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[ghug]

This was the same fucking PRs a day later and you all just copied him...

Do the scum team fill the PR roles with their own members? Is that too blatant?

I doubt entirely, but they were clearly OK with the set we were choosing day 2.

[ghug]

I won't be around much today before eon.
The last minute push on me was an attempt to save Kak. It's pretty clear from my perspective
Ghug and Colby were the most vocal, but Sweet was talking about it too. Ghug later asked tonight why Sweet didn't hop on my wagon which was interesting.

Like I said earlier, although it was a scum push, I don't think it would have happened if there wasn't at least one town that suspected me.
So I lean towards two of Ghug/Colby/Sweet being scum. I would find it hilarious if all were scum, but I don't think all 4 and only 4 scum are scum reading me lol.

If I die, kill one of those 3 next.

While fair I actually tried for the ghug push with you

It's almost like Flum knew how Kak was going to flip and didn't want trying to kill someone at the last minute hanging over his head.

I have the benefit of knowing my own alignment here, but I think the idea that there was a scum-motivated push to save Kak is pretty silly on the face of it. Kak was dead weight to their team, and a majority spent much of the late day thinking he'd be modkilled. By the time I started pushing in earnest to kill someone else, it was pretty late and pretty unlikely Kak wouldn't be the death, and almost certain that he'd be dying soon one way or another even if he avoided it. Given that Kak wasn't providing much of anything to his team, what reason would mafia have to put multiple members out on limbs and looking bad just to try and save him?

[Hamilton Brian]

Did Brain have a preferred method of contact for the PR role?

As in, ##watch target sent via PM? I didn't see anything about this on the first page.

[Fluminator]

I won't be around much today before eon.
The last minute push on me was an attempt to save Kak. It's pretty clear from my perspective
Ghug and Colby were the most vocal, but Sweet was talking about it too. Ghug later asked tonight why Sweet didn't hop on my wagon which was interesting.

Like I said earlier, although it was a scum push, I don't think it would have happened if there wasn't at least one town that suspected me.
So I lean towards two of Ghug/Colby/Sweet being scum. I would find it hilarious if all were scum, but I don't think all 4 and only 4 scum are scum reading me lol.

If I die, kill one of those 3 next.

While fair I actually tried for the ghug push with you

It's almost like Flum knew how Kak was going to flip and didn't want trying to kill someone at the last minute hanging over his head.

I have the benefit of knowing my own alignment here, but I think the idea that there was a scum-motivated push to save Kak is pretty silly on the face of it. Kak was dead weight to their team, and a majority spent much of the late day thinking he'd be modkilled. By the time I started pushing in earnest to kill someone else, it was pretty late and pretty unlikely Kak wouldn't be the death, and almost certain that he'd be dying soon one way or another even if he avoided it. Given that Kak wasn't providing much of anything to his team, what reason would mafia have to put multiple members out on limbs and looking bad just to try and save him?

You're starting with an assumption I'm scum and working your way backwards. Town ghug usually works the other way around.

I don't think it was high risk at all for you to try to potentially save Kak. Scum do scummy stuff all the time and say "Would I have been that obvious if I was scum?". And it often works.

[ghug]

While fair I actually tried for the ghug push with you

It's almost like Flum knew how Kak was going to flip and didn't want trying to kill someone at the last minute hanging over his head.

I have the benefit of knowing my own alignment here, but I think the idea that there was a scum-motivated push to save Kak is pretty silly on the face of it. Kak was dead weight to their team, and a majority spent much of the late day thinking he'd be modkilled. By the time I started pushing in earnest to kill someone else, it was pretty late and pretty unlikely Kak wouldn't be the death, and almost certain that he'd be dying soon one way or another even if he avoided it. Given that Kak wasn't providing much of anything to his team, what reason would mafia have to put multiple members out on limbs and looking bad just to try and save him?

You're starting with an assumption I'm scum and working your way backwards. Town ghug usually works the other way around.

I don't think it was high risk at all for you to try to potentially save Kak. Scum do scummy stuff all the time and say "Would I have been that obvious if I was scum?". And it often works.

The assumption you're scum only factors into the snarky first sentence. The rest isn't predicated on your assignment.

Sure, there's an element of WIFOM to something like this, but my experience is that shit like that usually doesn't work out for him, and I sure as hell wouldn't be putting it all on the line to save a teammate who isn't playing.

[ghug]

Did Brain have a preferred method of contact for the PR role?

As in, ##watch target sent via PM? I didn't see anything about this on the first page.

I submitted on discord but I'm sure a PM would work too.

[worcej]

In my defense, and to get you to walk back your opinion that I look worse, I really have not been giving thought to the implications of the WR roles. It's been a scramble to fill the rosters and I struggled with even getting my rosters set. When Brain gave me my first warning I didn't know why and then I looked at the setup to see where I could have gone wrong.

I don't think the WRs are as important to get right as the QB, FLEX, DST, TE.

I was saying you look worse only for trying to I/R bozo over Kak earlier in the phase. It had nothing to do with the WRs.

I've honestly put zero effort into the WR slots and consider them to be the a low priority slot.

They were in the early game, but they're going to start limiting our PR options going forward, so we need to be careful sticking townreads there.

