Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[bozotheclown]

I'm running a poker tournament this evening so this is probably my last post though I may sneak in on mob if I get the chance.

I am resigned to my fate.

For the townies on my wagon good luck, you know not what you do.

For the scum on my wagon Yaa Boo Sucks. You missed again. Three in a row.

I do not doubt that this is true, but you gave yourself an out and you were able to vote for peter at EOD.

What do you mean by missed again, are you saying you think scum are trying to lynch you because they think you are a PR?

[bozotheclown]

Currently I see no prospect of my survival so in accordance with my wincon

##Vote damo666

Balki please hurry and do a save post on me

Bozo - yes, by voting for myself. I thought that much stronger than simply saying 'I'm a VT'.

I am still not clear what you meant in your self voting post D1. If you are VT, why is it better for your wincon to self vote? Are you saying you thought the other top wagons were town and it was better to vote for yourself than risk voting for a town PR?

Precisely. I'd rather go as a VT than risk a town PR.

When you self voted, thdfrance was tied with DemonRHK at 4 votes for the next largest wagon after you. Why were you then willing to vote for thdfrance at EOD?

[flash2015]

And I am not going to just generate posts for the hell of it. I am too busy for that. This is why I chose to be a sub rather than joining into the game directly when I had the chance. I even asked Fox to only add me in if all other subs said no. Someone needed to sub in for Jamie before D1 was over. I was the only one available.

?!

Explain the ?!

[bozotheclown]

Even though I preferred to see damo lynched, I thought there was a good chance peter was scum, so I can believe peter's wagon was town driven. Obviously there had to be a number of town who thought peter was a better lynch than damo, and the same had to be true of thdfrance D1. However, it seems to me that the development of these wagons gave scum a chance to join in and help grow the wagons large enough to divert the lynch from someone else. DemonRHK and RagingIke were wagons both days as well, but damo was the one in imminent danger each day. On D2, damo had 7 votes four hours before EOD when no one else had more than 1 vote, so there was again intentional effort to save damo.

[bozotheclown]

This EOD is weird, we have Damo and so many different wagons with 2 votes.

If Demon isn't flying I am willing to vote on Ike. Not sure about Peter, bad play isn't always scum play and I remember him tunneling a lot as town. But I don't want to lynch Durga, still on a null to town read for me.

I don't think any scum was under much threat today... again.

Do you think this because you town read all of the top wagons, or is there something else?

[yavuzovic]

And I am not going to just generate posts for the hell of it. I am too busy for that. This is why I chose to be a sub rather than joining into the game directly when I had the chance. I even asked Fox to only add me in if all other subs said no. Someone needed to sub in for Jamie before D1 was over. I was the only one available.

?!

Explain the ?!

Why is someone needed to sub in for Jamie unless Jamie is (town/scum) PR?

[yavuzovic]

I mean, if he was just a goon or a town, they could wait longer since those roles have nothing to do during a night.

[damo666]

Ok my revised reads in format n/(100-n) where n is town %

Alpha order

Balki 80/20

His strong defence of me would be a very clever play as scum but assuming town.

Bozo 70/30

Has consistently voted me I think because he genuinely scumreads me. Towny posts.

bo_sox 80/20

Has shifted from me to another town both nights. Unlikely as scum

Damo 100/0

DemonRHK 70/30

Limited posts and voting look townish. Seems to be attracting lots of votes. Suggest you raise your game a tad. A bit of analysis perhaps?

DrCJG 50/50

Hard to get a handle

Durga 65/35

Day 2 sap from me to Peter unlikely to be a scum move

Ezio 50/50

at best

Flash 50/50

not a lot to go on, almost certainly VT or goon

ghug 85/15

sensible townish (if somewhat arrogant) posts & day 1 switch from me to thdfrance

ND 60/40

Consistently tunneling on me, probably genuine

Raging Ike 50/50

Unsure

rdr 55/45

shade above null

Squigs 50/50

consistent voting me could be genuine but there's something about his game that strikes me as a bit not normal

Vecna 55/45

was leaning 60/40 but his switch back to me slightly concerns but maybe he townread peter more than me

Worcej 80/20

Mainly due to his day 1 defence of me but I don't like his xorxes vote

Xorxes 90/10

Agree with virtually everything he says. Suspect he may be NK target, hope doc saves

Yav 50/50

Don't know what to make of him.

