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[worcej]

@glitterbomb

Bussing is a scum act of voting a fellow scum teammate

Got it, thanks. Google literally said “we have no results for bus mafia but here’s a history of buses”!!!

Also noting, every post by damo (who is very active) is negotiating with bozo/ghug to try and gain the FLEX power. Or appearing helpful.

Pot meet kettle?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

HAMS ROSTER

1 QB 1 ghug
2 RB 1 worcej
3 RB 2 sweet
4 WR 1 rdr
5 WR 2 Brian
6 TE Kak
7 FLEX damo
8 D/ST Bunny
9 K Col7by
10 I/R Bona

This is like the most perfectly safe, sterile, non controversial list I could possibly make. Like hes trying to stay out the spotlight

[BunnyGo]

Got it, thanks. Google literally said “we have no results for bus mafia but here’s a history of buses”!!!

Also noting, every post by damo (who is very active) is negotiating with bozo/ghug to try and gain the FLEX power. Or appearing helpful.

Pot meet kettle?

No. There's a big difference if you go read damo's Day 2 and Night 2. It's not that much.

[BunnyGo]

HAMS ROSTER

1 QB 1 ghug
2 RB 1 worcej
3 RB 2 sweet
4 WR 1 rdr
5 WR 2 Brian
6 TE Kak
7 FLEX damo
8 D/ST Bunny
9 K Col7by
10 I/R Bona

This is like the most perfectly safe, sterile, non controversial list I could possibly make. Like hes trying to stay out the spotlight

what about it seems sterile to you as opposed to say rdr trying to copy the current status to prevent ties?

What about this roster would you not expect town!Ham to have posted? Bunny in DST? Something else?

[Col7by]

HAMS ROSTER

1 QB 1 ghug
2 RB 1 worcej
3 RB 2 sweet
4 WR 1 rdr
5 WR 2 Brian
6 TE Kak
7 FLEX damo
8 D/ST Bunny
9 K Col7by
10 I/R Bona

This is like the most perfectly safe, sterile, non controversial list I could possibly make. Like hes trying to stay out the spotlight

HB said they were trying to sheep their biggest town reads so outwardly said playing it safe

[rdrivera2005]

Deadline is now or in one hour,

@rdr can you explain to me how much you'd read by here? Did you know the current vote status? Did you have reads/thoughts/concerns? Did you have PR opinions? Were you mostly concerned about not getting modkilled?

I was concerned with being modkilled, I just cut and paste brain vote tally (and it wasi invalid), so I knew the vote status. I haven't read anything after my last (and I think only) post of the day before that.

I will post my reads, just need to write them. My opinion on PR I already gave, we need to choose towny and competent players. We don't need a town hero that shoot the other PR or didn't save the other one trying to outguess scum. If we choose the same, it isn't a big deal. And rotating just for the sake of rotating is a bad idea

[Hamilton Brian]

I was going to tunnel the fucj out of ghug today if bona flipped mafia but imnot sure

Ghug is scummy independently of bonas alignment but i frankly have no idea how the fuck we messed up so badly with the QB

Tunnel ghug if Bonea=mafia?

Wouldn't the converse make more sense? Bona flipped town, so we should be scrutinizing the bona voters?

[rdrivera2005]

Also, Damo as Flex is something I don't like, I totally want to change this but don't want a tie. Is someone counting the votes?

@rdr

Can you walk me through your dislike of damo as FLEX? Had you read the thread up till here? Why single out damo for this?

I think Damo is scum, giving a possible Vig shot to scum is pretty bad.

[Col7by]

What are "thugs crumbs"? Can you make a post with bullet points elaborating on all the things you seem to be winking at but not saying?

I was told explicitly by ghug not to reveal my thoughts. That post seemed pretty important and I need to go back to it because I think ghug said if bozo didn’t reveal they would but crumbed who it was. Can’t remember exactly tho

why tf could any of that possibly matter?

Was ghug LYING about what he did N1?

Do you think ghug has ACTUAL intel on something besides tracking bozo?

Do you think bozo has actual intel on having watched or saved someone targeted and DIDN'T tell us?!

If not...it's all a big nothing burger and I'd like you to elaborate on your thought progression.

