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[Col7by]

Hoping bunny comes back on soon to elaborate on the plan here. Catch his many people coming firing at damo maybe?

[worcej]

You were townreading him yesterday when he first started white knighting for Colby, yes?

I’ve also been really digesting his argument for the D1 vote and think there may be some shit hidden in there.

Honestly the only town reads I have of players alive are bozo and flum. I am null on most and am scuming colby, sweet, and you.

Why in ghug's name do you townread Flum?

Not trying to deflect, but why do you scum him?

For me - I town Flum because I can follow his thought processes and I feel he is explaining his reads. You’re also scumming him so that reinforces it more for me.

[Col7by]

Starting to think that maybe it’s better to put bunny at WR. If he’s lying then no OR. If the truth we have a chance to put two people in RB who could be scum and still make bunny flex next round

[worcej]

For real glitter, post your notes, and then make your notes in the thread instead.

I will figure out how to do that tomorrow. And I have been streamlining my notes in the thread. But I’m a chaotic thinker. And visual. Lots of arrows and circles and such. You all don’t like my conclusions thus far, the notes probably aren’t gonna help my case. But I have nothing to hide so like I said, I will figure it out tomorrow!

I now understand how you’re married to BB lol

[ghug]

I’ve also been really digesting his argument for the D1 vote and think there may be some shit hidden in there.

Honestly the only town reads I have of players alive are bozo and flum. I am null on most and am scuming colby, sweet, and you.

Why in ghug's name do you townread Flum?

Not trying to deflect, but why do you scum him?

For me - I town Flum because I can follow his thought processes and I feel he is explaining his reads. You’re also scumming him so that reinforces it more for me.

I scumread Flum because his thought processes have been very shallow, rare ,and limited in scope (maybe why they appeal to you ), because he cast a questionable vote to save Kak day 2, because sweet was hesitant to vote for him yesterday, and because I found his desire for movement EoD2 at odds with his unwillingness to make anything happen himself.

[damo666]

Starting to think that maybe it’s better to put bunny at WR. If he’s lying then no OR. If the truth we have a chance to put two people in RB who could be scum and still make bunny flex next round

Suppose Bunny and sweet both scum. That's why Bunny has to be RBd. TownBunny will accept this without question.

[GlitterBomb]

Do I think it's bad for town? Yes.

Do I think it's scum motivated? Not really.

I went with bozo as qb for the D1 vote which was a consensus. But also, I’ve been trying to read people based on who I put where. Contrary to what sweet says, my reads and my rosters have been VERY intentional!!! And another thing on the concept of consensus…. Im so wary of that bc how do I know I’m not just joining in with the mafia? I don’t. So yes, a lot of times I think it’s good to be a bit of an independent thinker and I don’t think that’s bad for town.

If they have been intentional, why are you appearing to avoid general consensus votes?

As I said above, I don’t want to be in consensus with the bad guys. Groupthink is a real thing and I want to come to my own conclusions. I’m fine with consensus as I’ve developed my own thoughts a bit more.

[Col7by]

Starting to think that maybe it’s better to put bunny at WR. If he’s lying then no OR. If the truth we have a chance to put two people in RB who could be scum and still make bunny flex next round

Suppose Bunny and sweet both scum. That's why Bunny has to be RBd. TownBunny will accept this without question.

They could be but I think that is the least likely of the three options. Scum were in such a good spot there’s no reason for them to bus now

[GlitterBomb]

My money is still on Flum/worcej, so I guess I'll vote to RB there.

I think sweet was legitimately frustrated at Glitter so she's probably town.
I agree with Flum that the Colby defense is unlikely to be scum/scum.
Sweet has appeared very bothered by my assertion that he had the opportunity to vote Flum and didn't yesterday, but he made several posts after I asked him to vote Flum, so while I believe the out of game excuse insofar as it caused him to not be around as long, I don't buy that it makes his not voting for Flum less problematic.

IDK why you expect me to knee jerk vote for my third scumread over my top two. I was coming to the realization the other two weren't going to fly and that I should vote Flum when IRL screwed me over.

It still hurts to see obvious scum damo getting free yet another day.

If it hurts and he’s obvious scum, then why aren’t you voting for him as I/R instead of me? Seems like an easy solution?

[sweetandcool]

My money is still on Flum/worcej, so I guess I'll vote to RB there.

I think sweet was legitimately frustrated at Glitter so she's probably town.
I agree with Flum that the Colby defense is unlikely to be scum/scum.
Sweet has appeared very bothered by my assertion that he had the opportunity to vote Flum and didn't yesterday, but he made several posts after I asked him to vote Flum, so while I believe the out of game excuse insofar as it caused him to not be around as long, I don't buy that it makes his not voting for Flum less problematic.

IDK why you expect me to knee jerk vote for my third scumread over my top two. I was coming to the realization the other two weren't going to fly and that I should vote Flum when IRL screwed me over.

