Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[yavuzovic]

For my own reference later,
The players voted for both the mislynchs;
Balki, bo_, damo, RHK, Dr.C, Durga, flash, ghug
Did I do a mistake?

[Vecna]

vote by peter looks sooooo opportunistic

Agree.
He made a push on Balki and then voted Damo. There is no way scum Balki will defend scum Damo so openly.

This is not true.

[Vecna]

##VOTE DURGA

lol omgus

And here my opinion changes again, but I do not like this response from Durga.

[Vecna]

Stop ignoring me and simultaneously demonizing me!!!

Scum should be demonized, is that not correct?

These interactions are gold

[Vecna]

Okay Ill go do a Durga iso so I can actually talk to you about Durga.

Okay I did the iso. It was short but entertaining. I think you are a bit wrong about Durga not putting up views. She has been giving opinions on individual players scattered throughout her posts if you go do an iso. Granted, those reads only cover about a third of the player base maybe, and a lot of them don't have a well-written case, but she is still putting out thoughts on players. She isn't impressive, but looking back at her play in other games, she hasn't been impressive there either. The thing I am looking at most with Durga is her tone she is taking when talking to others. It seems genuine to me. I wouldn't say I have a strong townread of Durga, but I think she is on the town side of null.
Okay, now I am going to go do an iso on you peter.

Excuse me? =/ I hate you all.

I mean, you literally needed Vecna to keep you alive last game. All the while you kept scumreading poor Vecna. So unimpressive.

When you gonna get gud?

[Vecna]

Damo wagon is starting to evaporate and I see my name being thrown around as possible scum. I may not have too much time the next 30 minutes, so I'll drop this, I could see a scum team of Damo, Demon, Durga, Peter and another wildcard like Balki or DrCJG. I'm not a PR, just VT

WTF is this shit.

[Vecna]

From the Mafia QT

Ezio: Kill xorxes
Yavu: Kill xorxes
ND: Kill xorxes
DrCJG: Kill xorxes
Mystery Scum #5: Wussies
brainbomb: Dilly Dilly!

Yikes

[Vecna]

Everyone is townreading me. So this is how it feels. How wonderful.

[Vecna]

Ghug is probably scum. Hiding his teammembers in his line of townreads in that readspost of his.

[damo666]

I broadly agree with ghug's post.

I also strongly agree with Xorxes' assertion that scum have not come under any vote pressure either day

Will do a VCA and post results by EON.

[xorxes]

I have yet to claim anything other than town.

Is "claim" equivalent to "hardclaim" here?

Sure, I hardclaim town. Happy?

Very

[xorxes]

So voters that voted for thd and also Peter: ghug, DrCJG, damo666, DemonRHK, Balki, Flash.

They aren't all scum, but I guarantee you there are multiple scum in that grouping. I am going to do something a bit more in-depth, but that range of players is important to keep in mind. They have been instrumental two days running in killing town.

Xorxes withdraw your +1 from this post, I believe it was an accident.

Oops. Withdrawn, thank you.

I think I hit + instead of quote when I responded to it.

[xorxes]

I was scumreading him, right untill the moment he did one post. Where he literally went "Guys, youre making a mistake by voting me". For some reason my emotive feeling felt it was PR desperation. I dont even remember what the second post was, and I cba digging it up atm.

I felt the same thing Vecna felt, and I noticed Vecna doing a 180 on damo at that point and I attributed it to that, so I fully believe Vecna's story here.

[Durga]

Okay I did the iso. It was short but entertaining. I think you are a bit wrong about Durga not putting up views. She has been giving opinions on individual players scattered throughout her posts if you go do an iso. Granted, those reads only cover about a third of the player base maybe, and a lot of them don't have a well-written case, but she is still putting out thoughts on players. She isn't impressive, but looking back at her play in other games, she hasn't been impressive there either. The thing I am looking at most with Durga is her tone she is taking when talking to others. It seems genuine to me. I wouldn't say I have a strong townread of Durga, but I think she is on the town side of null.
Okay, now I am going to go do an iso on you peter.

Excuse me? =/ I hate you all.

I mean, you literally needed Vecna to keep you alive last game. All the while you kept scumreading poor Vecna. So unimpressive.

When you gonna get gud?

Apparently I should have the scum team down by now, but apparently I'm also not very impressive.

[Vecna]

We can both be mediocre this game, we earned ourselves a break, its ok

[flash2015]

See, this is BS. I said I disliked his shitty reads post, and I said I wanted to make things interesting.

You just appeared to cast a vote after spending another day hiding.

Why was it shitty? I didn't count that as a detailed analysis. Sounds like you didn't even believe your own vote...and you question me?

Going overboard on rhetoric is even less compelling when you have literally zero to back it up.

I voted for peterlund. I've made it clear why I did so. I said at the time that taking his flimsy Durga read and then extending it to anyone who disagreed with him was beyond questionable. I was wrong, and you can make of that what you will, but that doesn't give you license to refuse to answer my questions.

You subbed in for a scummy player. You were noticed reading the thread before doing so. You came in and acted like it was page one, and then disappeared when asked for more. You provided nothing new at night. You showed up during the day and voted for the person calling you out, offering no opinion on anyone else, and then you disappeared again. You showed up at the end of the day and cast a decisive vote on a townie with no explanation. When asked for an explanation for that vote, you've refused to give one and instead deflected my questions back at me. Your vapid opinions of my play have no bearing on your ability to explain your own. Get the fuck on it.

It feels weird to give an opinion on my alter ego...but I didn't see anything other than Jamie being Jamie. And I did give my explanation why I voted for Peter (a vote you explicitly asked for!). It was just as good an explanation as yours. Stop lying.

And I am not going to just generate posts for the hell of it. I am too busy for that. This is why I chose to be a sub rather than joining into the game directly when I had the chance. I even asked Fox to only add me in if all other subs said no. Someone needed to sub in for Jamie before D1 was over. I was the only one available.

[bozotheclown]

Currently I see no prospect of my survival so in accordance with my wincon

##Vote damo666

Balki please hurry and do a save post on me

Bozo - yes, by voting for myself. I thought that much stronger than simply saying 'I'm a VT'.

I am still not clear what you meant in your self voting post D1. If you are VT, why is it better for your wincon to self vote? Are you saying you thought the other top wagons were town and it was better to vote for yourself than risk voting for a town PR?

[worcej]

Hold up, worcej is in Washington? Is that the cool Washington or the city?

Not remotely game worthy, but it's the cool Washington. I grew up in Seattle and went to UW, currently living south of Pullman due to work.

[damo666]

Currently I see no prospect of my survival so in accordance with my wincon

##Vote damo666

Balki please hurry and do a save post on me

Bozo - yes, by voting for myself. I thought that much stronger than simply saying 'I'm a VT'.

I am still not clear what you meant in your self voting post D1. If you are VT, why is it better for your wincon to self vote? Are you saying you thought the other top wagons were town and it was better to vote for yourself than risk voting for a town PR?

Precisely. I'd rather go as a VT than risk a town PR.

[yavuzovic]

And I am not going to just generate posts for the hell of it. I am too busy for that. This is why I chose to be a sub rather than joining into the game directly when I had the chance. I even asked Fox to only add me in if all other subs said no. Someone needed to sub in for Jamie before D1 was over. I was the only one available.

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