Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

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agreed. If damo is scum, do you think they'd be this blatant? We know Bona was town and just backing his reads/opinions. Flum/Col7by/worcej?

Is Flum always this trolly? He was pretty much in the last game where he was scum.

He's always pretty trolly. I'd say probably moreso when he's town. I'm not feeling great about him right now.

I agree. But I can never read him it feels like.

What has he done this game?

As far as I know, his D1 switch to TFB over Kak is what looks bad?

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I think Col7by, Just, rdrivera, and worcej are probably town.

If my D2 theory is incorrect, Fluminator, GlitterBomb, and Kakarroto are probably town also.

That leaves BunnyGo, damo, ghug, Hamilton, and sweetandcool.

BunnyGo, ghug, and Hamilton all voted for Kakarroto near the end of D1, at a time where a TFB mod-kill could reasonably be anticipated. They collective put Kakarroto in the lead with 4 votes, potentially setting up an additional town elimination (I don't think the Haze elimination could have been anticipated yet). Also, damo still had 3 votes, so the Kakarroto votes had the additional result of protecting damo. I don't think TFB reached 4 votes until after Kakarroto did, so damo was still at risk when the Kakarroto votes started coming in.

This is why I think BunnyGo/damo/ghug/Hamilton makes sense as a mafia team. However, I still think sweetandcool seems like he subbed into a mafia slot, and I could him being part of a mafia team with 3 of these 4.

I think you are off because none of those players particularly feel like scum. Like one max.

Not surprising though

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I'm actually more suspicious of Sweet assuming Will was the damo kill now that he's wrong than if he'd been right lol.

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##Vote Kak

Why?

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Oh that's why?

Sounds incredibly silly.

My reasoning, or what Kak thinks?

Both maybe.

If you are representing Kak properly then Kak.

Otherwise you.

Actually, Fluminator in either case. I don't think you actually care if Kak voted for you once.

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Worcej/Colby/Kak/Flum?

That's the team you think or one of them is Mafia?

I think you have Colby wrong.

I get the accusation here: damo lies about the shot, scum Colby scumslips by assuming the correct NK, consequently Colby is scum.

This is very plausible, but I don't believe it.

Instead, Town Colby still is stuck on damo shooting Will and rdr as NK. Because that is what was strongly touted (particularly by me), in the thread for hours before damo "corrected" it.

What makes this version more compelling is all of the Town slips you have pointed out this game.

Like Colby could be making a concerted effort of scum theater, but I think it is too much to assume that.

I also find damo's rapidfire conclusion to be very convenient to him as scum damo.

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##OFFICIAL ROSTER

1 QB 1 Colby

2 RB 1 ghug

3 RB 2 Bozo

4 WR 1 Kak

5 WR 2 Glitterbomb

6 TE Flum

7 FLEX Bunny

8 D/ST sweetandcool

9 K Ham

10 I/R damo

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That's the team you think or one of them is Mafia?

I think you have Colby wrong.

I get the accusation here: damo lies about the shot, scum Colby scumslips by assuming the correct NK, consequently Colby is scum.

This is very plausible, but I don't believe it.

Instead, Town Colby still is stuck on damo shooting Will and rdr as NK. Because that is what was strongly touted (particularly by me), in the thread for hours before damo "corrected" it.

What makes this version more compelling is all of the Town slips you have pointed out this game.

Like Colby could be making a concerted effort of scum theater, but I think it is too much to assume that.

I also find damo's rapidfire conclusion to be very convenient to him as scum damo.

I’m pretty happy with killing worcej today. Or kaka.

I think Kak iis Town maybe, but that's fair.

Worcej is pretty darn null to me, though I have liked several of his takes throughout the game, in a NAI sort of way.

I'd rather hit damo or Bozo, but worcej is an okay choice outside of my scum reads.

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Is me Town reading you considered buddying? Otherwise no idea what you are talking about.

I would agree with you about the shot if it was pretty much anyone but damo who made it.

And Bozo is probably scum ):

But to be fair my style this game is going more by intuition than the standard analysis.

I do feel pretty sure about damo here.

Sure damo is town?

I’m wondering where bozo is.

Why do you think he’s scum?

Ugh, I would probably have to do analysis to give a reasonable answer, but I really think he is meching us.

I also think it's weird that he touted the idea of making a super player D1, which while offensive to me makes a ton of sense and is the superior strategy, now he has allowed Town to drop it.

Town Bozo would insist on the superior strategy. Mafia Bozo suggests the strategy because he feels obliged, and then if Town doesn't follow he doesn't have to insist on it.

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Glum, you've seemed to have latched onto me and I can't figure out why.

At the very least I think scumming Colby is ludicrous.

I've made only 2 posts questioning about you out loud. If you consider that latching then so be it, but this response is only going to make me latch harder.
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So you don't think there's absolutely any merit to the Colby "scumslip" if you think it's ludicrous?

There is merit but the obvious conclusion is that he is Town.

It really follows strongly when you look at the big picture.

You sound like a newborn with all of your latching.

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Seriously why the fuck do people want Flum for flex? Is he actually everyone's top townread?

Given the game ending potential, I really think it should go to someone like Ham who most people townread.

I've come around to you as probably Town. Ham Town. Bunny Town. Colby Town. Need to adjust my roster. Maybe Bozo too, but I don't trust him yet.

