Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

[Fluminator]

If you're somehow town, you scumread me because of OMGUS, not because of Kak interactions.

I tried to kill Kak day one. Flum protected him. Don't let him pretend that didn't happen.

I thought you said scum wouldn't be protecting Kak? I've never hidden from my day 1 votes.

You're not a lockscum read yet because it's possible you're extra paranoid of me after I was scum last game but I do not understand this tunnel otherwise, or the timing of it when Kak was finally up for kill.

Maybe you're voting on him day 1 will make you look better when I re-look.

I came into day three scumreading you. It's not like I did it in response to Kak gaining momentum.

You've been trying to paint me as scummy for scumreading you and doing no other solving. Your relationship with Kak makes total sense as you two bussing the shit out of each other except for a brief window at the end of day 1. Your EoD2 behavior and your constant reluctance to give opinions show me that you don't about getting anything done.

Well, the first red flag was your power grab in day 2 that accidentally tied the QB after pretending you didn't think we should give you it (and yes I know your explanation for it, I wasn't satisfied by it), not you scumreading me. Your initial scumread on me I thought you might actually be town just going for reactions and said that. It wasn't until you got seroius I started suspecting.

I've given reads on both scum and PR desires. I've made at least one list.
I'll be giving more opinions soon when I read more.

[BunnyGo]

Still trying to drive the Colby MK?

I bet one of those is your teammate.

Possible. I don't know. Do you?

Yeah I think there is a strong chance it is Glitterbomb. Severely doubt it is Bunny.

Even if he is being a bit theatrical right now.

I would have saved Ham even if the GM assured me he wasn’t targeted. It was too good not to!

[BunnyGo]

And of course ghug is still alive. But that could be scum sowing seeds of doubt. Or he's scum.

The whole fucking game scumreads me, damo. I was the obvious docsave N1 and you let them kill the obvious docsave N3, so there also haven't been very many opportunities to kill me.

Huh? Who is scumming you? I don't think you are widely Townread, but certainly not the opposite.

I’m townleaning…but then my “oh shit it’s ghug” factor kicks in

[BunnyGo]

Annnnnnnd welcome back to my scum group

It’s a smart play.

Here’s the one thing I can’t figure out:

If scum!Damo had saved Hamilton, we’d have had a VERY hard time finding him out. I doubt we would have. So why not gamble on it?

I don’t have theories I like yet; except that they didn’t think of the gambit.

Can we have super Colby instead? At this point we need a super so I will set aside my distaste.

I'd be okay with you, but you are not locktown like Colby is to me.

I will be.

[bozotheclown]

I tried to outguess scum and failed.

Ham was the obvious target so therefore the obvious save so therefore becomes a bad target so hence I saved elsewhere. It's all WIFOMy double and triple bluffs. I gambled and got it wrong. Scum outguessed me rather than vice versa and having got their NK through start their planned attack on me to get me MKd. Put me I/R if you like but I'm town.

Scum are glitterbomb Col7b plus a hidden (Bunny maybe?)

BULLSHIT

We're behind.

We have a townclear.

WHO IS WATCHING.

THERE'S NO OTHER PRIORITY.

town!damo knows this.

scum!damo knows this.

die!damo!die!

Is there a reason the doctor should not always protect the watcher?

Yes. And I’d expect bozo would know better

[bozotheclown]

Hammer means end the phase early.

We should have a competitive vote.

I also think it's plausible town damo did this and even though I am frustrated I don't think airing that frustration by killing him will make me feel better if he is town.

I understand the knee jerk reaction but I assume you follow the reasoning behind my strategy.

Some of the knee jerk could be genuine but I strongly suspect some was pre planned in scumchat for the event I didn't save Ham.

In retrospect scum are far enough in front they could risk missing a nk.

The part I'm struggling with is that you successfully saving Ham means creating two clears, who we can then make invulnerable forever. I can understand you doing what you did as town. I can't understand mafia doing what they did if you're town.

So…let’s discuss other votes.

We can stick our remaining two scum in RB and get a kill free night.

Can also arrange for a SUPERBUNNY (TM) to win both doctor and QB so we FINALLY GET SOME INTEL!!!

Annnnnnnd welcome back to my scum group

It’s a smart play.

Here’s the one thing I can’t figure out:

If scum!Damo had saved Hamilton, we’d have had a VERY hard time finding him out. I doubt we would have. So why not gamble on it?

I don’t have theories I like yet; except that they didn’t think of the gambit.

The second post explains why damo targeting Hamilton would not result in 2 town clears.

BunnyGo not commenting on ghug's post is suspicious, though.

Also, these don't seem like town posts to me.

[bozotheclown]

It seems like BunnyGo had this argument ready in case the mafia NK did not go through, so he could scum read damo for hitting the NK.

[sweetandcool]

It’s a smart play.

