Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

I'll ask it anyway.

Since none of us are technically PRs, is there any harm in reporting results during D2?

Slight, yes.

Nobody is going to be locking in votes early.

But if a tracker/watcher sees something and reports it immediately, then they take away a day of reactions and reads from us. Better to wait until sometime in the second 24 hours to report it.

There's no chance of a CC or anything and no chance of a hammer; only question is if the PR is town or scum. So better to let us get some natural reads first before giving us the mech info.

I stand corrected. BunnyGo's response to this question is much more sensible than my own initial reaction.

Good thinking Bunny, you're right about this, I'm sure.

[BunnyGo]

having seen the other 3 replies now, I stand by mine as the correct answer.

But are you suggesting something is weird with the other responses? And if so, what?

No; it's what I expected people to say. I just think they're wrong on the timing of it. Would rather scum worry for 24-36 hours about whether they've been tracked/watched whatnot.

[Jamiet99uk]

having seen the other 3 replies now, I stand by mine as the correct answer.

But are you suggesting something is weird with the other responses? And if so, what?

I don't think we were being weird; I think we had failed to see the nuances that Bunny correctly identifies.

A very early reveal risks reducing the information to be gained, as Bunny said.
But a reveal at some point later in the day (perhaps just after the halfway mark) is essential.

[Jamiet99uk]

having seen the other 3 replies now, I stand by mine as the correct answer.

But are you suggesting something is weird with the other responses? And if so, what?

No; it's what I expected people to say. I just think they're wrong on the timing of it. Would rather scum worry for 24-36 hours about whether they've been tracked/watched whatnot.

In fact, now you've pointed this out, I would go further.

I would say that everyone should be asked to give an @@Official Vote before the 24 hour mark, and that any Watcher or Tracker results should not be declared until that point in time.

Then, after 24hrs, if most people have complied with this strategy, then results should be declared.

And if people are very reluctant to go along with this, I would be suspicious of them.

[BunnyGo]

But are you suggesting something is weird with the other responses? And if so, what?

No; it's what I expected people to say. I just think they're wrong on the timing of it. Would rather scum worry for 24-36 hours about whether they've been tracked/watched whatnot.

In fact, now you've pointed this out, I would go further.

I would say that everyone should be asked to give an @@Official Vote before the 24 hour mark, and that any Watcher or Tracker results should not be declared until that point in time.

Then, after 24hrs, if most people have complied with this strategy, then results should be declared.

And if people are very reluctant to go along with this, I would be suspicious of them.

Maybe? An ##unofficial one for sure makes sense.

I think if we use the ##vote mechanism that may be enough.

I'd just hate to have everyone already down to just one vote left after half the phase.

[ghug]

Frankly, I think bozo and I know what we're doing and adding a little mystery to how we might reveal is good idea.

That said, I'll be revealing instantly. Jamie, you have a couple hours to convince me not to shoot you.

[sweetandcool]

Frankly, I think bozo and I know what we're doing and adding a little mystery to how we might reveal is good idea.

That said, I'll be revealing instantly. Jamie, you have a couple hours to convince me not to shoot you.

It would be hilarious if you weren't told which ability you received for the night

[sweetandcool]

Just read through Ham's ISO.

Ham, how are you feeling about this game? Excited, confused?

[Col7by]

Frankly, I think bozo and I know what we're doing and adding a little mystery to how we might reveal is good idea.

That said, I'll be revealing instantly. Jamie, you have a couple hours to convince me not to shoot you.

lol

I could help advise you not to (assuming that’s what you randomed?)

[sweetandcool]

Ok so why? We just trust at face value that you’re town and vote you in the best roles?

Bunny is my Maine mensch. However, this gung ho approach..."pick me coach! pick me coach!" rings desperate. Playing with Bunny though, I want to give him a starting chance to see how it goes. Pull him next lineup if it goes bad.

