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[ghug]

For now I assume so.

I would be worried if he hadn't made his 2nd post.

I am just assuming unusually busy?

IMO this post clears ghug.

How? You’re more than capable to open wolf

How does this constitute me open wolfing?

[BunnyGo]

Also @bozo:

Do you agree with the following statement:

WE NEED TO LET OUR I/R CHOOSE THE RBs

This is to protect against us choosing town for I/R, they have the best chance of getting it correct, and us not letting scum control the game.

If we're getting scum in the I/R, then we can afford to let them mess around with the choice.

Agree, disagree and be DETAILED IN YOUR RESPONSE!

[BunnyGo]

Also @bozo:

Do you agree with the following statement:

WE NEED TO LET OUR I/R CHOOSE THE RBs

This is to protect against us choosing town for I/R, they have the best chance of getting it correct, and us not letting scum control the game.

If we're getting scum in the I/R, then we can afford to let them mess around with the choice.

Agree, disagree and be DETAILED IN YOUR RESPONSE!

This is open to everyone, but the fact bozo is dodging this and disagreeing with this is worrying

[GlitterBomb]

I would still go with this:

unofficial roster:
QB GlitterBomb
RB1 worcej
RB2 bozo
TE BunnyGo
D/ST Fluminator
I/R ghug

This is what I’m circling around too. I can support this.

Why do YOU not want to be QB/DST combo?

Don't you think that's what guarantees the best odds of no scum powers?

I’m happy to be both, as I previously stated last night. But I also want to be mindful now more than ever of consensus and developing a plan.

[BunnyGo]

This is what I’m circling around too. I can support this.

Why do YOU not want to be QB/DST combo?

Don't you think that's what guarantees the best odds of no scum powers?

I’m happy to be both, as I previously stated last night. But I also want to be mindful now more than ever of consensus and developing a plan.

What do you make of bozo saying he thinks you're town, that we can't risk a scum PR, but he wants to risk gambling on someone else being the QB?

[BunnyGo]

Current preliminary roster:

QB Glitter (by half, left blank by other half...they should vote for a WR)
RB 1 Will do what the IR says
RB 2 Will do what the IR says
TE Remaining player
DST Glitter (by half, left blank by other half...they should vote for a WR)
IR worcej (because of his roster in particular)
K Bunny

[BunnyGo]

Current preliminary roster:

QB Glitter (by half, left blank by other half)
RB 1 Will do what the IR says
RB 2 Will do what the IR says
TE Remaining player
DST Glitter (by half, left blank by other half)
IR worcej (because of his roster in particular)
K Bunny

Correction...no need to vote for a WR

[ghug]

Usually he messed up and slips by now. I don't think he's that good at scum tbh.

I think he's very good at just not being that interesting when he's scum. He's not great at leading a team, but he doesn't get himself caught.

IDK what I have done this game to qualify myself as not interesting or not being caught.

If I'm scum, then you'd have to agree to the following:

• I bussed two teammates when I didn't have to.
• I over-provided helpful information regarding roles and the setup.
• I intentionally placed myself in a bad role slot (TE) versus trying to leverage for a PR slot.

My frustration and why I scum you is your case at me for days was "meh, not towny enough" and now that the games on the line, you're using twisting content from sweet to re-justify the push on me.

• Kak kind of did have to be bussed. He was dead weight, basically certain to go, and sweet did defend him. I doubt any of the rest of the team joined him in that. Sweet was a little more up in the air but you also hadn't been vocally scumreading him before the Bunny claim, and he came out of that as the presumptive candidate.

• Mechanics have long been a safe refuge of scum looking to contribute.

• Volunteering to take a bad slot is a great way to fly under the radar.

• I solve games by townreading, especially in the early days, and I never found anything in you to townread. I usually do.

• You think the purpose of my sweet quotes was justifying a case on you?

