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[ghug]

Flum has two votes for dst and bozo has one and I have one.


If we are so confident in me as town, which I feel like we all agree, then it makes sense to me to align on both. But if we can’t, I will go with me in QB.

QB is the absolute wrong choice for just one.

And Flum,ghug, bozo and I will remove their other votes for QB/DST

If you are town and willing to DK ghug, you should RB Fluminator and worcej, that is the only way it helps if ghug is town from my perspective. worcej should be RBed because he voted himself for FLEX anyway.

Ok, I 100% understand the game theory that Bunny and Ghug are pushing where the kill chooses the RB. The game theory is sound, but only in an abstract sense.

It's leaving out the fact that townies have one piece of information they are 100% certain on. I know I'm town. The roster I suggested that other players are seeming to agree with, I know from my point of view it will get town the win in almost every circumstance. If this goes through, the only way town lose is if either Bunny or Glitter is scum and they're not scumpartners with Ghug. That is a gamble I'm willing to take. And even if that is the case, I still have odds of doc saving the nightkill.

There is no world I would give up that near guarantee to satisfy an abstract game theory argument. I agree if ghug is town he has better odds of catching scum and that's why I initially put up Worcej and Bozo.

I don't believe Bunny or Ghug would actually willingly put themselves on the RB if they had the power to choose. As any alignment (town or scum) it helps to put yourself in the best spot. Them pretending otherwise is not convincing me to RB myself.

Every town knows they are town and has to make their own calculations from their point of view for what's best.

The thing you're missing is that both scum are going to say exactly this.

In the world where I'm town and we're killing me, two townies have been tricked by the scum. Those four have the majority to unilaterally decide all the slots, which also means that within that group of four, the two scum have the power to veto anything on their own, which is why you need someone outside that group of four involved. If everyone in the group of four is allowed to behave selfishly, there's no chance we actually hit both scum.

If two townies really want to kill me, fine. It's moronic, you suck, and I expect a big fat apology after the game, but people are wrong sometimes, it happens. I'm your shot though. There's not room for you to also let you take the secondary shot at the RBs

[bozotheclown]

QB is the absolute wrong choice for just one.

And Flum,ghug, bozo and I will remove their other votes for QB/DST

If you are town and willing to DK ghug, you should RB Fluminator and worcej, that is the only way it helps if ghug is town from my perspective. worcej should be RBed because he voted himself for FLEX anyway.

What about your behavior and lying today and lying to Glitter makes me think you are in any way trustworthy?

Do you have any idea what you've been saying? I'm still happiest voting you at this point and will only vote ghug because Glitter and Flum are onboard with that.

The reason I still suspect you and ghug are the mafia is because you keep accusing me of things like this.

[ghug]

If it's Glitter bozo...this is infuriating.

Glitter must be smarter than this

I really don't think Glitter is scum (though it's fascinating that bozo was so quick to ask me to change my vote when I joked about it), and if she is it's probably too late anyway.

[bozotheclown]

glitter...bozo knows better.

QB is USELESS if we miskill

only DST matters

I am OK with putting her at D/ST.

Why did you need me to point this out?

If ghug is mafia, it doesn't matter.

[GlitterBomb]

This is where my head is at as an unofficial roster:

RB 1 Bunny
RB 2 Bozo
TE Flum
DST Glitter
K Worcej
IR Ghug

Whyyy

What do you mean why? This is my way of agreeing with one of your RBs and putting the other in TE.

[Fluminator]

worcej already has.

Flum has two votes for dst and bozo has one and I have one.


If we are so confident in me as town, which I feel like we all agree, then it makes sense to me to align on both. But if we can’t, I will go with me in QB.

I am not sure with Fluminator and worcej not here. Going for QB is safer, in my opinion.

I'm here and checking somewhat regularly. Just trying to work so I'm not constantly refreshing. If Bunny prefers Glitter as Doc I can agree with that.

[BunnyGo]

I am OK with putting her at D/ST.

Why did you need me to point this out?

If ghug is mafia, it doesn't matter.

See...the lack of doubt, yet again.

Scummy!

[ghug]

This is where my head is at as an unofficial roster:

RB 1 Bunny
RB 2 Bozo
TE Flum
DST Glitter
K Worcej
IR Ghug

Whyyy

What do you mean why? This is my way of agreeing with one of your RBs and putting the other in TE.

If I'm town and I die, the only way we don't lose overnight is if Mafia can't kill someone. Unless we get lucky with a docsave, we need to put both scum in RB to make that happen. The TE just needs to be someone; it doesn't matter who.

