Mafia 91 - Battle for the Sunset Strip - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[GlitterBomb]

VOTE COUNT 1.5

Brainbomb (4) BunnyGo, Ghug, SpiritoftheRadio, Chaqa
FlaviusAetius (1) Spartaculous
SpiritoftheRadio (1) Brainbomb
Chaqa (1) Glitterbomb

Unvoted: Balki Bartokomous

About 16 and a half hours are left in D1.

BRAINBOMB is set to be barred from the Roxy.

##Call GM are both Chaqa votes listed above valid?

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.5

Brainbomb (4) BunnyGo, Ghug, SpiritoftheRadio, Chaqa
FlaviusAetius (1) Spartaculous
SpiritoftheRadio (1) Brainbomb
Chaqa (1) Glitterbomb

Unvoted: Balki Bartokomous

About 16 and a half hours are left in D1.

BRAINBOMB is set to be barred from the Roxy.

##Call GM are both Chaqa votes listed above valid?

Chaqa is voting for Brainbomb.

[GlitterBomb]

Got it, thanks! I swore I saw Chaqa listed twice in your tallies but now it’s gone. That’s why I was asking for clarification.

[Yoyoyozo]

Oh, this started!

[damo666]

Flav is last yo post.

##vote Flav

Brain verbosity implies town.

Think Sparta, Chaqa and Mrs B Pro town.

No great opinion on others.

Monday game starts are difficult for me hence typical lateness joining.

[Vecna]

in all seriousness, this is a real read. I got got last time because you seemed SO town, but like... that's not you this game at all. Not sure if you did that because you were the only scum that game and it rode on you, because you normally fuck around and get scum read regardless of alignment. This doesn't seem like fucking around though, it seems a bit too reactive and it doesn't feel right. The bb I know would let worecj and the others scum reads roll of their back like water. But you're not. You're acting defensive and scum hunting at straws.

I think this comes from town as well

##vote spirit

Also would vote will, or ghug or chaqa as all of those seem like fun kills for day 1

And I understand why people feel that bb acts rattled.

[Vecna]

Poor brain is going to get shot N1

Not if we kill him first.

Ghug really feels like he's uncharacteristically out for blood

[Vecna]

I have eliminated worcej from my list of potential victims tonight.

I say victims because I assume I will hit town.

So you’re just complacently throwing out that you’re going to kill town - but what are you doing to try to avoid that? I’ve seen nothing from you in posts other than saying you’re definitely gonna shoot someone, you somehow seem worcej town and the robot and brain annoy you. Instead of actively trying to engage and determine who the correct folks could be you’re saying that you’re going to have a victim? Open wolfing? While posting the bare minimum?

##vote Chaqa

yeah i also really feel this

[Vecna]

Wondering on Balki, I know when he is mafia he picks a person to make a case against and then tries to sit on that. In M89 it was foxcastle and then he did it again in that beehive game against Eden. So it hasnt escaped me that Balki could be just using his scum playbook vs sparta here.

Still havent seen enough from Balki that tells me he wants to find more townreads and actually build a coalition

and im actually feeling this as well a little bit for different reasons

[Vecna]

Who is townreading ghug?

Who is townreading Bunny?

Who is townreading Spirit?

Wanna get more dialogue

no
maybe
yes?

[Vecna]

Thats gotta be at least 2 mafia in that balki. You maybe included.

But if it means I live to keep playing then sure.

Why do you say there are at least two mafia in that group?

A particularly strange thing to say if you know you are Town.

how is that strange when it was a post with 5 names?

I did find it strange that you didnt include my name after you specifically made 2 mentions of me that seemed rather favorable earlier.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.6

Brainbomb (4) BunnyGo, Ghug, SpiritoftheRadio, Chaqa
FlaviusAetius (2) Spartaculous, Damo666
SpiritoftheRadio (1) Brainbomb
Chaqa (1) Glitterbomb

Unvoted: Balki Bartokomous

Just over 13 hours are left in D1.

BRAINBOMB is still scheduled.

[damo666]

Question for the class.

If you shoot someone and they do not die should you reveal?

[damo666]

Why would anybody not choose N1?

[GlitterBomb]

I'm working on a post; it should be up soon.

I don't have as much interesting data as I would have hoped to share tonight. Interest in the coordinated strategy seems minimal, so I decided to change my efforts to something else.

I think that we should be focusing more attention on the non-posters. Right now, that's damo, Yoyoyozo, and Flav. Is the fact that they haven't posted yet mafia-indicative?

I went back and looked at 25 of damo's games. (I could have done more, but this felt like a big enough sample size.) He's a chronically slow poster on Day 1. Here's a chart of the number of hours after game start before his first post, along with his alignment in each:

damo # hours from game start until first poat
M1028 0 Town
M1015 0 Town
M77.. 0 Town
M51.. 1 Town
M1009 2 Town
M80.. 4 Town
M1031 5 Mafia
M83.. 8 Town
M1023 10 Mafia
M89.. 11 Town
M1026 12 Town
M90.. 12 Town
M81.. 13 Mafia
M79.. 13 Mafia
M87.. 13 Mafia
M1027 13 Town
M82.. 13 Town
M78.. 14 Town
M1014 14 Mafia
M52.. 15 Town
M88.. 16 Town
M84.. 17 Town
M86.. 17 Town
M1025 19 Town
M85.. 25 Town

His delayed first post does not seem to indicate him being mafia. (Of course, I would not consider it town-indicative.)