[BunnyGo]

bozo's continued obtuseness is really mindboggling here

[BunnyGo]

bozo's continued obtuseness is really mindboggling here

So much so, I don't think I can ascribe scum reasoning to it...

I'm pretty sure worcej is correct at the moment by POE,

I'm pretty sure ghug is wrong; in part because I recently played against a ghug-worcej pair that had deadweight early and this was not how they played

[ghug]

With what Fluminator pointed out, I think ghug and BunnyGo look more suspect for voting together for worcej, then voting together for Fluminator.

If only one of ghug and BunnyGo are mafia, they have the other one fooled. If they are both town, then 2 of Fluminator, GlitterBomb, and worcej have me fooled.

The only concern I have with Fluminator's plan is that it wins the game for mafia if the mafia team is BunnyGo/Fluminator, but I think the fact that ghug is not concerned with that possibility points to ghug being mafia.

I do not understand why everyone is scumreading Bunny after he basically cleared himself yesterday with the sweet catch. That's fully within the "mafia could technically do this but it's so unlikely that I'd just give them the win if they actually pulled it off" territory.

[BunnyGo]

With what Fluminator pointed out, I think ghug and BunnyGo look more suspect for voting together for worcej, then voting together for Fluminator.

If only one of ghug and BunnyGo are mafia, they have the other one fooled. If they are both town, then 2 of Fluminator, GlitterBomb, and worcej have me fooled.

The only concern I have with Fluminator's plan is that it wins the game for mafia if the mafia team is BunnyGo/Fluminator, but I think the fact that ghug is not concerned with that possibility points to ghug being mafia.

I do not understand why everyone is scumreading Bunny after he basically cleared himself yesterday with the sweet catch. That's fully within the "mafia could technically do this but it's so unlikely that I'd just give them the win if they actually pulled it off" territory.

bozo claims that sweet was caught anyways...gives 0 credit to Bunny for putting nail in it.

0 credit to Bunny for pushing kaka day 1, or day 3.

bozo be clown.

The rest...I dunno...but SUPERBUNNY (TM) is a hero to all town whether they appreciate him or not...

[ghug]

That's the team you think or one of them is Mafia?

I think you have Colby wrong.

I get the accusation here: damo lies about the shot, scum Colby scumslips by assuming the correct NK, consequently Colby is scum.

This is very plausible, but I don't believe it.

Instead, Town Colby still is stuck on damo shooting Will and rdr as NK. Because that is what was strongly touted (particularly by me), in the thread for hours before damo "corrected" it.

What makes this version more compelling is all of the Town slips you have pointed out this game.

Like Colby could be making a concerted effort of scum theater, but I think it is too much to assume that.

I also find damo's rapidfire conclusion to be very convenient to him as scum damo.

Would sweet accurately name the one error here?

Would he really fight so hard for a town and throw his fellow mafia teammates under the bus like that?

It seems you two have figured out why I quoted this one.

[BunnyGo]

Time to watch Terminator 2 with my sick 10 year old...see you nerds later. Stop fucking up.

Let the IR choose the RBs

Anything else is a grave error.

[ghug]

If we go into the night scum I/R, 2 RB, Doc, TE, and QB, then the following situation:
If a scum kill happens, the 2 RB players become confirmed town.

We also coordinate doc to save one and watcher to watch the other.
If anything other than a RB player is killed we have two confirmed town who can indefinitely protect each other. If the watched RB player is killed, the Watcher can claim who visited. If would then be a 1 v 1 between the watcher and who they claim visited so we'd have the other 2 players become confirmed town who can make each other immune.

So for it to not be auto, the final scum has to nokill.
That puts us into 5 players and we have another free miskill and scum is just in a bad situation and would likely have to outlive a couple extra miskills.

UnOfficial Roster

1 QB 1 Glitter
2 RB 1 Worcej
3 RB 2 Bozo
6 TE Flum
8 D/ST Bunny
10 I/R Ghug

I will feel bad if I'm wrong, and I'll sheep Ghug's reads if he's town for the Roleblock on Worcej and Bozo.

