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[brainbomb]

Final tally
Qb: HamiltonBrian (7)
Rb: Tie
Rb2: col7by (6)
WR: worcej (3)
WR2: bozotheclown (4)
TE: worcej (6)
Flex: BunnyGo (8)
DST: damo666 (6)
K: damo666 (3)
IR: kakarotto (6)

@GM

Kicker is a tie (me and sweet) not damo

##call GM

see above

check restrictions please

This is correct
Kicker was a Tie
Damo is not exempt and there are no restrictions on damo this phase.

Apologies

[brainbomb]

@GM does the doc save only protect against scum NK or does ot also protect against Flex vig?

Doc save can protect vs both

[damo666]

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

This could be a ghug/glitter setup where ghug asked glitter to give her notes that she forged previously to make her look good. But glitter's delay in posting them makes me think that's not as likely.

Glitter is probably just town at this point, there's no shortage of scummy behavior elsewhere.

Way too elaborate

[sweetandcool]

Yes. I understand that. I also said I didn’t feel like I had a good enough read on Kak because of how little he posted. Damo is all over the place as a player in my limited experience with him. And I don’t think his actions necessarily automatically make him scum. I think they make him an over-analyzer.

And to your earlier point which I’m not finding about me changing my mind in bunny…. People are changing their minds all the time. I don’t believe I ever said I thought he was town. I did however vote for him in a PR to see what reactions that generated.

That's what I was talking about. Voting them into PR indicates quite a bit of trust.

Changing your mind is fine. It's important to explain why you changed your mind. It doesn't need to be an essay, but it needs to be something.

E.g. Wow I thought Bunny was scum because he's useless and confusing with all his questions, but then we put him into a PR slot and he shot Mafia. Wow, I must have been wrong about him, he is a Townread now.

Rather than:

Glitterbomb: Bunny is scum and these are his scummates.
sweetandcool: Wow that is a wild group, why do you think that?
Glitterbomb:...................
Glitterbomb: Bunny is Town.
sweetandcool: ??????

When did I say I though Bunny was town???

So your strategy is to vote scum into PR slots?

And this is your response? Your only takeaway from my post???

[sweetandcool]

Okay yeah, so Glitterbomb wrote a reads list.

Then formed a random team, presumably based off that list, with no regard to how those players could fit together.

I asked for an explanation of how that could be the team. My request for a paragraph (rather than a terse 4-10 words), apparently intimidated her into ignoring me and she felt like her reads list satisfied my question, which it absolutely did not.

On one hand, new player might not think that teams making sense is important, and just thinks their top 4 most individually scummy players must be the team.

On the other hand, Mafia Glitterbomb would come up with scumreads and then mash them together into an ignorant team, like a toddler using one of those shape matching boxes where they try fitting the triangle block through the circle hole.

The former scenario certainly isn't impossible, but all the evidence leads me to favour the latter scenario.

If damo is Mafia, which he is, and Colby is Town, which he is, then the PoE is: Bunny, ghug, Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

I am not 100% certain but I think it very likely Bunny and even ghug are Town.

That leaves Bozo, worcej, Flum, Glitterbomb.

Bozo is kind of midline, I think he is Town based on some of his reads.
Worcej is null.
Flum has seemed quite a bit scummy. He tends to troll and seem scummy generally in every game, so he is hard for me to assess, but I don't get a feeling of solving from him.
Glitterbomb, particularly when compared to these other suspects, just seems to have to be scum here. She seems to be fabricating scumreads and throwing them into a scumteam willy nilly.

So assuming a scumteam of damo, Flum, Glitter bomb, my homework is to see if they make sense as a team.

Goodnight y'all!