I suspect the scum team are within DrCJG, Flash, RagingIke, Squigs, Yav, Venca, rdr and possibly ND. I will be astonished if there not at least 4 scum in those 8. Unfortunately I cannot tell you which.

As a likely wagon tomorrow I expect to survive the night. If any of those 8 are a competing wagon let's consolidate on whichever has most votes. If none of the above are competing with me then vote me. I would not like to see any of the others lynched.

[damo666]

I'm running a poker tournament this evening so this is probably my last post though I may sneak in on mob if I get the chance.

I am resigned to my fate.

For the townies on my wagon good luck, you know not what you do.

For the scum on my wagon Yaa Boo Sucks. You missed again. Three in a row.

I do not doubt that this is true, but you gave yourself an out and you were able to vote for peter at EOD.

What do you mean by missed again, are you saying you think scum are trying to lynch you because they think you are a PR?

Yes it is true. I engineered a break such that I would be available briefly at EOD.

By 'missed again' I mean fail to bag a town PR (like D1 and N1).

I don't particularly think scum are trying to lynch me. I think it's mainly misguided townies. I think scum are letting confused town do their work for them while they stay mainly hidden.

[damo666]

?!

Explain the ?!

Why is someone needed to sub in for Jamie unless Jamie is (town/scum) PR?

That's just silly

[ND]

How did you get the % Damo. Make it up?

[damo666]

I mean, if he was just a goon or a town, they could wait longer since those roles have nothing to do during a night.

Voting?

[damo666]

How did you get the % Damo. Make it up?

More or less. It's not meant to be precise just portray different strength of lean.

[ND]

How did you get the % Damo. Make it up?

More or less. It's not meant to be precise just portray different strength of lean.

Lol

[damo666]

I am still not clear what you meant in your self voting post D1. If you are VT, why is it better for your wincon to self vote? Are you saying you thought the other top wagons were town and it was better to vote for yourself than risk voting for a town PR?

Precisely. I'd rather go as a VT than risk a town PR.

When you self voted, thdfrance was tied with DemonRHK at 4 votes for the next largest wagon after you. Why were you then willing to vote for thdfrance at EOD?

When I self voted I was on 6, demon 4, thd 4 & Ike 3 with me on Unvote and none of the other wagons on me. I therefore saw no prospect of survival and I was townreading both Demon and thdfrance decided to vote for myself to a) protect any town PR that might be in danger and b) to signal that I was willing to sacrifice myself which might convince people to switch and thus save me.

At very close to EOD the vote stood at thd 9 me 7 so being vulnerable to 2 late switches to me I naturally voted thd out of purely self survival.

[damo666]

How did you get the % Damo. Make it up?

More or less. It's not meant to be precise just portray different strength of lean.

Lol

Why lol? I could have said very very strong, very strong, strong etc. or some such bollocks. What difference?

[damo666]

Even though I preferred to see damo lynched, I thought there was a good chance peter was scum, so I can believe peter's wagon was town driven. Obviously there had to be a number of town who thought peter was a better lynch than damo, and the same had to be true of thdfrance D1. However, it seems to me that the development of these wagons gave scum a chance to join in and help grow the wagons large enough to divert the lynch from someone else. DemonRHK and RagingIke were wagons both days as well, but damo was the one in imminent danger each day. On D2, damo had 7 votes four hours before EOD when no one else had more than 1 vote, so there was again intentional effort to save damo.

because more people think I'm town than not?

[Vecna]

Especially interesting that its not a real genuine read to me. im 60/40 or 55/45, but im on the likely scumteam over most of the 50/50 people?

Also, apparently its just based on where my vote ended up. Just an FYI, I voted DemonRHK, but when it was like 6-6-3 or whatever I preferred to lynch you over Peter.

[ND]

Inb4 xorxes swoops in and calls that latest damo read list 'real good'

[damo666]

Especially interesting that its not a real genuine read to me. im 60/40 or 55/45, but im on the likely scumteam over most of the 50/50 people?

Also, apparently its just based on where my vote ended up. Just an FYI, I voted DemonRHK, but when it was like 6-6-3 or whatever I preferred to lynch you over Peter.

Wtf do you get 'over' from. I listed the 50/50s first then the 55/45s with a latter poss on ND. I also said 'I don't know which'. Obviously out of the 8 mentioned there are at least 3 town.