Flav posting later as Mafia here. It's not overwhelming evidence, but:

##vote FlaviusAetius

In any case, not posting is not helping town.
I agree! And that’s what I’ve been saying! But apparently you and I are some of the only ones annoyed by it because of how it doesn’t help us. I personally witnessed this in the last game and inactivity caused a lot of issues (and I believe almost all of the super inactives were town).

Thanks for digging this all up, I like the background.

So I ask this… is it better for us to vote for someone who is likely on a track to be mod killed because of not posting the required amount? If we go with what you’re thinking and vote Flavius out for instance, but he ends up town, and he would have been modkilled anyway, we save losing more town all at once?
The more I sit with this, the more I think it’s in the best interest of town.

##VoteFlavius
##vote Glitter

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#436 Post by Chaqa » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:15 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:58 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm
To expand, you voted me because I said I'm taking a N1 gun and shooting someone. Do you honestly think town!Chaqa would take a rose? You should know me better than that
I was voting you for the fake menacing tone the post had. “Look at me im a man im going for a gun; fear me”

It had that vibe to it and it seemed really fake
Probably because that's like the complete opposite vibe of what I was going for lol

I was planning to do a gameshow-like thing where I slowly eliminate people from my shot PoE. Unfortunately no one else has seemed worthy of throwing out of the pool so far, except maybe Flav

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#437 Post by brainbomb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:15 pm

And by invented or conjured I mean reasoning you think is clearly made up that I couldnt possibly beleive as town
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#438 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:17 pm

Yoyoyozo wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:45 pm
##vote Flav
I actually want to play a proper game with brain.
I would have loved for you to actually participate and come up with a better reasoning to actually vote FOR me

This is so ridiculous
The FOUR votes on me;
Spart— down with lurkers!! Heres my fake analysis that proves nothing
Glitter— lurkers shouldnt be killed so early—actually TWIST!!! I vote flav
Damo— Flav talk!! ima ignore yoyo btw
Yoyo— : shrugs : i like brain
???

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#439 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:18 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:15 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:58 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:43 pm
To expand, you voted me because I said I'm taking a N1 gun and shooting someone. Do you honestly think town!Chaqa would take a rose? You should know me better than that
I was voting you for the fake menacing tone the post had. “Look at me im a man im going for a gun; fear me”

It had that vibe to it and it seemed really fake
Probably because that's like the complete opposite vibe of what I was going for lol

I was planning to do a gameshow-like thing where I slowly eliminate people from my shot PoE. Unfortunately no one else has seemed worthy of throwing out of the pool so far, except maybe Flav
WHAT have I done this game so far to warrant this gameshow death o_O

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#440 Post by FlaviusAetius » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:20 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:17 pm
Yoyoyozo wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:45 pm
##vote Flav
I actually want to play a proper game with brain.
I would have loved for you to actually participate and come up with a better reasoning to actually vote FOR me

This is so ridiculous
The FOUR votes on me;
Spart— down with lurkers!! Heres my fake analysis that proves nothing
Glitter— lurkers shouldnt be killed so early—actually TWIST!!! I vote flav
Damo— Flav talk!! ima ignore yoyo btw
Yoyo— : shrugs : i like brain
???
Everything the brain voters are SAYING about brain I just have no idea where they are getting this impression from, either he has RADICALLY changed from page 15 on or people are misinterpreting massively

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