Here’s the one thing I can’t figure out:

If scum!Damo had saved Hamilton, we’d have had a VERY hard time finding him out. I doubt we would have. So why not gamble on it?

I don’t have theories I like yet; except that they didn’t think of the gambit.

Can we have super Colby instead? At this point we need a super so I will set aside my distaste.

I'd be okay with you, but you are not locktown like Colby is to me.

I will be.

Eh?

[bozotheclown]

Sorry I had to bail.

I was going to say even though Kak flipped scum that we could have flipped a different Mafia member and gotten better info, but actually this gives us another night for Mafia to get hit by our PRs, so yeah a good win.

Really glad we got him because now that I have been able to scan his big post, absolutely yuck.

Busy now, baby crying, about to go shopping.

What didn't you like about Kakarroto's post?

[bozotheclown]

Ok we can kill Kak.

What the fuck Kak? If you're town, you should be ashamed.

What did you not like about Kakarroto's post?

[bozotheclown]

We only have one top scum in common, so let's kill Flum.

You don't even have any reasons, you're just worried I'll pay attention to you more tomorrow if I'm alive and enough people have expressed vague "scumminess" about me.

This post is Flum telling me that he's scum and I can't do shit about it.

You were already voting for him, what did you mean be saying you couldn't do anything about it?

[bozotheclown]

Lock scum. I only read the first 2 sentences.

What about those sentences convinced you he was mafia?

[ghug]

Ok we can kill Kak.

What the fuck Kak? If you're town, you should be ashamed.

What did you not like about Kakarroto's post?

He spent the time writing up a huge pile of drivel instead of interacting with us. I hadn't even read the post at this point, but it's really easy for me to imagine a town Kak writing six paragraphs of shitty fanfiction instead of playing the game there and that's where my mind went.

[ghug]

You don't even have any reasons, you're just worried I'll pay attention to you more tomorrow if I'm alive and enough people have expressed vague "scumminess" about me.

This post is Flum telling me that he's scum and I can't do shit about it.

You were already voting for him, what did you mean be saying you couldn't do anything about it?

I wasn't succeeding in killing him. He was taunting me.

[bozotheclown]

Ok we can kill Kak.

What the fuck Kak? If you're town, you should be ashamed.

What did you not like about Kakarroto's post?

He spent the time writing up a huge pile of drivel instead of interacting with us. I hadn't even read the post at this point, but it's really easy for me to imagine a town Kak writing six paragraphs of shitty fanfiction instead of playing the game there and that's where my mind went.

Wouldn't you want to at least read the post before deciding he should be the DK?

[ghug]

What did you not like about Kakarroto's post?

He spent the time writing up a huge pile of drivel instead of interacting with us. I hadn't even read the post at this point, but it's really easy for me to imagine a town Kak writing six paragraphs of shitty fanfiction instead of playing the game there and that's where my mind went.

Wouldn't you want to at least read the post before deciding he should be the DK?

I didn't have time to read the post, as I was surreptitiously checking my phone during a meeting. As I see it, there's no content that's worth writing up an essay when you're about to be killed for inactivity instead of just coming in and talking.

[GlitterBomb]

Huh? Who is scumming you? I don't think you are widely Townread, but certainly not the opposite.

Flum, worcej, Glitter I think, bozo, Bunny's been tending that direction.

Oh true Bunny and Bozo. Not strongly though? Glitter is making up her reads, they make zero sense.

Ok now that’s rude. I have not been making them up at all. I have PAGES of notes written out. And I’ve put a ton of thought into my reads. But isn’t this basically a guessing game anyway? I mean, you’ve been declaring specific players very strongly and adamantly as town and I have t exactly seen the proof from you.

[GlitterBomb]

Still trying to drive the Colby MK?

I bet one of those is your teammate.

Possible. I don't know. Do you?

Yeah I think there is a strong chance it is Glitterbomb. Severely doubt it is Bunny.

Even if he is being a bit theatrical right now.

Your strong chance is wrong. Why do you think it’s bunny? Because he posts allllll the time and asks a million questions of everyone just like you? I barely get reactions from my posts I spend hours thinking out. Strongly suspicious if you two as a scum our, have been and continue to be.

[GlitterBomb]

Maybe it's Bunny sweet col7by.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS!!!

[GlitterBomb]

The confirmed town as PR thing isn't really a good metric. Widely townread people are more likely to be voted into PRs and more likely to be killed by scum. Glitter has not involved herself in consensus voting.

Isn't that part of the problem to you though?

Do I think it's bad for town? Yes.

Do I think it's scum motivated? Not really.

I went with bozo as qb for the D1 vote which was a consensus. But also, I’ve been trying to read people based on who I put where. Contrary to what sweet says, my reads and my rosters have been VERY intentional!!! And another thing on the concept of consensus…. Im so wary of that bc how do I know I’m not just joining in with the mafia? I don’t. So yes, a lot of times I think it’s good to be a bit of an independent thinker and I don’t think that’s bad for town.