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[bozotheclown]

##VOTE sweetandcool

I already had doubt about this slot when PE subbed out, but I don't think sweetandcool was consistent with how much of the game he had claimed to read during D1, and I find it hard to believe sweetandcool would not look at the setup until there were 20 minutes left in D1.

Do you think this is scum!sweet lying to us about being caught up? Scum!sweet avoiding catching up? Or just sweet busy with life subbing in?

I do not doubt sweetandcool is busy and was having trouble catching up, but I think as mafia he would have reason to hide how much he had read.

If sweetandcool subbed into this game as town and read the portion of the game he said he read and did not look at the setup, my expectation of how sweetandcool would play the game is off, which I suppose is possible.

[BunnyGo]

@Col7by what is your first language?

Math, I bet

Zoomer English

[bozotheclown]

Final

##official roster

Qb sweet (want bozo but voting) someone else to avoid ties
Rb 1 bunny
Rb2 bona
Wr1 HamB
Wr2 Flum
Te worcej (no ties)
Flex ghug
DST bozo (no ties)
K glitter
I/R kaka

Why did you choose Kakarroto over TFB for the DK vote?

I had no reason to want to vote TFB; kaka’s posts didn’t seem like the town!kaka I know. But at this point I’m actually just worried about our friend not showing up.

You said Kakarroto's "posts", but at the time you entered that roster, Kakarroto had only posted once. Can you elaborate on how that one post differed from what you would expect from Kakarroto as town?

[bozotheclown]

This aged very badly and wasn’t great at the time. @Flum were you townreading kak for a particular reason?

Hoe do you know if this was good or bad without knowing Kakarroto's alignment?

It aged badly regardless of alignment.

Can you explain what made it worse that you thought it was originally?

[bozotheclown]

Scum wouldn't have had much time to react so probably a coincidence.

If you saw ghug visit Jamie I expect he was tracking.

Even if ghug was the only one I saw visit Jamie?

No. But you didn't did you?

That was the question I asked, though.

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE Col7

I think we should make the TE someone else we'd like to kill. I felt similarly yesterday.

I townread ham and bozo and damo.

That's a good idea

##VOTE Bozo

Did it yesterday and still think it too:

##vote worcej

[Col7by]

I like what bozo is doing since they were the QB but also this questioning without content would typically go in my scum bucket. I really hope you’re getting good analysis here.

[BunnyGo]

Hoe do you know if this was good or bad without knowing Kakarroto's alignment?

It aged badly regardless of alignment.

Can you explain what made it worse that you thought it was originally?

The fact he has acknowledged he wanted to avoid flipping more people (mod flip and voting). The fact that TFB was town. The fact that he was SUCCESSFUL at saving kaka.

[bozotheclown]

I'm assuming this was GM confirmed?

Yes, the setup does not say the watcher can't self watch, so I assume that is a standard watcher limitation that I was not aware.

I am reading the setup differently; "Can the doctor self save?
No. The doctor may not self save

Can the watcher try to watch themself?
No
And the tracker cant track themself"

Where do you see it the setup where the watcher can't self watch?

[BunnyGo]

Back from long day of parties. Now to stack wood. Warms 3 times…

[BunnyGo]

Yes, the setup does not say the watcher can't self watch, so I assume that is a standard watcher limitation that I was not aware.

I am reading the setup differently; "Can the doctor self save?
No. The doctor may not self save

Can the watcher try to watch themself?
No
And the tracker cant track themself"

Where do you see it the setup where the watcher can't self watch?

GM has clarified that

[bozotheclown]

I like what bozo is doing since they were the QB but also this questioning without content would typically go in my scum bucket. I really hope you’re getting good analysis here.

What do you mean by "without content"?

[Col7by]

I like what bozo is doing since they were the QB but also this questioning without content would typically go in my scum bucket. I really hope you’re getting good analysis here.

What do you mean by "without content"?

Asking a lot of questions but haven’t provided any insights or opinions just questioning people. Like signaling helpfulness

[bozotheclown]

I am reading the setup differently; "Can the doctor self save?
No. The doctor may not self save

Can the watcher try to watch themself?
No
And the tracker cant track themself"

Where do you see it the setup where the watcher can't self watch?

GM has clarified that

Hamilton sat he was "reading the setup differently". Where was it clarified?

[bozotheclown]

I like what bozo is doing since they were the QB but also this questioning without content would typically go in my scum bucket. I really hope you’re getting good analysis here.

What do you mean by "without content"?

