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Re: Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

#2341 Post by worcej » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:30 am

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:17 pm
worcej wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:15 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
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Would it?

Does it matter who shoots first?

And also how would scum know to try shooting the DST?
IDK, I just would never think to shoot the TE if I had the gun and am curious as hell why that makes more sense than the RB'ers
Damo said something similar and now I'm wondering if I'm missing something setup-wise.
The RBs have been the most interesting slot to pick for me this game. By my analysis, they are solely are best for putting scumleans in to these slots to make it harder for scum to perform their action.

If we can actually catch a scum, they become even stronger and can almost become ways to clear players from being scum if we can get the count of scum down to 2.

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Re: Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

#2342 Post by worcej » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:31 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:17 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:14 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:10 pm


That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking. Until then he was more firmly in POE
Why do you townread me so strongly?
Some mix of early posts by you when I started baiting the SUPERBUNNY stuff. I’ll dig up the post, but at the time I thought “no way scum!ghug EVER posts that” I’d even messaged the GT that I had a good guess how scum and town you would respond to that and you fit the town one.

Then the mech stuff. Scum ghug is unlikely to track bozo. Scum ghug would try to be more useful and guess the scum killer. Town!ghug would think more creatively like that to do something mostly useless but trying to get a townread on bozo.

Rest is general vibes with confirmation bias.
Why wouldn’t scum!ghug track bozo? Idk why that even makes it into this analysis.

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#2343 Post by worcej » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:40 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:26 pm
So I agree with Flum that we should focus on hunting more.

But I want to bring the following to attention to mull over (quietly…don’t derail the thread)

If we miskill today we’re at KiLo

In addition to needing to hit scum on our kill (with all town coalesced). We need all town coalesced on our PRs to assign them.

The super role is unlikely to happen after that.
I think the flex role needs to go to our most town read player and should be more of a focus subject in todays discussion than a super-powered player.

If we get the flex wrong (give it to a scum) and they get the gun, they could win during the night.

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Re: Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

#2344 Post by GlitterBomb » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:41 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:00 am
GlitterBomb wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:28 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:01 pm
Ghug style notes to focus my thoughts. Details on request or as I feel like posting them.

Townier (no particular order):

Bunny (ME!)
ghug
Sweet
Flum
Bozo

POE (from more null to more scumlean)

Kaka
Ham
Col7by
Worcej
Damo
Glitter
How am I reading as scummiest to you???? I didn’t vote in the player who caused us to lose another town. I wouldn’t hop onto a flash kill. I’ve formed my own opinions and have been feeling out my own people and I’ve also made sure to answer all of your questions as thoroughly as possible, so that’s scummy?! Make it make sense? I was excited that others wanted me to be a PR and decided to advocate for myself as that with a self-vote but sure, I was “passive” (don’t tell Brain I’ve been accused of being that! lol) I’m not emerging to a leadership role or telling everyone how to vote. I just don’t feel like I’m in a position to do that quite yet.
"Didn't vote in the player who shot a town" irrelevant.
"Didn't hop on the flash kill when we lost a town" definitely irrelevant!
"formed own opinions and feeling out people" that's good!
"Answered all my questions thoroughly" I dunno...I usually expect newbies who work in finance to tell me to fuck off more. When they're scum they try to do what I'm asking so that I don't suspect them.

The other big issues: You didn't break a tie on QB when you had the chance to give it to someone else. All you had to do was not vote for yourself and SOMEONE would have been watcher. It literally can't be worse than nobody (since scum can do no harm with it).

So yeah...scummy. I realize there's 4, and if I'm doing better than I normally do, then I've got 3-4 in my POE. But you're up there.
Ok then, fuck off!

But really, it’s not super in my nature to come into something and try to take it all in and be immediately assertive. When I feel like I know what I’m talking about, sure. I’ve explained the vote thing. I did not see the other votes come in. I immediately corrected my error when I noticed that. I would’ve had no problem taking my name off of the roster as qb if it was something that would benefit town which it would have if I’d have seen it. But I didn’t. My fault and I apologize. But that does not make me scum. And all of your other “irrelevant” things are super relevant to me, so it’s all opinions.

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Re: Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

#2345 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:43 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:31 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:17 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:14 pm


Why do you townread me so strongly?
Some mix of early posts by you when I started baiting the SUPERBUNNY stuff. I’ll dig up the post, but at the time I thought “no way scum!ghug EVER posts that” I’d even messaged the GT that I had a good guess how scum and town you would respond to that and you fit the town one.

Then the mech stuff. Scum ghug is unlikely to track bozo. Scum ghug would try to be more useful and guess the scum killer. Town!ghug would think more creatively like that to do something mostly useless but trying to get a townread on bozo.

Rest is general vibes with confirmation bias.
Why wouldn’t scum!ghug track bozo? Idk why that even makes it into this analysis.
scum!ghug would track a "scum read" of his, and then say "well...they didn't do anything. but that doesn't mean anything"
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#2346 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:43 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:40 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:26 pm
So I agree with Flum that we should focus on hunting more.

But I want to bring the following to attention to mull over (quietly…don’t derail the thread)

If we miskill today we’re at KiLo

In addition to needing to hit scum on our kill (with all town coalesced). We need all town coalesced on our PRs to assign them.

The super role is unlikely to happen after that.
I think the flex role needs to go to our most town read player and should be more of a focus subject in todays discussion than a super-powered player.

If we get the flex wrong (give it to a scum) and they get the gun, they could win during the night.
yup; good point.
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#2347 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:45 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:40 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:26 pm
So I agree with Flum that we should focus on hunting more.