I honestly see the WR spot being the ones to now drop off as the game gets to less than 10 players.

My assumption is that we focus on the PRs and RBs and then just fill in the blanks from there.

[ghug]

I was saying you look worse only for trying to I/R bozo over Kak earlier in the phase. It had nothing to do with the WRs.

I've honestly put zero effort into the WR slots and consider them to be the a low priority slot.

They were in the early game, but they're going to start limiting our PR options going forward, so we need to be careful sticking townreads there.

I honestly see the WR spot being the ones to now drop off as the game gets to less than 10 players.

My assumption is that we focus on the PRs and RBs and then just fill in the blanks from there.

Yes, it will wane again. We have to fill 1-3 of those spots tomorrow depending on night actions, though, and if one of the three of you were cleared tonight, we'd have less control over where to put you tomorrow.

It's not the most important thing, but it definitely matters.

[worcej]

They were in the early game, but they're going to start limiting our PR options going forward, so we need to be careful sticking townreads there.

I honestly see the WR spot being the ones to now drop off as the game gets to less than 10 players.

My assumption is that we focus on the PRs and RBs and then just fill in the blanks from there.

Yes, it will wane again. We have to fill 1-3 of those spots tomorrow depending on night actions, though, and if one of the three of you were cleared tonight, we'd have less control over where to put you tomorrow.

It's not the most important thing, but it definitely matters.

Were cleared tonight?

[ghug]

I honestly see the WR spot being the ones to now drop off as the game gets to less than 10 players.

My assumption is that we focus on the PRs and RBs and then just fill in the blanks from there.

Yes, it will wane again. We have to fill 1-3 of those spots tomorrow depending on night actions, though, and if one of the three of you were cleared tonight, we'd have less control over where to put you tomorrow.

It's not the most important thing, but it definitely matters.

Were cleared tonight?

There are ways it could happen.

[damo666]

Col7by said he did not want to DK Kakarroto D2, then again on D3.

I thought there were bigger fish to fry than kak which there still are. I did put Kak at TE d2 and final v it’s on D3 when consolidating although doesn’t mean as much

Yes and focusing on Kak nailed us mafia. Otherwise I think we would have miskilled again because there really wasn't a consensus (not having the spreadsheet open to look at votes).

Kak at TE looks alright but how safe a mafia play would you say that is?

Dead safe. Just don't NK doc.

[damo666]

Starting the catchup right now.

I am also well aware that my boosting into the QB position had some scum motivation behind it since I am notoriously bad with PRs and guns. Only successful interaction was when I shot Sweet on D1 a few games ago.

All you got to do is second guess who scum will target and watch that person. If they target that person and I happen to save them no NK and 3 quasi townclear.

Easy peasy.

[damo666]

Looking at D3 I/R votes if ghug is town at least one of sweet and glitter are scum, probably both.

Something to come back to. Is it worth the FLEX shot if we indeed have it?

With my track record?

[damo666]

Did Brain have a preferred method of contact for the PR role?

As in, ##watch target sent via PM? I didn't see anything about this on the first page.

PM or discord is fine

[BunnyGo]

Starting the catchup right now.

I am also well aware that my boosting into the QB position had some scum motivation behind it since I am notoriously bad with PRs and guns. Only successful interaction was when I shot Sweet on D1 a few games ago.

That’s why I took the gun and let you have the watcher.

Guess the kill and watch it!

[BunnyGo]

That seems unhealthy.

unhealthy in what way?

Automatically assuming Bunny is town because we voted for him is just bad logic.

Damo mathing bad

[BunnyGo]

In my defense, and to get you to walk back your opinion that I look worse, I really have not been giving thought to the implications of the WR roles. It's been a scramble to fill the rosters and I struggled with even getting my rosters set. When Brain gave me my first warning I didn't know why and then I looked at the setup to see where I could have gone wrong.

I don't think the WRs are as important to get right as the QB, FLEX, DST, TE.

I was saying you look worse only for trying to I/R bozo over Kak earlier in the phase. It had nothing to do with the WRs.

I've honestly put zero effort into the WR slots and consider them to be the a low priority slot.

They were in the early game, but they're going to start limiting our PR options going forward, so we need to be careful sticking townreads there.

If we’re putting town in PR roles, we’ll have the ability to put them there again…

The DST especially with their bodyguard.

[BunnyGo]

Did Brain have a preferred method of contact for the PR role?

As in, ##watch target sent via PM? I didn't see anything about this on the first page.

Probabilistic townslip?

(Assuming at least one scum have been PR)

[BunnyGo]

Did Brain have a preferred method of contact for the PR role?

As in, ##watch target sent via PM? I didn't see anything about this on the first page.

Probabilistic townslip?

(Assuming at least one scum have been PR)

I don’t see scum!Ham asking this performatively

[damo666]

1. No
2. Yes
3. How? When?
4. No
5. No
5 the 2nd. Possibly

Why do you think I was a more likely busser than Bunny?

I'm blindly assuming Bunny is town because he's Flex. I've not really analysed the 3 days votes since the flip. I must do so.

@Bunny I was just giving top of the head opinion on bozo's question then had to respond to ghug's critique. Bugger all to wiv maffs just meant I posting without sufficient analysis.