Asking a lot of questions but haven’t provided any insights or opinions just questioning people. Like signaling helpfulness

I don't think it is accurate to say that I have not provided any opinions.

[Col7by]

What do you mean by "without content"?

Asking a lot of questions but haven’t provided any insights or opinions just questioning people. Like signaling helpfulness

I don't think it is accurate to say that I have not provided any opinions.

I think this day pause they have been limited compared to the previous day and I think others have provided much clearer stances. You for sure have the most power in the game right now so just keeping an eye out your actions more than others

[bozotheclown]

It aged badly regardless of alignment.

Can you explain what made it worse that you thought it was originally?

The fact he has acknowledged he wanted to avoid flipping more people (mod flip and voting). The fact that TFB was town. The fact that he was SUCCESSFUL at saving kaka.

Fluminator acknowledged that he was avoiding DKing Kakarroto at the time, and he also made the DK vote 5-3 instead of 4-4 with 3 minute left, with made saving Kakarroto very likely at the time. TFB was going to be eliminated either way, so I don't think his alignment is significant. Therefore, I don't understand why you think it looks worse now regardless of Kakarroto's alignment.

It seems to me that if Kakarroto is town, Fluminator's switch to TFB looks good, because the mafia would have preferred 3 town be eliminated, but if Kakarroto is mafia, it looks bad, because Kakarroto was at risk of being DKed.

[bozotheclown]

Asking a lot of questions but haven’t provided any insights or opinions just questioning people. Like signaling helpfulness

I don't think it is accurate to say that I have not provided any opinions.

I think this day pause they have been limited compared to the previous day and I think others have provided much clearer stances. You for sure have the most power in the game right now so just keeping an eye out your actions more than others

I don't think I have any more power than anyone else.

[Hamilton Brian]

@bozo, here in this post from Brain.

SampleRole PMs

You are a member of the mafia. You win when the town is eliminated. At night you may have a team member perform a factional kill. By day you must submit a roster by using ##official roster.
Each slot in that roster must be filled, you may self vote yourself for any slot. You may not have any duplicate entries. You may submit a roster a second time during the day if you wish for any changes youd like to make. The person in the I/R slot will be removed from the game.

You are a member of the town. You win when the mafia is eliminated. By day you must submit a roster by using ##official roster.
Each slot in that roster must be filled, you may self vote yourself for any slot. You may not have any duplicate entries. You may submit a roster a second time during the day if you wish for any changes youd like to make. The person in the I/R slot will be removed from the game.

———-
More Setup explanation

Qa
What happens if every single slot is a tie even the I/R

Then the day ends in a tie with no one dying and no one getting any powers that night.


What happens if someone is both Roleblock slots?
Then they get roleblocked twice.


What happens if someone doesnt submit a valid roster
Modkill

What happens if someone just votes the same way as someone else
Then they vote the same way as someone else did and increase odds those rosters reach majority

What should I be doing as town?
Trying to find the mafia and vote them into the RB and I/R positions

what should I be doing as mafia?
trying to not die, and blend in with town enough to survive and win the game

What should I be doing with the QB slot?
Whatever you want, whoever you think would make a good watcher

What should I be doing with the kicker?
Whoever you dont want to be in the flex next phase, since flex has a gun possibly, should go in as K.

Does an unused vest from being in the flex carry over?
no it expires end of that night


Can the doctor self save?
No. The doctor may not self save

Can the watcher try to watch themself?
No
And the tracker cant track themself

If the mafia get multiple slots can one individual carry out multiple night actions?
Yes. A mafia member can perform a factional kill and carry out all other pertinent actions they earned provided they werent roleblocked.

If I was not voted into one of the ten positions what happens?
Nothing happens. You may still perform a nightkill as mafia but if town you have no actions.

Once there are less then 10 players what happens with extra slots?
You may selectively leave slots empty once the game is less than ten players.

If the game is in kilo how can mafia win?
Same as any other game, by not being eliminated or
Roleblocked.

[Hamilton Brian]

I am thinking that cycling players is a good strategy, avoiding people less towntrusted getting into PR positions.

Not sure I want to see bozo back in the QB role yet.

QB: damo or worcej or ghug
FLEX: bozo

I don't think it's a good idea to put someone in that Flex position who's already stated, "If I had a gun, I'll shoot ______." I think that's cover for mafia. Maybe. I don't know, but I think it needs to be covert.

DST: ghug, although if he shot Jamie...bad instincts so far.