I don't think it's Bunny. I'm okay losing to him if he's scum at this point.
Glitter makes some sense to me as Ghug's partner, but less likely otherwise. Maybe I read too much into the notes, but I have never seen a scum put the effort into creating fake notes like that. If Ghug is not scum I feel safe putting her not as a RB

If ghug is town he seems pretty confident on Worcej and I could see myself being buddied by him so I'll sheep potential townghug.
Bozo still has that bizarre tie too.

Ghug has too many small stuff added up for me.
I think his accidental tie on day 2 wasn't fluke when he knew Damo was going to sheep him when he did it.

I think his push on me instead of Kak was scum motivated and he seemed very annoyed Sweet wasn't joining which makes sense if they're buddies. Colby being town makes me feel a lot better about ghug being scum too there.

I don't like how quickly he bought the Bunny reaction test that Sweet was scum after defending sweet, and I think town ghug would have played along more and pushed for reactions. After the reaction test was revealed ghug started defending Sweet again.

The biggest red flag for ghug being scum is he did vote Kak day 1. But scum Sweet came on and tied the vote to save kak so ghug wasn't needed to jump off. But that's the only meaningful push on scum he's made so far and it was day 1.

So if we went with your roster and ghug is mafia, and GlitterBomb is assigned to watch me and BunnyGo is assigned to protect worcej:
1. If mafia NK anyone except me and worcej, we are confirmed town and use the D/ST TE combination to stay safe.
2. If mafia NK worcej, BunnyGo is confirmed mafia.
3. If mafia NK me, GlitterBomb sees the mafia.

I think this works.

The issue with 3 is that a mafia QB would claim to watch someone else perform the NK, but we may still be able to resolve it at 3-1 and one town clear D6. Also, I think GlitterBomb is town.

None of this matters if you kill me.

[BunnyGo]

Would sweet accurately name the one error here?

Would he really fight so hard for a town and throw his fellow mafia teammates under the bus like that?

It seems you two have figured out why I quoted this one.

He has had a "sense of humour" and trying to be too clever by half the other times he was scum.

[ghug]

I would still go with this:

unofficial roster:
QB GlitterBomb
RB1 worcej
RB2 bozo
TE BunnyGo
D/ST Fluminator
I/R ghug

This is what I’m circling around too. I can support this.

You were townreading me yesterday. I've refuted worcej's numbers. What else turned you around on me?

[BunnyGo]

@glitter, bozo, flum: why do you townread worcej?

[ghug]

So if we went with your roster and ghug is mafia, and GlitterBomb is assigned to watch me and BunnyGo is assigned to protect worcej:
1. If mafia NK anyone except me and worcej, we are confirmed town and use the D/ST TE combination to stay safe.
2. If mafia NK worcej, BunnyGo is confirmed mafia.
3. If mafia NK me, GlitterBomb sees the mafia.

I think this works.

The issue with 3 is that a mafia QB would claim to watch someone else perform the NK, but we may still be able to resolve it at 3-1 and one town clear D6. Also, I think GlitterBomb is town.

So let's BANK on that...

Give her the QB/DST

Get a scum in IR

Failing that, try to put 2 in RB

If we only get 1 in RB...get the other in TE...

And try to win!

If multiple townies think it's me and Bunny, I think glitter needs to be flex.

[GlitterBomb]

Why do YOU not want to be QB/DST combo?

Don't you think that's what guarantees the best odds of no scum powers?

I’m happy to be both, as I previously stated last night. But I also want to be mindful now more than ever of consensus and developing a plan.

What do you make of bozo saying he thinks you're town, that we can't risk a scum PR, but he wants to risk gambling on someone else being the QB?

What I make if it is that he also townreads Flum. And the thought process behind this approach and the different ways it could go - it seems legit to me.