Great questions that’s why I think it would be good. There is literally no reason to hide the info unless you have info. Then if you have info you have to strategically reveal it. At the minimum you can catch someone in a lot of bozo says something and ghug has different info. Maybe they could be hiding intel but we don’t know yet. What is the point of leaving crumbs if you’re never going to use them. Feels fishy

[Hamilton Brian]

My theory (without rereading yet) is that most of the mafia were either on glitterbomb or ghug, not spread evenly. I would say the people who didnt pick glitter or ghug to be QB are most likely town

I think this is baseless and haphazard.

I think most of the mafia were on Bunny for DST. (I don't; I am just using it as an example.)

[bozotheclown]

At this point I think bozo needs to say what they know in the case they die over night. If not I’m gonna guess they’re scum and start by putting them on I/R. If ghug doesn’t say anything either I’m gonna assume they’re signed both as scum

I don't know anything.

[Kakarroto]

having skimmed over what I've missed that all could've gone much better. I really dislike the try to powergrab of bozo and ghug, but I think, ghug wouldn't do this as mafia here. I think bozo however was very pleased with the tie and didn't move on purpose. Will looks fine too and I'm pretty sure we have obvtown bunny.

I know I haven't done much, and I wanted to be here yesterday, but in the morning I just didn't got out of bed (too much rain and cold) and then I got a call from a friend who needed help with the flood. Contrary to me, he lives next to the river and this time the water went over. So sorry, partly my fault for being lazy in the mornign, but I hope you understand.

Well anyway, I am satisfied with bunny being save today. I would've much prefered to kick the ball, but if you don't give me that, I'm fine to be the protector of our bunny. Guess that was at least one smart choice you made. We can't have a tie in the future though, at least for the three major roles of qb flex and dst. If I'm around, I'm willing to untie, even when I'm not getting my prefered choice, and I promise I try not to hog the bed too much. Today I'll be helping again a bit, though I think it will be mostly emotional support. I think that should be fine with it being night? But expect more from me in the following days, if I'm not the shield for bunny here. I'm sure bunny is town, and I think ghug and will probably too. Be very careful of bozo, and don't let the autocrats dictate the day. Believe in your reads and make yourself heard. And if you survive long enough into the endgame, ask yourself: 'why am I still alive?'

With that I'm out and see you tomorrow, hopefully

[Col7by]

what info do you expect to get?

We can catch people lying about stuff when they share what they know or see people’s strategies actually matter. Consolidate it on one or two people without knowing they are town and we are screwed

Walk me through that.

Give me a detailed example of (say) scum!kaka as Watcher or scum!damo as FLEX or scum!Bunny as Doctor getting caught in lies.

What did they ACTUALLY do

What did they SAY they did

What lies do you catch that having them as scum PRs set them up

If they are scum and get vig shot we can really hound them on why they shot that person and following other reasoning throughout to see if it a purposeful miskill. Maybe if someone is a watcher as scum and watches someone else we can find out if the scum said they watched someone when they didn’t. Could catch them in lies. Scum only want the power to keep it away from the town not because they actually need it. So if we give it to them it also can lead to us getting info from finding out they need to waste it

[BunnyGo]

I was told explicitly by ghug not to reveal my thoughts. That post seemed pretty important and I need to go back to it because I think ghug said if bozo didn’t reveal they would but crumbed who it was. Can’t remember exactly tho

why tf could any of that possibly matter?

Was ghug LYING about what he did N1?

Do you think ghug has ACTUAL intel on something besides tracking bozo?

Do you think bozo has actual intel on having watched or saved someone targeted and DIDN'T tell us?!

If not...it's all a big nothing burger and I'd like you to elaborate on your thought progression.

Great questions that’s why I think it would be good. There is literally no reason to hide the info unless you have info. Then if you have info you have to strategically reveal it. At the minimum you can catch someone in a lot of bozo says something and ghug has different info. Maybe they could be hiding intel but we don’t know yet. What is the point of leaving crumbs if you’re never going to use them. Feels fishy

I MEAN YOU!!

why can you not answer a question in a way that is actually explaining what is going through your head?! You're better than this! Please provide answers to the questions put to you.

[bozotheclown]

ghug to QB is possible but I think bunny is beyond catching as doc

We had the votes to get BunnyGo out of the doctor role, why were you so insistent on keeping him there?