That’s your (wrong) opinion. My reads list absolutely met your demand. And as far as how the teammates “fit together” - I don’t know that I need to know that necessarily. With four mafia and our only confirmed mafia being pretty inactive, it’s hard to say how they may or may not have worked together. So again, all speculative. And you say that hard defending of other players doesn’t mean anything - but what can you point to that absolutely makes col7by and bunny innocent? You keep saying I read him as town and changed my mind - where did I ever say that? And you also say that excessive talking/posting is NAI…. Sure, but it also can be. I feel like there is a LOT to be said for distraction, engaging and arguing to take away from the overall mission…. And that has been happening a lot this game. So because I don’t have it all figured out yet and the list of players don’t “go together” in your book, I’m scum? Yeah, totally logical.

In this game and particularly in your other I have seen stuff from you that is impressive and I think you have great intuition.

So this conversation is very frustrating because you are being deliberately dense and seem to be arguing the whole game is impossible.

[sweetandcool]

Anyone know how to successfully upload pictures to here? I thought I was just tired last night but it’s still not working for me this morning…. I’ve tried just one attachment. I’ve tried taking a pic thru webdip. Nothing is working…

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

Well that was fun.

Fyi, while it is not illegal to lie about IRL stuff, and perhaps some Mafia players do, I certainly do not. It's not fun to get scumread for IRL stuff, and if you start lying about IRL stuff then people are going to be more encouraged to scumread you for IRL stuff.

So when I say I am busy because of the dentist and because my kid shattered some glass (actually it was ceramic), then I mean it.

[ghug]

Expected value is 2 but I could easily seeing it be one or three.

Flum really feels in my bones like a bus. I'm doubting that both you and Bunny are town, which is the big change in my opinion since the flip.

2 would mean exactly 2 scum in F Bo Bu or they are all town.

1 right implies Bunny is scum.

3 right would imply all 3 are scum or one of BozoFlum is

Applying the following [arbitrary] probabilities to Pr(n right) given I know Pr(0)=0

Pr(1) 0.2
Pr(2) 0.5
Pr(3) 0.2
Pr(4) 0.1

Scum chances are

Bozo 60% Flum 60% Bunny 40%

Given random is 33% I feel I need to pick one of these as I/R.

Oh my

[Col7by]

This is my current roster thoughts
QB bunny
RB1 ghug
RB2 wor
WR1
WR2 bozo
TE Flum
Flex Colby
D/ST sweet
K glitter
I/R damo

[GlitterBomb]

Sry no clue

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

Well that was fun.

Fyi, while it is not illegal to lie about IRL stuff, and perhaps some Mafia players do, I certainly do not. It's not fun to get scumread for IRL stuff, and if you start lying about IRL stuff then people are going to be more encouraged to scumread you for IRL stuff.

So when I say I am busy because of the dentist and because my kid shattered some glass (actually it was ceramic), then I mean it.

The busy stuff was an excuse for Kak and look how that turned out - strategy. And I’m not the one who brought up that the dentist thing could be code. I was just noting it.

[sweetandcool]

This is my current roster thoughts
QB bunny
RB1 ghug
RB2 wor
WR1
WR2 bozo
TE Flum
Flex Colby
D/ST sweet
K glitter
I/R damo

Wow this is embarrassing but that roster is about where I am at.

I think I would swap Colby with Bunny though. Bunny is a fantastic shot and it's just too bad he didn't roll it last night.

[sweetandcool]

Ok! Trying this…

Here’s a link to a Google doc with the pics of all of my notes.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zkRgAZW-hIWyxJHNr4rTSjYJ9VI3KgCBPGFKstO7RY/edit

Hoping this works!

Well that was fun.

Fyi, while it is not illegal to lie about IRL stuff, and perhaps some Mafia players do, I certainly do not. It's not fun to get scumread for IRL stuff, and if you start lying about IRL stuff then people are going to be more encouraged to scumread you for IRL stuff.

So when I say I am busy because of the dentist and because my kid shattered some glass (actually it was ceramic), then I mean it.

The busy stuff was an excuse for Kak and look how that turned out - strategy. And I’m not the one who brought up that the dentist thing could be code. I was just noting it.

I am 100% certain Kak wasn't lying. He is a very active player and his behavior this game was extremely out of character.

Please do not sully his reputation by questioning his integrity and IRL honesty.