It still hurts to see obvious scum damo getting free yet another day.

If it hurts and he’s obvious scum, then why aren’t you voting for him as I/R instead of me? Seems like an easy solution?

Such a troll, I bet you are just loving this.

[worcej]

Oh dear, I have been a bit stupid.

Bunny alluded to this point when railing at damo, but I think it's worth considering all the nasty things Mafia could have done while in PR positions. I think in the end this only applies to damo, since I think our other PRs are either flipped our obvtown or Bozo. But it's definitely worth a critical examination of the type of plays Mafia could have gone for, particularly when damo got the gun.

Okay now really goodnight.

This seems fake AF

[GlitterBomb]

IDK why you expect me to knee jerk vote for my third scumread over my top two. I was coming to the realization the other two weren't going to fly and that I should vote Flum when IRL screwed me over.

It still hurts to see obvious scum damo getting free yet another day.

If it hurts and he’s obvious scum, then why aren’t you voting for him as I/R instead of me? Seems like an easy solution?

Such a troll, I bet you are just loving this.

You’re super fond of name calling, huh? Not trolling, legit question.

If I was trolling I would ask for a paragraph's worth of explanation. But I’m not doing that.

[worcej]

I went with bozo as qb for the D1 vote which was a consensus. But also, I’ve been trying to read people based on who I put where. Contrary to what sweet says, my reads and my rosters have been VERY intentional!!! And another thing on the concept of consensus…. Im so wary of that bc how do I know I’m not just joining in with the mafia? I don’t. So yes, a lot of times I think it’s good to be a bit of an independent thinker and I don’t think that’s bad for town.

If they have been intentional, why are you appearing to avoid general consensus votes?

As I said above, I don’t want to be in consensus with the bad guys. Groupthink is a real thing and I want to come to my own conclusions. I’m fine with consensus as I’ve developed my own thoughts a bit more.

I would understand your position but you have not been posting your opinions enough over the course of the game for me to understand how your thoughts are.

[worcej]

If it hurts and he’s obvious scum, then why aren’t you voting for him as I/R instead of me? Seems like an easy solution?

Such a troll, I bet you are just loving this.

You’re super fond of name calling, huh? Not trolling, legit question.

If I was trolling I would ask for a paragraph's worth of explanation. But I’m not doing that.

Idk if I can consider calling someone a troll as name calling…

[worcej]

Expected value is 2 but I could easily seeing it be one or three.

Flum really feels in my bones like a bus. I'm doubting that both you and Bunny are town, which is the big change in my opinion since the flip.

2 would mean exactly 2 scum in F Bo Bu or they are all town.

1 right implies Bunny is scum.

3 right would imply all 3 are scum or one of BozoFlum is

Applying the following [arbitrary] probabilities to Pr(n right) given I know Pr(0)=0

Pr(1) 0.2
Pr(2) 0.5
Pr(3) 0.2
Pr(4) 0.1

Scum chances are

Bozo 60% Flum 60% Bunny 40%

Given random is 33% I feel I need to pick one of these as I/R.

I hate when you math…

[worcej]

Does anyone want to somehow create a doc of when submissions were complete and the order. The google doc is just the final submissions rip

Fuck no - because of effort not results

[GlitterBomb]

If they have been intentional, why are you appearing to avoid general consensus votes?

As I said above, I don’t want to be in consensus with the bad guys. Groupthink is a real thing and I want to come to my own conclusions. I’m fine with consensus as I’ve developed my own thoughts a bit more.

I would understand your position but you have not been posting your opinions enough over the course of the game for me to understand how your thoughts are.

I’m sorry you feel that way. I can absolutely improve but do a bit search on me and my posts alone. I just did. I stated a lot of opinions and reactions throughout. I posted unofficial rosters, I went along with the consensus to post first official rosters 24ish hours in so we could get a plan going….

[worcej]

This is my current roster thoughts
QB bunny
RB1 ghug
RB2 wor
WR1
WR2 bozo
TE Flum
Flex Colby
D/ST sweet
K glitter
I/R damo

Why use the kicker?

[GlitterBomb]

Such a troll, I bet you are just loving this.

You’re super fond of name calling, huh? Not trolling, legit question.

If I was trolling I would ask for a paragraph's worth of explanation. But I’m not doing that.

Idk if I can consider calling someone a troll as name calling…

Alone…maybe not. But he’s now called me rude, dense, a troll and a liar (prepared to accuse falsely of cheating). So I feel like there’s a pattern here and the maturity level seems to be at about that of my three year old.

[Col7by]

This is my current roster thoughts
QB bunny
RB1 ghug
RB2 wor
WR1
WR2 bozo
TE Flum
Flex Colby
D/ST sweet
K glitter
I/R damo

Why use the kicker?

I think preventing people from being flex next round is more important