I think damo is definitely scum. Glitter bomb is actually feeling likely even before Bozo started pushing her. Flum is looking not great to me.

Last scum no idea.

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I understand people wanting to dk Kak but let's give him another hour at least.

Bunny sweet glit col7by possible? Anybody see why it can't be?

You'd have to believe I am nakedly and strongly Townreading two of my teammates.

As Flav likes to say, press X to doubt.

Bunny and Colby are obviously Town so this is painful.

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You'd have to believe I am nakedly and strongly Townreading two of my teammates.

As Flav likes to say, press X to doubt.

Bunny and Colby are obviously Town so this is painful.

Bunny is obvtown now too?

Yes, I've thought Bunny Town for a decent while now.

Town:

Colby
Ham/Bunny
ghug

Middling:

Bozo
worcej
Kak(????)

Scummy:

Flum
Glitter bomb
damo

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I don't know what he is. I generally don't think he would do this as scum, but obviously it is possible.

I do think if he is scum he is likely to avoid the modkill by posting last moment.

It's such a crapshoot I would rather "risk" it by killing damo. Bonus is if we flip scum and Kak does post last second, then we know he is Mafia as well.

Just kill Flum with me.

But damo and Glitter bomb seem leagues and bounds more likely Mafia. Flume is my third choice.

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@sweet, if you were against killing Kak, why did you not join me on Flum?

Honestly I was considering it when the Dentist came up and my son broke glass all over the floor. I couldn't get online.

Yeah damo wasn't going to fly, it was too late to flash Glitter bomb, and Flum's scum stock was rising with his last few posts.

I could have joined you there.

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I have no clue where anyone is at any time. Like today I was dialed in enough to see the leaders, but I have no clue how close 2nd place in the vote.

But if you were just voting for the leader, you would have voted for Kak.

You misunderstand. Be very clear with your meaning here because I don't understand what you are saying.

Day 1: I forget about the game and panic whip out a roster around 30 minutes before EoD. I was super scared I would fail at making a roster in time and get modules. Because I had no idea about the gamestate, except I had picked up murmurs about TFN being modkilled, I decided to put him down for the DK.

I did not expect him to have any votes because why would you vote for someone being modkilled? So my vote was specifically intended to not influence the final result. It's like voting no-kill when you have no idea what's going on in a game. It was responsible and not my fault Town screwed that up so epicly.

Today:

I wanted damo out. I was starting to accept that it wasn't happening and I was probably going to join you on Glum when IRL it all went wrong and I couldn't do anything.

I didn't have a chance to parse Kak's awful post or I probably would have considered switching there.

This also clears ghug I think.

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At least is wasn't a sweep.

Some questions I have are:

1. Was Kakarroto bussing Fluminator with his questionable reasons to scum read him D1 and D2?

2. Was sweetandcool trying to protect Kakarroto D1 EOD?

3. Would Col7by be that obvious trying to protect Kakarroto?

4. Was BunnyGo bussing Kakarroto D1 and D3?

5. Was Hamilton bussing Kakarroto D1?

5. Was ghug bussing Kakarroto D1?

I have concluded that 2, 4, 5a, and 5b are most likely, so I think the remaining mafia are in sweetandcool/BunnyGo/Hamilton/ghug.

Yikes Bozo that is literally my entire Townreads other than you.

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And of course ghug is still alive. But that could be scum sowing seeds of doubt. Or he's scum.

The whole fucking game scumreads me, damo. I was the obvious docsave N1 and you let them kill the obvious docsave N3, so there also haven't been very many opportunities to kill me.

Huh? Who is scumming you? I don't think you are widely Townread, but certainly not the opposite.

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Okay yeah, so Glitterbomb wrote a reads list.

Then formed a random team, presumably based off that list, with no regard to how those players could fit together.

I asked for an explanation of how that could be the team. My request for a paragraph (rather than a terse 4-10 words), apparently intimidated her into ignoring me and she felt like her reads list satisfied my question, which it absolutely did not.

On one hand, new player might not think that teams making sense is important, and just thinks their top 4 most individually scummy players must be the team.

On the other hand, Mafia Glitterbomb would come up with scumreads and then mash them together into an ignorant team, like a toddler using one of those shape matching boxes where they try fitting the triangle block through the circle hole.

The former scenario certainly isn't impossible, but all the evidence leads me to favour the latter scenario.

If damo is Mafia, which he is, and Colby is Town, which he is, then the PoE is: Bunny, ghug, Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

I am not 100% certain but I think it very likely Bunny and even ghug are Town.

That leaves Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

Bozo is kind of midline, I think he is Town based on some of his reads.
Worcej is null.
Flum has seemed quite a bit scummy. He tends to troll and seem scummy generally in every game, so he is hard for me to assess, but I don't get a feeling of solving from him.
Glitterbomb, particularly when compared to these other suspects, just seems to have to be scum here. She seems to be fabricating scumreads and throwing them into a scumteam willy nilly.

So assuming a scumteam of damo, Flum, Glitter bomb, my homework is to see if they make sense as a team.

Goodnight y'all!

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This is my current roster thoughts
QB bunny
RB1 ghug
RB2 wor
WR1
WR2 bozo
TE Flum
Flex Colby
D/ST sweet
K glitter
I/R damo

Wow this is embarrassing but that roster is about where I am at.

I think I would swap Colby with Bunny though. Bunny is a fantastic shot and it's just too bad he didn't roll it last night.