But I want to bring the following to attention to mull over (quietly…don’t derail the thread)

If we miskill today we’re at KiLo

In addition to needing to hit scum on our kill (with all town coalesced). We need all town coalesced on our PRs to assign them.

The super role is unlikely to happen after that.
I think the flex role needs to go to our most town read player and should be more of a focus subject in todays discussion than a super-powered player.

If we get the flex wrong (give it to a scum) and they get the gun, they could win during the night.
They could also win during the night if we give it to a town, unfortunately, but yes.

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#2348 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:46 am

Bunny, what's your read on Colby at this point?

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#2349 Post by worcej » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:58 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:43 am
worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:31 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:17 pm


Some mix of early posts by you when I started baiting the SUPERBUNNY stuff. I’ll dig up the post, but at the time I thought “no way scum!ghug EVER posts that” I’d even messaged the GT that I had a good guess how scum and town you would respond to that and you fit the town one.

Then the mech stuff. Scum ghug is unlikely to track bozo. Scum ghug would try to be more useful and guess the scum killer. Town!ghug would think more creatively like that to do something mostly useless but trying to get a townread on bozo.

Rest is general vibes with confirmation bias.
Why wouldn’t scum!ghug track bozo? Idk why that even makes it into this analysis.
scum!ghug would track a "scum read" of his, and then say "well...they didn't do anything. but that doesn't mean anything"
I firmly disagree and think ghug’s track was NAI and being truthful on bozo as either town or scum does nothing to clear him.

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#2350 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:59 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:46 am
Bunny, what's your read on Colby at this point?
It's hard; he's running a large international conference at work this week; so I could believe he's honestly distracted.

He's faked townslips before at work (I think?) but certainly not with this repetitiveness.

So I'm certainly not towning him, but I'm confused between his lack of focus from real life or from scumminess/laziness. Or a combination thereof. I'm slightly leaning towards "real life".
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#2351 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:01 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:58 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:43 am
worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:31 am
Why wouldn’t scum!ghug track bozo? Idk why that even makes it into this analysis.
scum!ghug would track a "scum read" of his, and then say "well...they didn't do anything. but that doesn't mean anything"
I firmly disagree and think ghug’s track was NAI and being truthful on bozo as either town or scum does nothing to clear him.
I see you saying you think that.

What do you make of the scum's choice last night? Just trying to avoid my save or something else?

What do you make of Flum's new focus?
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#2352 Post by Col7by » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:24 am

How are ghug and bozo still in this game if they are supposedly some of the biggest gown reads for their N1? I think once if not both are scum

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#2353 Post by worcej » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:26 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:01 am
worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:58 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:43 am


scum!ghug would track a "scum read" of his, and then say "well...they didn't do anything. but that doesn't mean anything"
I firmly disagree and think ghug’s track was NAI and being truthful on bozo as either town or scum does nothing to clear him.
I see you saying you think that.

What do you make of the scum's choice last night? Just trying to avoid my save or something else?

What do you make of Flum's new focus?
I think trying to avoid you while keeping potential miskills in play was the goal. Killing non-PRs and keeping the TE player in play is probably the safest thing to do as scum to keep doubt present in our assessments.

I need more information from damo here before really passing firm judgement, but I don’t feel good about his choice of kill between either will or rdr. I would’ve much rather had sweet shot as he’s been scummed or even shooting kak to resolve the connections to D1 votes.

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#2354 Post by worcej » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:26 am

Col7by wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:24 am
How are ghug and bozo still in this game if they are supposedly some of the biggest gown reads for their N1? I think once if not both are scum
Can you elaborate further?

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#2355 Post by Col7by » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:30 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:26 am
Col7by wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:24 am
How are ghug and bozo still in this game if they are supposedly some of the biggest gown reads for their N1? I think once if not both are scum
Can you elaborate further?
People have just had them at the top of their town lists everywhere and their N1 actions have not been questioned. Then they still survive the night. Why would they still be alive if they were town?

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#2356 Post by Fluminator » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:32 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:30 pm
Fluminator wrote:
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I'm still not over Kak scumreading me for not voting him out day 1.
Oh that's why?

Sounds incredibly silly.
My reasoning, or what Kak thinks?

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#2357 Post by Fluminator » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:35 am

worcej wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:40 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:26 pm
So I agree with Flum that we should focus on hunting more.

But I want to bring the following to attention to mull over (quietly…don’t derail the thread)

If we miskill today we’re at KiLo

In addition to needing to hit scum on our kill (with all town coalesced). We need all town coalesced on our PRs to assign them.

The super role is unlikely to happen after that.
I think the flex role needs to go to our most town read player and should be more of a focus subject in todays discussion than a super-powered player.

If we get the flex wrong (give it to a scum) and they get the gun, they could win during the night.
I would love to have townreads right now. Must be nice.

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#2358 Post by Fluminator » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:38 am

Bozo, when you read this, the time has come to claim what you did. I didn't consider we were potentially in kilo if we get the flex wrong.

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#2359 Post by ghug » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:38 am

Col7by wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:24 am
How are ghug and bozo still in this game if they are supposedly some of the biggest gown reads for their N1? I think once if not both are scum
Maybe you didn't kill us so you could say this.

I also don't think I'm that widely townread. Bozo a little more.

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#2360 Post by Fluminator » Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:40 am

Col7by wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:24 am
How are ghug and bozo still in this game if they are supposedly some of the biggest gown reads for their N1? I think once if not both are scum
There have only been two nightkills so far, and they were immune or likely immune for one of them.
Would be nice if damo would come online and confirm which one was the 2nd nightkill.

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