Mafia Olympics - Final Medal Game - Confirmation Thread

[brainbomb]

I fundamentally don't get what the point of this game's central mechanic is.

I'll be honest.

A chess game between two sides to both choose a majority roster that sidelines the mafia or for mafia to embed oneself into the roster choices effectively and render the setup unhelpful to town in the process. Town will strive to only have a majority of solidly town players in good slots

Again I cant offer setup advice but thats the chess match

[brainbomb]

Do we just want a different setup? Like honestly if its this much drama just tell me in dm you want a new setup

[Jamiet99uk]

I fundamentally don't get what the point of this game's central mechanic is.

I'll be honest.

A chess game between two sides to both choose a majority roster that sidelines the mafia or for mafia to embed oneself into the roster choices effectively and render the setup unhelpful to town in the process. Town will strive to only have a majority of solidly town players in good slots

Again I cant offer setup advice but thats the chess match

But, whatever roles the Mafia get, they still have a NK?

So the mafia are only "sidelined" if Town collectively guesses exactly correct, right?

[brainbomb]

Just to say that I didn't understand the setup but will play anyway if the game is still going on.

The game will still happen it just might have a new setup it depends on what people think. If people absolutely hate the setup and dont understand it ive got three other options that are pretty fun.

[brainbomb]

I fundamentally don't get what the point of this game's central mechanic is.

I'll be honest.

A chess game between two sides to both choose a majority roster that sidelines the mafia or for mafia to embed oneself into the roster choices effectively and render the setup unhelpful to town in the process. Town will strive to only have a majority of solidly town players in good slots

Again I cant offer setup advice but thats the chess match

But, whatever roles the Mafia get, they still have a NK?

So the mafia are only "sidelined" if Town collectively guesses exactly correct, right?

Again where were all these questions and concerns when you were part of the team that organized this event and we all gave each other feedback in the chats. Where were these talking points clearly meant to erase peoples interest in playing and casting massive shade on the setup right before the game starts. Youve had almost 2 months to look at the setup and voice these comments. Only now last minute youre actively seeking to destroy everyones excitement

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

We should add a GM who can trade one person’s I/R with another player on their roster

[rdrivera2005]

Just to say that I didn't understand the setup but will play anyway if the game is still going on.

The game will still happen it just might have a new setup it depends on what people think. If people absolutely hate the setup and dont understand it ive got three other options that are pretty fun.

I don't have any problems with setup now I read the entire thread, I thought it has something to do with American football, which I don't have a clue om how it works.

[Jamiet99uk]

A chess game between two sides to both choose a majority roster that sidelines the mafia or for mafia to embed oneself into the roster choices effectively and render the setup unhelpful to town in the process. Town will strive to only have a majority of solidly town players in good slots

Again I cant offer setup advice but thats the chess match

But, whatever roles the Mafia get, they still have a NK?

So the mafia are only "sidelined" if Town collectively guesses exactly correct, right?

Again where were all these questions and concerns when you were part of the team that organized this event and we all gave each other feedback in the chats. Where were these talking points clearly meant to erase peoples interest in playing and casting massive shade on the setup right before the game starts. Youve had almost 2 months to look at the setup and voice these comments. Only now last minute youre actively seeking to destroy everyones excitement

I have not spent the last 2-3 months doing that; I'm not a formal member of the Council anymore, and I've asked you a basic question about the balance of your setup.

Calm down and think: is this a balanced setup?

[brainbomb]

Yes. Moving on, if you want my other setup I have three others send me a DM. Otherwise im not gonna keep discussing the vagaries of what you think balance means.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes. Moving on, if you want my other setup I have three others send me a DM. Otherwise im not gonna keep discussing the vagaries of what you think balance means.

I am asking reasonable incoming questions as a player to your American Football game.

You've invented a very non-standard mechanic whereby the Mafia know which Town have PR actions.

You must have considered whether this is balanced or not.

I am just asking for you to confirm that you've thought about that, really. I trust that you have.

I think this is a really basic, simple, friendly query.

[ghug]

I cant answer a vague question claiming the setup isnt balanced when you arent saying what actually makes it imbalanced.

The mafia knowing who has what powers each night doesnt matter as they have no idea what those people will do with those powers

They can choose which PR they want to kill.

Normally town has incentive to protect their PRs because if a PR dies they lose both their power and a unique role that's easy to clear.

In this game, neither of those matter. You kill the doctor? Ok, we'll be electing a new doctor tomorrow anyway.

[Jamiet99uk]

I ##QUIT this game.

I am not participating.

[brainbomb]

I cant answer a vague question claiming the setup isnt balanced when you arent saying what actually makes it imbalanced.

The mafia knowing who has what powers each night doesnt matter as they have no idea what those people will do with those powers

They can choose which PR they want to kill.

Normally town has incentive to protect their PRs because if a PR dies they lose both their power and a unique role that's easy to clear.

In this game, neither of those matter. You kill the doctor? Ok, we'll be electing a new doctor tomorrow anyway.

