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[BunnyGo]

Here! Since everyone is posting shitty first rosters

##Official Roster number 1

QB Glitter
RB 1 Bunny
RB 2 ghug
TE Flum
IR bozo
K worcej

Why no doctor?

I want NOBODY else to get ANY doctor votes

[ghug]

We don't need worcej to RB my picks, bozo, and he said he was coming back anyway.

[bozotheclown]

We don't need worcej to RB my picks, bozo, and he said he was coming back anyway.

We can't afford a tie at RB, which is what I suspect you are going for. As I said, RBing me and Fluminator does nothing to help town if you are town.

[ghug]

Ok, I 100% understand the game theory that Bunny and Ghug are pushing where the kill chooses the RB. The game theory is sound, but only in an abstract sense.

It's leaving out the fact that townies have one piece of information they are 100% certain on. I know I'm town. The roster I suggested that other players are seeming to agree with, I know from my point of view it will get town the win in almost every circumstance. If this goes through, the only way town lose is if either Bunny or Glitter is scum and they're not scumpartners with Ghug. That is a gamble I'm willing to take. And even if that is the case, I still have odds of doc saving the nightkill.

There is no world I would give up that near guarantee to satisfy an abstract game theory argument. I agree if ghug is town he has better odds of catching scum and that's why I initially put up Worcej and Bozo.

I don't believe Bunny or Ghug would actually willingly put themselves on the RB if they had the power to choose. As any alignment (town or scum) it helps to put yourself in the best spot. Them pretending otherwise is not convincing me to RB myself.

Every town knows they are town and has to make their own calculations from their point of view for what's best.

I entered the roster you, GlitterBomb, and I agreed on, and worcej has entered a roster with ghug at I/R. As long as you and GlitterBomb are still OK with the roster, ghug and BunnyGo would have to match what worcej entered at other positions to force any ties (if worcej does not come back online).

Look, Glitter, there's not actually any intent here to follow through on my RB picks.

There's a path to winning even if town dies today, but not if we let the same people deciding who dies decide who's roleblocked.

[ghug]

We don't need worcej to RB my picks, bozo, and he said he was coming back anyway.

We can't afford a tie at RB, which is what I suspect you are going for. As I said, RBing me and Fluminator does nothing to help town if you are town.

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

[bozotheclown]

Ok, I 100% understand the game theory that Bunny and Ghug are pushing where the kill chooses the RB. The game theory is sound, but only in an abstract sense.

It's leaving out the fact that townies have one piece of information they are 100% certain on. I know I'm town. The roster I suggested that other players are seeming to agree with, I know from my point of view it will get town the win in almost every circumstance. If this goes through, the only way town lose is if either Bunny or Glitter is scum and they're not scumpartners with Ghug. That is a gamble I'm willing to take. And even if that is the case, I still have odds of doc saving the nightkill.

There is no world I would give up that near guarantee to satisfy an abstract game theory argument. I agree if ghug is town he has better odds of catching scum and that's why I initially put up Worcej and Bozo.

I don't believe Bunny or Ghug would actually willingly put themselves on the RB if they had the power to choose. As any alignment (town or scum) it helps to put yourself in the best spot. Them pretending otherwise is not convincing me to RB myself.

Every town knows they are town and has to make their own calculations from their point of view for what's best.

I entered the roster you, GlitterBomb, and I agreed on, and worcej has entered a roster with ghug at I/R. As long as you and GlitterBomb are still OK with the roster, ghug and BunnyGo would have to match what worcej entered at other positions to force any ties (if worcej does not come back online).

Look, Glitter, there's not actually any intent here to follow through on my RB picks.

There's a path to winning even if town dies today, but not if we let the same people deciding who dies decide who's roleblocked.

As I said, ghug is trying to make GlitterBomb suspicious of me and Fluminator.

I agreed to be RBed to do what I could to alleviate the suspicion of other town. At the time, BunnyGo and ghug were suspecting me and worcej (as well as Fluminator), but now they both are pushing me and Fluminator as mafia because it fits what they are trying to do.

[ghug]

I entered the roster you, GlitterBomb, and I agreed on, and worcej has entered a roster with ghug at I/R. As long as you and GlitterBomb are still OK with the roster, ghug and BunnyGo would have to match what worcej entered at other positions to force any ties (if worcej does not come back online).

Look, Glitter, there's not actually any intent here to follow through on my RB picks.

There's a path to winning even if town dies today, but not if we let the same people deciding who dies decide who's roleblocked.

As I said, ghug is trying to make GlitterBomb suspicious of me and Fluminator.

I agreed to be RBed to do what I could to alleviate the suspicion of other town. At the time, BunnyGo and ghug were suspecting me and worcej (as well as Fluminator), but now they both are pushing me and Fluminator as mafia because it fits what they are trying to do.

This isn't a rebuttal of anything I'm saying.

[bozotheclown]

We don't need worcej to RB my picks, bozo, and he said he was coming back anyway.

We can't afford a tie at RB, which is what I suspect you are going for. As I said, RBing me and Fluminator does nothing to help town if you are town.

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

[ghug]

We can't afford a tie at RB, which is what I suspect you are going for. As I said, RBing me and Fluminator does nothing to help town if you are town.

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

If I'm scum and we put five votes on my RB picks right now, the only way we tie at any position is if:
1. Worcej is town
2. Worcej doesn't come back
3. My teammate and I both move our votes at the final moment to cause a tie

If those three things happen, then I die and you know who my teammate is, so town still wins.

[BunnyGo]

We can't afford a tie at RB, which is what I suspect you are going for. As I said, RBing me and Fluminator does nothing to help town if you are town.