I suspect this is bunny trying to make obvious town because this would be a pretty poor scum play

Bunny + Colby?

[brainbomb]

GM Note

Because it was not specified in a role PM or otherwise the following rulings should be considered standard or I hope this is the most common webdip version of this:

If a person survives an attack they learn they were attacked
This includes a vested person

And docsaved indivudal

The doctor will learn they survived if the TE dies acting as their bodyguard

The doctor will learn the person they tried to save survived an attack

[Fluminator]

But are you suggesting something is weird with the other responses? And if so, what?

No; it's what I expected people to say. I just think they're wrong on the timing of it. Would rather scum worry for 24-36 hours about whether they've been tracked/watched whatnot.

In fact, now you've pointed this out, I would go further.

I would say that everyone should be asked to give an @@Official Vote before the 24 hour mark, and that any Watcher or Tracker results should not be declared until that point in time.

Then, after 24hrs, if most people have complied with this strategy, then results should be declared.

And if people are very reluctant to go along with this, I would be suspicious of them.

I can't tell if your hypocrisy is genuine or scummy.

[ghug]

Frankly, I think bozo and I know what we're doing and adding a little mystery to how we might reveal is good idea.

That said, I'll be revealing instantly. Jamie, you have a couple hours to convince me not to shoot you.

lol

I could help advise you not to (assuming that’s what you randomed?)

Advise away.

[brainbomb]

GM Note
Also I was asked are scum are allowed to holster kills
Yes. The mafia are not required to perform a nightkill.

[sweetandcool]

Yeah. Not a fan of Colby's game so far, but given that I don't know how to read them and I don't have a full picture of the game, it's just an impression.

[sweetandcool]

##call GM
If a player is tied for two roles - let’s say QB and flex - what happens?

Any tie for a role => no role.

Any individual player can be more than one role.

You’re not the GM and if that second line is true, then the setup is fundamentally bungled because no one player can be multiple roles on a football field.

I agree with this, but I also don't want to hurt brain bomb's feelies.

We will just consider this FANTASY football. Anybody who fills more than one role I am imagining is a hulking juggernaut of a person.

Bozo is currently too swole to control :D

[sweetandcool]

Because if only one person has all the power and tells me a bunch of info, i wont know if its true until that one person dies. And if they’re towned enough to be the superpower person, i think its unlikely we will kill them.

I am also of a similar mindset here as a scum player being towned and put into all 3 powers can be devastating.

I also feel like it changes the game from finding scum players to choosing a “super hero” each day phase and counting on that one person to execute to generate information and having to trust them explicitly.

Yeah I agree with this. As a point of honour I am going to make sure a person only fills one role.

I am sick of us playing games purely focused on mechs. We should hunt, not be breaking setups or bunching our underwear stressing over mechs.

[Col7by]

Frankly, I think bozo and I know what we're doing and adding a little mystery to how we might reveal is good idea.

That said, I'll be revealing instantly. Jamie, you have a couple hours to convince me not to shoot you.

lol

I could help advise you not to (assuming that’s what you randomed?)

Advise away.

I think Jamie has had some scum tendencies but feels like normal Jamie behavior. I think other have displayed more scummy behavior and are worth taking a shot at (those of the people trying to gain control)
Of those I think damo, bozo, bunny.
I think of that group bozo is my most likely scum

[Col7by]

Yeah. Not a fan of Colby's game so far, but given that I don't know how to read them and I don't have a full picture of the game, it's just an impression.

Let me help fill me in

[sweetandcool]

worcej seems very authentic, but alignment is null. Still, saying lots of things I like.

I do disagree about the super player idea.

I suspect it breaks the setup in Town's favour. It also morally offends me.

I don't think touting it is scummy at all, it just seems like common sense to me.

However, it does give me strong flashbacks to the last game Bozo broke where he was scum and felt self conscious enough that he couldn't resist suggesting the optimal plan for Town to win.