[Col7by]

This is my current roster thoughts
QB bunny
RB1 ghug
RB2 wor
WR1
WR2 bozo
TE Flum
Flex Colby
D/ST sweet
K glitter
I/R damo

Wow this is embarrassing but that roster is about where I am at.

I think I would swap Colby with Bunny though. Bunny is a fantastic shot and it's just too bad he didn't roll it last night.

Bunny may be a good shot but I need to see what happened last night and his thoughts on it. Bunny?

[Fluminator]

Well that was fun.

Fyi, while it is not illegal to lie about IRL stuff, and perhaps some Mafia players do, I certainly do not. It's not fun to get scumread for IRL stuff, and if you start lying about IRL stuff then people are going to be more encouraged to scumread you for IRL stuff.

So when I say I am busy because of the dentist and because my kid shattered some glass (actually it was ceramic), then I mean it.

The busy stuff was an excuse for Kak and look how that turned out - strategy. And I’m not the one who brought up that the dentist thing could be code. I was just noting it.

I am 100% certain Kak wasn't lying. He is a very active player and his behavior this game was extremely out of character.

Please do not sully his reputation by questioning his integrity and IRL honesty.

This is a little dramatic lol.

[sweetandcool]

The busy stuff was an excuse for Kak and look how that turned out - strategy. And I’m not the one who brought up that the dentist thing could be code. I was just noting it.

I am 100% certain Kak wasn't lying. He is a very active player and his behavior this game was extremely out of character.

Please do not sully his reputation by questioning his integrity and IRL honesty.

This is a little dramatic lol.

I find it extremely offensive.

[Fluminator]

This Colby and Sweet alliance smells stinky. Would they be so obvious together?

[sweetandcool]

This Colby and Sweet alliance smells stinky. Would they be so obvious together?

It would be stinky if it was sweet and gorgonzola.

[GlitterBomb]

Well that was fun.

Fyi, while it is not illegal to lie about IRL stuff, and perhaps some Mafia players do, I certainly do not. It's not fun to get scumread for IRL stuff, and if you start lying about IRL stuff then people are going to be more encouraged to scumread you for IRL stuff.

So when I say I am busy because of the dentist and because my kid shattered some glass (actually it was ceramic), then I mean it.

The busy stuff was an excuse for Kak and look how that turned out - strategy. And I’m not the one who brought up that the dentist thing could be code. I was just noting it.

I am 100% certain Kak wasn't lying. He is a very active player and his behavior this game was extremely out of character.

Please do not sully his reputation by questioning his integrity and IRL honesty.

Oh my the drama! I am not sullying anybody’s reputation. He said in his last notes that he’d been following along all the time. He said that. You guys are the ones who pushed to see my unfiltered notes, and you got them.

[GlitterBomb]

I am 100% certain Kak wasn't lying. He is a very active player and his behavior this game was extremely out of character.

Please do not sully his reputation by questioning his integrity and IRL honesty.

This is a little dramatic lol.

I find it extremely offensive.

Then you need to lighten up.

[sweetandcool]

This Colby and Sweet alliance smells stinky. Would they be so obvious together?

The only motivation could be if we wanted to put ourselves into PR slots.

But then if either of us flips the implications are obvious and the entire scumteam caught.

So such poor strategy it is quite doubtful.

And it overlooks the fact that Colby is obvious Town.

[sweetandcool]

The busy stuff was an excuse for Kak and look how that turned out - strategy. And I’m not the one who brought up that the dentist thing could be code. I was just noting it.

I am 100% certain Kak wasn't lying. He is a very active player and his behavior this game was extremely out of character.

Please do not sully his reputation by questioning his integrity and IRL honesty.

Oh my the drama! I am not sullying anybody’s reputation. He said in his last notes that he’d been following along all the time. He said that. You guys are the ones who pushed to see my unfiltered notes, and you got them.

I'm trying to be helpful here.

It is not pleasant to be accused of lying of IRL stuff.

Next you are going to be making baseless cheating accusations