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[Fluminator]

Flum was just being mean to me because he didn’t feel like he deserved to be caught like that?

That’s not nice Flum.

That’s a nice case ghug put together there, your honor. ##vote Flum

Ghug just posted random posts, I can't find a case. Where is it?

[Fluminator]

Flum was just being mean to me because he didn’t feel like he deserved to be caught like that?

That’s not nice Flum.

That’s a nice case ghug put together there, your honor. ##vote Flum

Perhaps it’s the grog of EST and a shitty nights sleep, but what is the case here? I just see a spam of sweet’s posts and him implying he’s cleared somehow due to interactions with him and sweet?

Lol thank you worcej.
So it's not just me who's confused

[Fluminator]

If it does end up being me killed, I get to decide Roleblocks then right Bunny?

[BunnyGo]

If it does end up being me killed, I get to decide Roleblocks then right Bunny?

That’s my preference. Bozo says I’m not doing anything though…

[BunnyGo]

If it does end up being me killed, I get to decide Roleblocks then right Bunny?

Although with worcej posting that roster i think I may need that he be in the IR/RB group so he doesn’t get FLEX and win automatically

[bozotheclown]

I still think BunnyGo/ghug is most likely. They both came out scum reading me N4 for poor reasons after I helped push the sweetandcool DK through without ever mentioning why I would be bussing sweetandcool.

I agree - the VCA also supports this pair the strongest likelihood of being scum imo.

I also agree with this. I’ve spent so much time reviewing it and it’s great. Very insightful. I’m a bit wary because Bunny is pushing me so hard and while grateful, it makes me feel like it’s because I’m doubted or viewed as not capable of doing it right since I’ve been involved with the two rushed EOD votes. But I’m capable and able to do my best! I’m wondering why we wouldn’t want to have one person in both roles (dst and qb) so they can have the most info possible. I feel like I’ve been pretty well town read by now and I am up for the challenge of finally not fucking something up with this game. But will go with consensus of what majority thinks is best.

I think post shows that it is better to have different players at D/ST and QB:

If we get one scum here the other loses. I did a setup analysis and there's basically no way the last scum isn't caught if we organize our PRs and RB correctly

I don't see how that works, at 3-1 or 2-1, it is still necessary to figure out who is mafia.

If we go into the night scum I/R, 2 RB, Doc, TE, and QB, then the following situation:
If a scum kill happens, the 2 RB players become confirmed town.

We also coordinate doc to save one and watcher to watch the other.
If anything other than a RB player is killed we have two confirmed town who can indefinitely protect each other. If the watched RB player is killed, the Watcher can claim who visited. If would then be a 1 v 1 between the watcher and who they claim visited so we'd have the other 2 players become confirmed town who can make each other immune.

So for it to not be auto, the final scum has to nokill.
That puts us into 5 players and we have another free miskill and scum is just in a bad situation and would likely have to outlive a couple extra miskills.

[bozotheclown]

UnOfficial Roster

1 QB 1 Glitter
2 RB 1 Worcej
3 RB 2 Bozo
6 TE Flum
8 D/ST Bunny
10 I/R Ghug

I will feel bad if I'm wrong, and I'll sheep Ghug's reads if he's town for the Roleblock on Worcej and Bozo.

I don't think it's Bunny. I'm okay losing to him if he's scum at this point.
Glitter makes some sense to me as Ghug's partner, but less likely otherwise. Maybe I read too much into the notes, but I have never seen a scum put the effort into creating fake notes like that. If Ghug is not scum I feel safe putting her not as a RB

If ghug is town he seems pretty confident on Worcej and I could see myself being buddied by him so I'll sheep potential townghug.
Bozo still has that bizarre tie too.

Ghug has too many small stuff added up for me.
I think his accidental tie on day 2 wasn't fluke when he knew Damo was going to sheep him when he did it.

I think his push on me instead of Kak was scum motivated and he seemed very annoyed Sweet wasn't joining which makes sense if they're buddies. Colby being town makes me feel a lot better about ghug being scum too there.

I don't like how quickly he bought the Bunny reaction test that Sweet was scum after defending sweet, and I think town ghug would have played along more and pushed for reactions. After the reaction test was revealed ghug started defending Sweet again.

The biggest red flag for ghug being scum is he did vote Kak day 1. But scum Sweet came on and tied the vote to save kak so ghug wasn't needed to jump off. But that's the only meaningful push on scum he's made so far and it was day 1.

I am OK with with this, although I would put you at D/ST. It seems GlitterBomb and worcej also suspect BunnyGo and would probably be OK with you at D/ST over him.