[BunnyGo]

This is where my head is at as an unofficial roster:

RB 1 Bunny
RB 2 Bozo
TE Flum
DST Glitter
K Worcej
IR Ghug

Whyyy

What do you mean why? This is my way of agreeing with one of your RBs and putting the other in TE.

You realize TE =/= RB?

RB prevents scum from executing a night kill.

If we put both scum there, we have a quiet night and a chance to play another last day.

[bozotheclown]

If it's Glitter bozo...this is infuriating.

Glitter must be smarter than this

I really don't think Glitter is scum (though it's fascinating that bozo was so quick to ask me to change my vote when I joked about it), and if she is it's probably too late anyway.

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

[BunnyGo]

Flum has two votes for dst and bozo has one and I have one.


If we are so confident in me as town, which I feel like we all agree, then it makes sense to me to align on both. But if we can’t, I will go with me in QB.

I am not sure with Fluminator and worcej not here. Going for QB is safer, in my opinion.

I'm here and checking somewhat regularly. Just trying to work so I'm not constantly refreshing. If Bunny prefers Glitter as Doc I can agree with that.

Just don't vote for anyone else for DST/QB/FLEX...cool?

[BunnyGo]

If it's Glitter bozo...this is infuriating.

Glitter must be smarter than this

I really don't think Glitter is scum (though it's fascinating that bozo was so quick to ask me to change my vote when I joked about it), and if she is it's probably too late anyway.

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

Do you scumread me? Does ANYONE?

[ghug]

If it's Glitter bozo...this is infuriating.

Glitter must be smarter than this

I really don't think Glitter is scum (though it's fascinating that bozo was so quick to ask me to change my vote when I joked about it), and if she is it's probably too late anyway.

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

That still leaves one of you and Flum outside of RB.

[BunnyGo]

I really don't think Glitter is scum (though it's fascinating that bozo was so quick to ask me to change my vote when I joked about it), and if she is it's probably too late anyway.

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

Do you scumread me? Does ANYONE?

Unlike the game I got a literal free shot with no consequences at sweet, this one has consequences.

You're putting the game on me to decide here. That's the bet. I get to ponder for 5 minutes and place my final guess of the scumteam and you guys RB them.

[BunnyGo]

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

Do you scumread me? Does ANYONE?

Unlike the game I got a literal free shot with no consequences at sweet, this one has consequences.

You're putting the game on me to decide here. That's the bet. I get to ponder for 5 minutes and place my final guess of the scumteam and you guys RB them.

Because voting someone people don't scumread here is NOT free...it's gambling the whole game on them trying to guess the exact team.

[ghug]

Look, I'm fucking consenting to die here. We have established there is a gamewinning strategy for town if we kill scum. If you believe I'm scum, what harm is there in compromising on my RB votes?

[bozotheclown]

I really don't think Glitter is scum (though it's fascinating that bozo was so quick to ask me to change my vote when I joked about it), and if she is it's probably too late anyway.

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

That still leaves one of you and Flum outside of RB.

Yes, but I am town and that is the best coverage from my perspective. That is also why I have been willing to be RB, to try to show the other town that I am town.

[BunnyGo]

Look, I'm fucking consenting to die here. We have established there is a gamewinning strategy for town if we kill scum. If you believe I'm scum, what harm is there in compromising on my RB votes?

Agreed.

And I agree enough and you've been protesting so much (bozo) that if your stupid scummy suggestion to kill me despite not scum reading me is your suggestion, you've talked yourself into my final guess of a scumteam.

[bozotheclown]

Look, I'm fucking consenting to die here. We have established there is a gamewinning strategy for town if we kill scum. If you believe I'm scum, what harm is there in compromising on my RB votes?

I said I am OK with it, but we still lose if you are town because I am town.

[BunnyGo]

OK, so if GlitterBomb is town, and you and BunnyGo are really town, and you are willing to be the DK to prove you are town, then you, BunnyGo, GlitterBomb, and I can put Fluminator and worcej at RB. I know this make me looks suspicious for suggesting it, which is why I haven't previously.

That still leaves one of you and Flum outside of RB.

Yes, but I am town and that is the best coverage from my perspective. That is also why I have been willing to be RB, to try to show the other town that I am town.

I don't believe you're town...

You've done almost nothing all game that's your normal towngame.

You've been misleading Glitter for most of the last 12 hours after disappearing for the first 24 and then declaring "NO TIME!!!"

You put in a scummy roster and claimed it was a ninja

nothing has been trustworthy