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

This is not a rebuttal of anything we've been saying; and Flum has acknowledged that my plan works too

This is what scum!bozo does when he feels caught by mechs

[GlitterBomb]

We can't afford a tie at RB, which is what I suspect you are going for. As I said, RBing me and Fluminator does nothing to help town if you are town.

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

And we are currently looking locked to tie in several. Which makes me super nervous.

[bozotheclown]

Look, Glitter, there's not actually any intent here to follow through on my RB picks.

There's a path to winning even if town dies today, but not if we let the same people deciding who dies decide who's roleblocked.

As I said, ghug is trying to make GlitterBomb suspicious of me and Fluminator.

I agreed to be RBed to do what I could to alleviate the suspicion of other town. At the time, BunnyGo and ghug were suspecting me and worcej (as well as Fluminator), but now they both are pushing me and Fluminator as mafia because it fits what they are trying to do.

This isn't a rebuttal of anything I'm saying.

That only applies if you are town and have picked the 2 mafia to RB. I don't think you are town, but if you are, you have not picked the 2 mafia to RB.

I was pointing out that you re trying to use Fluminator not wanting to RB himself to make GlitterBomb suspicious of me and Fluminator being mafia, which I think is your scum motivation.

[BunnyGo]

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

And we are currently looking locked to tie in several. Which makes me super nervous.

Will you please commit to RB the IR's choices (whomever it is) so we can move on?

[bozotheclown]

We can if I'm scum and you kill me, and the only reason I'd be going for a tie at RB is if I'm scum. My teammate would have to out with me to cause a tie if five of us voted for my RB picks.

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

And we are currently looking locked to tie in several. Which makes me super nervous.

If you and Fluminator enter the same roster I did, we should be OK with ties.

[Fluminator]

Ok, I 100% understand the game theory that Bunny and Ghug are pushing where the kill chooses the RB. The game theory is sound, but only in an abstract sense.

It's leaving out the fact that townies have one piece of information they are 100% certain on. I know I'm town. The roster I suggested that other players are seeming to agree with, I know from my point of view it will get town the win in almost every circumstance. If this goes through, the only way town lose is if either Bunny or Glitter is scum and they're not scumpartners with Ghug. That is a gamble I'm willing to take. And even if that is the case, I still have odds of doc saving the nightkill.

There is no world I would give up that near guarantee to satisfy an abstract game theory argument. I agree if ghug is town he has better odds of catching scum and that's why I initially put up Worcej and Bozo.

I don't believe Bunny or Ghug would actually willingly put themselves on the RB if they had the power to choose. As any alignment (town or scum) it helps to put yourself in the best spot. Them pretending otherwise is not convincing me to RB myself.

Every town knows they are town and has to make their own calculations from their point of view for what's best.

The thing you're missing is that both scum are going to say exactly this.

In the world where I'm town and we're killing me, two townies have been tricked by the scum. Those four have the majority to unilaterally decide all the slots, which also means that within that group of four, the two scum have the power to veto anything on their own, which is why you need someone outside that group of four involved. If everyone in the group of four is allowed to behave selfishly, there's no chance we actually hit both scum.

If two townies really want to kill me, fine. It's moronic, you suck, and I expect a big fat apology after the game, but people are wrong sometimes, it happens. I'm your shot though. There's not room for you to also let you take the secondary shot at the RBs

That didn't really address anything I said. You just talked about abstract game theory again.

[GlitterBomb]

Look, Glitter, there's not actually any intent here to follow through on my RB picks.

There's a path to winning even if town dies today, but not if we let the same people deciding who dies decide who's roleblocked.

As I said, ghug is trying to make GlitterBomb suspicious of me and Fluminator.

I agreed to be RBed to do what I could to alleviate the suspicion of other town. At the time, BunnyGo and ghug were suspecting me and worcej (as well as Fluminator), but now they both are pushing me and Fluminator as mafia because it fits what they are trying to do.

This isn't a rebuttal of anything I'm saying.

Is there not a way to compromise on this? At the rate we are going we may end up in several ties and in a horrible spot. I don’t think I’ve seen a roster from Flum or Ghug yet. Will post mine when I see those.

[Fluminator]

##official roster:
QB GlitterBomb
RB1 worcej
RB2 bozo
TE BunnyGo
D/ST Fluminator
I/R ghug

I think I know where Bozo, Ghug, and Bunny all stand. If Glitter or Worcej want different Roleblocks I still have another roster I can post.

[bozotheclown]

[quote=bozotheclown post_id=433848 time=1727204047 user_id=222


If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

And we are currently looking locked to tie in several. Which makes me super nervous.

Will you please commit to RB the IR's choices (whomever it is) so we can move on?
[/quote]

This is a BunnyGo scum tactic to pressure town to making the choice he wants.

[BunnyGo]

As I said, ghug is trying to make GlitterBomb suspicious of me and Fluminator.

I agreed to be RBed to do what I could to alleviate the suspicion of other town. At the time, BunnyGo and ghug were suspecting me and worcej (as well as Fluminator), but now they both are pushing me and Fluminator as mafia because it fits what they are trying to do.

This isn't a rebuttal of anything I'm saying.

Is there not a way to compromise on this? At the rate we are going we may end up in several ties and in a horrible spot. I don’t think I’ve seen a roster from Flum or Ghug yet. Will post mine when I see those.

Will you commit to RB the IR's choices? If so, we're set and can move on

[bozotheclown]

If you are mafia and we DK you, town should win with Fluminator's plan, as long as we do not tie at any position.

And we are currently looking locked to tie in several. Which makes me super nervous.

Will you please commit to RB the IR's choices (whomever it is) so we can move on?

This is a BunnyGo scum tactic to pressure town to making the choice he wants.

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