The other two don't have as large sample sizes to go from, but here's what I dug up:

Yoyo # hours
M1031 0 Town
M24.. 1 Town
M58.. 1 Mafia
M1014 3 Town
M1029 17 Town
M62.. 18 Mafia
M23.. 47 Town

Again, this doesn't really seem to indicate anything to me. I would be jumping all over Yoyo right now... except for the one game as town where Yoyo didn't post anything until pretty close to EOD.

Flav # hours
M89.. 1 Town
M46.. 1 Mafia
M50.. 5 Town
M52.. 6 Town
M90.. 10 Mafia
M51.. 16 Town
M1009 21 Mafia
M1031 26 Town

I see the slightest lean towards Flav posting later as Mafia here. It's not overwhelming evidence, but:

##vote FlaviusAetius

In any case, not posting is not helping town.

I agree! And that’s what I’ve been saying! But apparently you and I are some of the only ones annoyed by it because of how it doesn’t help us. I personally witnessed this in the last game and inactivity caused a lot of issues (and I believe almost all of the super inactives were town).

Thanks for digging this all up, I like the background.

So I ask this… is it better for us to vote for someone who is likely on a track to be mod killed because of not posting the required amount? If we go with what you’re thinking and vote Flavius out for instance, but he ends up town, and he would have been modkilled anyway, we save losing more town all at once?

The more I sit with this, the more I think it’s in the best interest of town.

##VoteFlavius

[Spartaculous]

Why would anybody not choose N1?

If you are town and decide to take a gun, you could make the case that it is better to wait until N2 to shoot, when you have more information and thus are more likely to hit a mafia.

I don't know if I agree with that sentence. But that's an argument for N2.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.7

Brainbomb (4) BunnyGo, Ghug, SpiritoftheRadio, Chaqa
FlaviusAetius (3) Spartaculous, Damo666, Glitterbomb
SpiritoftheRadio (1) Brainbomb

Unvoted: Balki Bartokomous

Eight hours and 25 minutes are left in D1.

BRAINBOMB is still up there.

Balki, Yoyo, Flavius, JustWill, Worcej and Vecna need to vote.
Yoyo and Flavius need to participate.

[Yoyoyozo]

##vote Flav
I actually want to play a proper game with brain.

[Yoyoyozo]

I don't have as much interesting data as I would have hoped to share tonight. Interest in the coordinated strategy seems minimal, so I decided to change my efforts to something else.

I think that we should be focusing more attention on the non-posters. Right now, that's damo, Yoyoyozo, and Flav. Is the fact that they haven't posted yet mafia-indicative?

I went back and looked at 25 of damo's games. (I could have done more, but this felt like a big enough sample size.) He's a chronically slow poster on Day 1. Here's a chart of the number of hours after game start before his first post, along with his alignment in each:

damo # hours from game start until first poat
M1028 0 Town
M1015 0 Town
M77.. 0 Town
M51.. 1 Town
M1009 2 Town
M80.. 4 Town
M1031 5 Mafia
M83.. 8 Town
M1023 10 Mafia
M89.. 11 Town
M1026 12 Town
M90.. 12 Town
M81.. 13 Mafia
M79.. 13 Mafia
M87.. 13 Mafia
M1027 13 Town
M82.. 13 Town
M78.. 14 Town
M1014 14 Mafia
M52.. 15 Town
M88.. 16 Town
M84.. 17 Town
M86.. 17 Town
M1025 19 Town
M85.. 25 Town

His delayed first post does not seem to indicate him being mafia. (Of course, I would not consider it town-indicative.)

The other two don't have as large sample sizes to go from, but here's what I dug up:

Yoyo # hours
M1031 0 Town
M24.. 1 Town
M58.. 1 Mafia
M1014 3 Town
M1029 17 Town
M62.. 18 Mafia
M23.. 47 Town

Again, this doesn't really seem to indicate anything to me. I would be jumping all over Yoyo right now... except for the one game as town where Yoyo didn't post anything until pretty close to EOD.

Flav # hours
M89.. 1 Town
M46.. 1 Mafia
M50.. 5 Town
M52.. 6 Town
M90.. 10 Mafia
M51.. 16 Town
M1009 21 Mafia
M1031 26 Town

I see the slightest lean towards Flav posting later as Mafia here. It's not overwhelming evidence, but:

##vote FlaviusAetius

In any case, not posting is not helping town.

I agree! And that’s what I’ve been saying! But apparently you and I are some of the only ones annoyed by it because of how it doesn’t help us. I personally witnessed this in the last game and inactivity caused a lot of issues (and I believe almost all of the super inactives were town).

Thanks for digging this all up, I like the background.

So I ask this… is it better for us to vote for someone who is likely on a track to be mod killed because of not posting the required amount? If we go with what you’re thinking and vote Flavius out for instance, but he ends up town, and he would have been modkilled anyway, we save losing more town all at once?

The more I sit with this, the more I think it’s in the best interest of town.

##VoteFlavius

Nice to meet you glitter. QQ: how would you say your games with bb are? In the least accusatory way possible I ask this because I’m not familiar with your games, and it helps inform how I consider your interactions.

[Yoyoyozo]

I'm now inclined to breathe life into grudges when I'm town, for whatever that's worth.

Ghug, I love you.