I thought he was home and dry and ghug said he was voting there and bunny's day 1 voting was ok

ghug did not say that until the last 24 minutes.

[bozotheclown]

As ghug crumbed.

With me on 4 for Flex and sweet 5 for RB2 from 8 rosters? What I was really asking is are you satisfied with the way they are going (Flex and QB in particular).

I think I know where ghug indicated that, because I know who I targeted. I am not sure if you are looking at the right post.

I am OK with FLEX but not QB.

@bozo: I'm curious how you differently value these powers and how to assign them

I watched and protected 2 players I thought might be NKed. I thought the mafia would want to eliminate one of the players who was interested in coordinating the PR voting, and I think Jamie was one of those, but unfortunately not one I chose to target.

[BunnyGo]

We can catch people lying about stuff when they share what they know or see people’s strategies actually matter. Consolidate it on one or two people without knowing they are town and we are screwed

Walk me through that.

Give me a detailed example of (say) scum!kaka as Watcher or scum!damo as FLEX or scum!Bunny as Doctor getting caught in lies.

What did they ACTUALLY do

What did they SAY they did

What lies do you catch that having them as scum PRs set them up

If they are scum and get vig shot we can really hound them on why they shot that person and following other reasoning throughout to see if it a purposeful miskill. Maybe if someone is a watcher as scum and watches someone else we can find out if the scum said they watched someone when they didn’t. Could catch them in lies. Scum only want the power to keep it away from the town not because they actually need it. So if we give it to them it also can lead to us getting info from finding out they need to waste it

But there's NO REASON to lie!

"I scumread them so I shot them" is an easy lie to set up. For the rest:

"I watched someone who wasn't the nightkill"

"I watched someone the tracker visited...I can happily confirm they did what they said"

"I saved my best guess as to the night kill"

WHY LIE?!

[BunnyGo]

I think I know where ghug indicated that, because I know who I targeted. I am not sure if you are looking at the right post.

I am OK with FLEX but not QB.

@bozo: I'm curious how you differently value these powers and how to assign them

I watched and protected 2 players I thought might be NKed. I thought the mafia would want to eliminate one of the players who was interested in coordinating the PR voting, and I think Jamie was one of those, but unfortunately not one I chose to target.

That doesn't answer my question in the slightest, but is good insight.

In addition to my original question; what's your opinion on a COMBINED watcher/healer using both on the same player vs. spreading them around?

[Fluminator]

I am mildly concerned that despite me leaving a way for people to get in touch with me, NOBODY used it except for a joke despite at least TWO players thinking that I was going to get modkilled.

That is VERY disturbing!

I am sorry that I was inconsiderate with its use. I just wanted to let you know I was thinking about you.

Didn't mind the jokes at all; I knew what you were doing.

Do you not find it disturbing that neither bozo nor Flum nor anyone else thinking I might be modkilled used it?

I said you weren't going to be modkilled. I was right.

[rdrivera2005]

Considering my lack of posting yesterday, I think I should give my current view on the game:

My townpool is currently Bozo, Ghug, Hamilton and Bunny.
Bozo not only because of the mech, but I see Bozo trying to solve, something he usually didn't do as scum.
Ghug because of his views of the game that resonate with me. This is weak, because Ghug is good as scum, but this is what I feel.
Hamilton made some posts that I don't think scum Hamilton does (and Ghug has pointed it out before). Also, I don't think I ever saw scum Ham make this kind of an effort.
Bunny because I don't think scum Bunny would try to powerwolf this way in this game. Also, his posts about Damo but this could be confirmation bias.

My scumpool is Sweet, Glitter and Damo.
Damo D1 looks a lot like scum Damo to me. He improved after this, but the tie last phase didn't help either. My bones are telling me and they are usually right.
Glitter might have scumslipped, I think Bozo already pointed it. Also, I feel her reads are forced, it seems like she needs to find something to scumread people.
Sweet is just a general feeling he isn't giving a shit to the game, something town Sweet usually didn't do. His post about the rosters and not changing close to EOD feels like a completely fake thing.

The others are just a big pile of nulls, mostly because of low activity and Flum, that I feel I can't sort, and this time my bones aren't telling me anything about him (only about Damo).