[bozotheclown]

If we get one scum here the other loses. I did a setup analysis and there's basically no way the last scum isn't caught if we organize our PRs and RB correctly

I don't see how that works, at 3-1 or 2-1, it is still necessary to figure out who is mafia.

If we go into the night scum I/R, 2 RB, Doc, TE, and QB, then the following situation:
If a scum kill happens, the 2 RB players become confirmed town.

We also coordinate doc to save one and watcher to watch the other.
If anything other than a RB player is killed we have two confirmed town who can indefinitely protect each other. If the watched RB player is killed, the Watcher can claim who visited. If would then be a 1 v 1 between the watcher and who they claim visited so we'd have the other 2 players become confirmed town who can make each other immune.

So for it to not be auto, the final scum has to nokill.
That puts us into 5 players and we have another free miskill and scum is just in a bad situation and would likely have to outlive a couple extra miskills.

UnOfficial Roster

1 QB 1 Glitter
2 RB 1 Worcej
3 RB 2 Bozo
6 TE Flum
8 D/ST Bunny
10 I/R Ghug

I will feel bad if I'm wrong, and I'll sheep Ghug's reads if he's town for the Roleblock on Worcej and Bozo.

I don't think it's Bunny. I'm okay losing to him if he's scum at this point.
Glitter makes some sense to me as Ghug's partner, but less likely otherwise. Maybe I read too much into the notes, but I have never seen a scum put the effort into creating fake notes like that. If Ghug is not scum I feel safe putting her not as a RB

If ghug is town he seems pretty confident on Worcej and I could see myself being buddied by him so I'll sheep potential townghug.
Bozo still has that bizarre tie too.

Ghug has too many small stuff added up for me.
I think his accidental tie on day 2 wasn't fluke when he knew Damo was going to sheep him when he did it.

I think his push on me instead of Kak was scum motivated and he seemed very annoyed Sweet wasn't joining which makes sense if they're buddies. Colby being town makes me feel a lot better about ghug being scum too there.

I don't like how quickly he bought the Bunny reaction test that Sweet was scum after defending sweet, and I think town ghug would have played along more and pushed for reactions. After the reaction test was revealed ghug started defending Sweet again.

The biggest red flag for ghug being scum is he did vote Kak day 1. But scum Sweet came on and tied the vote to save kak so ghug wasn't needed to jump off. But that's the only meaningful push on scum he's made so far and it was day 1.

So if we went with your roster and ghug is mafia, and GlitterBomb is assigned to watch me and BunnyGo is assigned to protect worcej:
1. If mafia NK anyone except me and worcej, we are confirmed town and use the D/ST TE combination to stay safe.
2. If mafia NK worcej, BunnyGo is confirmed mafia.
3. If mafia NK me, GlitterBomb sees the mafia.

I think this works.

[bozotheclown]

I would still go with this:

unofficial roster:
QB GlitterBomb
RB1 worcej
RB2 bozo
TE BunnyGo
D/ST Fluminator
I/R ghug

[BunnyGo]

I agree - the VCA also supports this pair the strongest likelihood of being scum imo.

I also agree with this. I’ve spent so much time reviewing it and it’s great. Very insightful. I’m a bit wary because Bunny is pushing me so hard and while grateful, it makes me feel like it’s because I’m doubted or viewed as not capable of doing it right since I’ve been involved with the two rushed EOD votes. But I’m capable and able to do my best! I’m wondering why we wouldn’t want to have one person in both roles (dst and qb) so they can have the most info possible. I feel like I’ve been pretty well town read by now and I am up for the challenge of finally not fucking something up with this game. But will go with consensus of what majority thinks is best.

I think post shows that it is better to have different players at D/ST and QB:

I don't see how that works, at 3-1 or 2-1, it is still necessary to figure out who is mafia.

If we go into the night scum I/R, 2 RB, Doc, TE, and QB, then the following situation:
If a scum kill happens, the 2 RB players become confirmed town.

We also coordinate doc to save one and watcher to watch the other.
If anything other than a RB player is killed we have two confirmed town who can indefinitely protect each other. If the watched RB player is killed, the Watcher can claim who visited. If would then be a 1 v 1 between the watcher and who they claim visited so we'd have the other 2 players become confirmed town who can make each other immune.

So for it to not be auto, the final scum has to nokill.
That puts us into 5 players and we have another free miskill and scum is just in a bad situation and would likely have to outlive a couple extra miskills.