Exactly all of this. There are no permanent PR in this game. And each slot is determined by majority

So once every roster has been submitted there will be a final
Tally for each position and whoever earned the most votes fills that slot.

If you get the most votes to be QB; youre QB THAT night
If you get most votes to be TE youll be TE that night

If you get majority votes to be two things youll be both of those things at night.

If you tie with someone else for a slot that slot is null for that night

[brainbomb]

As was stated if you dont like the setup and want a new setup please do dm me as there is still time to change if enough people are concerned that this is a broken setup

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I like the setup, I think a solution could be that theres a non-self saving doctor role as the ‘manager’ or something like that

[brainbomb]

yea the Doc in this cant self save so my bad for not articulating it.

Alternate Setup 1
(If you like this let me know)

Neptune Colony, The Augmented Sanctuary

Town PR
Delmar
During the day choose a stat: posts, characters, words, words per post. The player with the lowest number in the stat chosen will die at end of day in addition to any day elimination.

Quincy
During the night you may choose a stat: posts, characters, words, words per post. The person with the most in the stat chosen during that night phase will be roleblocked.

Severin
During the night you may choose a stat: posts. Characters, words, words per post. The person with the most in the stat you have chosen will be doc saved that night. The person with the least in the stat you have chosen will also be doc saved that night

Raina
N0 choose a player. If you die that players alignment and role will be publicly revealed.
N1 you must choose a new player. If you die that players alignment and role will be revealed.
N2 you must choose a new player. If you die that players alignment and role will be revealed.
This continues every night same way.


Mafia PR
Marcus
During the day choose a stat: posts, characters, words, words per post. The player with the lowest stat chosen will be saved from death that day by elimination, and by data analyst. The player with the highest stat chosen will have their role revealed to you at end of the ensuing night phase. Once submitted this may not be changed during the night, however you may change this during a day.

Fisher (Power Thief)
During the night choose a stat: posts, characters, words, words per post. The player with the highest stat chosen will have their powers stolen indefinitely. If the player chosen was vanilla, you will become a vanilla goon, and upon death will appear as their alignment, and their role. If the player was a PR, you will appear as them upon death, and appear to be their role. After you have stolen someones powers you will change to be their role, but not their alignment. You will retain your alignment and original wincon, but still appear to be aligned with the town instead if revealed by any mechanical information. You original powers will be gone and you will no longer be a power theif. You may holster.

Asher (Stat Driver)
During the night choose two players. All stats for the two players chosen will be traded. Player A if subject to night actions will gain all pertinent stats of player B for that night only. Words, Posts, Characters, Words per Post. Player B will gain all of Player A’s stats for that night only: words, posts, character, words per post.

Hania the Poisoner (2 shot)
During the night you may choose a player. That player will be poisoned and will die midday the following day. That player may survive the poison the next day but only if they posted more than you during the first half of the ensuing day. The poison will not be announced, and the player who is poisoned will not learn they are poisoned.



The Anomaly
During the night you will survive a nightkill. On scans you will appear as mafia. On role cop scans you will appear as Vanilla Town. If poisoned, you will not survive it.
You may choose to join a side in the game if at any time you have ever had the most posts in a phase, and the least posts in a different phase. The most words in a phase and the least posts in a phase. The most characters in a phase, and the least characters in a phase. The most words per post in a phase, and the least words per post in a phase. You must fulfil all 8 to evolve. If you fail to evolve by Day 4 you will die at start of day.
Once you have achieved your ability to join a side; you may choose to join the town or the mafia. If you do not choose a side, and choose to try to win solo you will gain a nightkill action each night and your win status will be changed to that of a serial killer.

Wincons
Town must eliminate the mafia, and possibly a serial killer
Mafia must eliminate the town, and possible a serial killer
IF the anomaly chooses to remain solo,(not joining either side), they must end the game in the final 3 players and that will trigger an automatic solo win.


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Alternate Setup 2
Poisoners vs Arsonists
1 town poisoner
1 town arsonist
11 vt

vs
1 mafia arsonist
1 mafia poisoner
2 goons

[Col7by]

As was stated if you dont like the setup and want a new setup please do dm me as there is still time to change if enough people are concerned that this is a broken setup

I like this one very unique

[BunnyGo]

If you think carefully... you can see what is unique about this game. I am still convinced it has balance, workability, and will be fun.

I already told this to brain privately

[dargorygel]

Understandably, brainGM needs to avoid advice... but I am under no such restriction. Imagine scum team knows [as they will] that Fred is cop and Beatrice is doc. Scum can decide to nk one of them, but nothing is sure. They chose to kill the doc. The cop now gets off a scan. Perhaps useful. Perhaps not. The next day though, a new doc is chosen. Thus, for that day it is no worse or better than any games' nk.

Scum and town have many options and strategies to play with. Each day, a new set of PRs is selected. The dance occurs again. SOME nights yiu might have a Scum doc or cop.

It means so many options each day and night that in the end, balance waters down to 4 vs 13. No matter what. That's my take.

[dargorygel]

Scum has choices such as: screw the PRs, hit skilled folk. Or just random NK, hoping and expecting to win. PR elections. Or JUST play the PR game.