And what doesn't work there if THE DOC WATCHES ONE AND SAVES THE OTHER AS A SINGLE PLAYER SO GUARANTEED THE WATHER DOESN"T DIE

BOZO IS SMARTER THAN THIS

[BunnyGo]

We need the watcher/doctor to be the same player so the watcher is safe! Goddamnit...

[bozotheclown]

With what Fluminator pointed out, I think ghug and BunnyGo look more suspect for voting together for worcej, then voting together for Fluminator.

If only one of ghug and BunnyGo are mafia, they have the other one fooled. If they are both town, then 2 of Fluminator, GlitterBomb, and worcej have me fooled.

The only concern I have with Fluminator's plan is that it wins the game for mafia if the mafia team is BunnyGo/Fluminator, but I think the fact that ghug is not concerned with that possibility points to ghug being mafia.

[bozotheclown]

We need the watcher/doctor to be the same player so the watcher is safe! Goddamnit...

No, Fluminator's plan demonstrates why different players at D/ST and QB is better. If we don't NK mafia today, we lose with a mafia NK, so it wouldn't matter who gets NKed.

[bozotheclown]

We need the watcher/doctor to be the same player so the watcher is safe! Goddamnit...

No, Fluminator's plan demonstrates why different players at D/ST and QB is better. If we don't NK mafia today, we lose with a mafia NK, so it wouldn't matter who gets NKed.

It probably works either way, but it is better to get all 6 players locked into positions with at least 4 voted before EOD than trying to do the 3/3 vote, where we count on mafia cooperating.

[Fluminator]

I would still go with this:

unofficial roster:
QB GlitterBomb
RB1 worcej
RB2 bozo
TE BunnyGo
D/ST Fluminator
I/R ghug

I would agree with this for sure. If Bunny is town though, we might end up with a tie on some stuff

[Fluminator]

I also agree with this. I’ve spent so much time reviewing it and it’s great. Very insightful. I’m a bit wary because Bunny is pushing me so hard and while grateful, it makes me feel like it’s because I’m doubted or viewed as not capable of doing it right since I’ve been involved with the two rushed EOD votes. But I’m capable and able to do my best! I’m wondering why we wouldn’t want to have one person in both roles (dst and qb) so they can have the most info possible. I feel like I’ve been pretty well town read by now and I am up for the challenge of finally not fucking something up with this game. But will go with consensus of what majority thinks is best.

I think post shows that it is better to have different players at D/ST and QB:

If we go into the night scum I/R, 2 RB, Doc, TE, and QB, then the following situation:
If a scum kill happens, the 2 RB players become confirmed town.

We also coordinate doc to save one and watcher to watch the other.
If anything other than a RB player is killed we have two confirmed town who can indefinitely protect each other. If the watched RB player is killed, the Watcher can claim who visited. If would then be a 1 v 1 between the watcher and who they claim visited so we'd have the other 2 players become confirmed town who can make each other immune.

So for it to not be auto, the final scum has to nokill.
That puts us into 5 players and we have another free miskill and scum is just in a bad situation and would likely have to outlive a couple extra miskills.

And what doesn't work there if THE DOC WATCHES ONE AND SAVES THE OTHER AS A SINGLE PLAYER SO GUARANTEED THE WATHER DOESN"T DIE

BOZO IS SMARTER THAN THIS

It doesn't make a huge different y'all lol. I don't think.

[Fluminator]

We need the watcher/doctor to be the same player so the watcher is safe! Goddamnit...

If Watcher dies assuming we get scum, we have two confirmed towns in roleblock, not a huge deal.

[Fluminator]

Ok this was a case where I should have read the whole thread before posting lol. I basically just repeated what bozo said

[bozotheclown]

We need the watcher/doctor to be the same player so the watcher is safe! Goddamnit...

No, Fluminator's plan demonstrates why different players at D/ST and QB is better. If we don't NK mafia today, we lose with a mafia NK, so it wouldn't matter who gets NKed.

It probably works either way, but it is better to get all 6 players locked into positions with at least 4 voted before EOD than trying to do the 3/3 vote, where we count on mafia cooperating.

I think we need separate D/ST and QB, because if QB is mafia, they could report a fake watch report, then we have a 50/50 with only one confirmed town. We can't afford to have a mafia as a combined D/ST and QB.

[bozotheclown]

I would still go with this:

unofficial roster:
QB GlitterBomb
RB1 worcej
RB2 bozo
TE BunnyGo
D/ST Fluminator
I/R ghug

I would agree with this for sure. If Bunny is town though, we might end up with a tie on some stuff

We need to see if GlitterBomb and worcej are OK with this. BunnyGo and ghug are obviously voting together.