WebMafia Olympics - Game #3 - Raygun's Revenge [GAME THREAD]

[Fluminator]

Kak I'll vote Sweet with an end if you do

[Fluminator]

How has Rdr not been online since Saturday according to his profile

[ghug]

How has Rdr not been online since Saturday according to his profile

webDip sucks at that shit.

[Fluminator]

Last game I played with scum rdr, he tried lurking the entire game. I'm getting flashbacks here

[ghug]

My heart says it's sweet and Kak. Rd and Jamie are plausible. My heart is slightly more comfortable with Bunny than Flum. I'm headed to bed.

[Kakarroto]

I'm not feeling comfortable to endvoting ANYONE, because I think the chance we hit town is just to high. It could be a full town crew doing that too, without any mafia manipulation on the vote.

But I see the point why an endvote would be good if we hit mafia. I just ... who the eff is it here?

[Fluminator]

I mean, if one more person is online, we could try to get a kill without triggering a gunshot

[Fluminator]

I'm not feeling comfortable to endvoting ANYONE, because I think the chance we hit town is just to high. It could be a full town crew doing that too, without any mafia manipulation on the vote.

But I see the point why an endvote would be good if we hit mafia. I just ... who the eff is it here?

Is our chances higher if we don't endvote?

[Kakarroto]

I mean, if one more person is online, we could try to get a kill without triggering a gunshot

yes, this is why I ponder about it, but if we are wrong and vote out town, it does nothing but bad things for us.

The thing is the one I think is most likely town here also maf-reads sweet. So maybe it's just sweet and I'm just bad with my reads.

so maybe we should just chance it here. It would be great getting a mafia with an unused shot. That would clearly be the best scenario. But I'm just afraid to voting out another town like yesterday.

Maybe I'm overly cautious. Maybe I should just go in there. Sweet definitely was different with his assertion of the sub entry, but in my eyes, ghug and mine were pretty similar. High energy, putting down his feet, declaring 'here am I'.

[Kakarroto]

I'm not feeling comfortable to endvoting ANYONE, because I think the chance we hit town is just to high. It could be a full town crew doing that too, without any mafia manipulation on the vote.

But I see the point why an endvote would be good if we hit mafia. I just ... who the eff is it here?

Is our chances higher if we don't endvote?

no, but I think we increase our chances if we no-kill and wait for tomorrow and force a shot from mafia. At least it would be less risky, and it would cause mafia to lose 50% of their kill potential earlier than I predict if neither of them comes under good enough pressure to shoot early.

[Kakarroto]

Imagine if we are wrong and endvote out town here: mafia will still have two shots, and we are only 4-2.

But yeah, if we endvote out mafia, it would be 5-1, and we would be balling. But looking back, our vote history doesn't look great.

[Kakarroto]

maybe I shouldn't talk about it like ghug said, but I just can't see a low-risk way to be better than my suggestion of the no-kill->forced shot way.

If we vote out only town then, we would do so anyway. But if get at least one mafia in the process, it will not create a situation where mafia can just utilize their shots in the late game perfectly.

Maybe I'm just too risk averse. But frick, chancing it here is just so risky

[Fluminator]

I keep trying to think of clever ways to game this setup and it keeps coming up short.

We could time it for most players based on timezone to schedule to do something when they are incapable of shooting if they are scum though lol

[Kakarroto]

and I know that ghug's heart is at least 50% wrong about the maf team, so I don't have too much confident here in his vote. I mean sure, sweet did some strange stuff, and he could be mafia, but normally mafia would look to be more towny, right? I would guess that if sweet is mafia, he is getting bussed right now, since that would be a great diversion frome ach other, and the other mafia could get much town points for it.

But sweet could also be town that looks a bit strange and mafia trying to get a misvote here. So chancing all that on a 'get lucky to get not only mafia but one of their guns' is just looking so risky to me here.

[Fluminator]

maybe I shouldn't talk about it like ghug said, but I just can't see a low-risk way to be better than my suggestion of the no-kill->forced shot way.

If we vote out only town then, we would do so anyway. But if get at least one mafia in the process, it will not create a situation where mafia can just utilize their shots in the late game perfectly.

Maybe I'm just too risk averse. But frick, chancing it here is just so risky

Miskilling a town while mafia don't get a shot is a net win for us right now.
But if we're miskilling a town, there's a likely possibility mafia will try to shoot and endhammer right after. In those cases it's a race for us to unvote, or a race to kill them next phase before other mafia shoots

[Fluminator]

I'm honestly willing to try something like that and hope rdr is inactive scum. If it's rdr+someone, we have the speed advantage if we force the other mafia to shoot or out.

[Kakarroto]

I keep trying to think of clever ways to game this setup and it keeps coming up short.

We could time it for most players based on timezone to schedule to do something when they are incapable of shooting if they are scum though lol

I think worcej despises me right now for some things I asked in discord

but I just don't see ghug's surefire "that's how town must play" thing, other than the high risk. And it's driving me crazy because I'm pretty sure ghug is town and I don't think I'm especially dumb but failing to see it is extremely uncomfortable for me and maybe I'm just wrong about ghug and he is maf and trying to misvote sweet, or even trying to get credit for voting sweet.

So either I'm dumb or I'm not good enough to see the current situation clearly, and that's just not a good choice to make.

[Fluminator]

I'll rethink in the morning. ##unend

I'll rethink in the morning. I want to be around and ready when I end vote

[Fluminator]

I keep trying to think of clever ways to game this setup and it keeps coming up short.

We could time it for most players based on timezone to schedule to do something when they are incapable of shooting if they are scum though lol

I think worcej despises me right now for some things I asked in discord

but I just don't see ghug's surefire "that's how town must play" thing, other than the high risk. And it's driving me crazy because I'm pretty sure ghug is town and I don't think I'm especially dumb but failing to see it is extremely uncomfortable for me and maybe I'm just wrong about ghug and he is maf and trying to misvote sweet, or even trying to get credit for voting sweet.

So either I'm dumb or I'm not good enough to see the current situation clearly, and that's just not a good choice to make.

It just clicked for me. Yolo
##vote Sweet
##end

Will explain when necessary

[sweetandcool]

I'm impressed ghug is trying to convince you all to do something so incredibly idiotic.

Hammering anyone right now makes zero sense.

Mafia surely has already sent in the shot.

Also pretty sad ghug would want me hammered before giving me a chance to contribute.

This sounds stupid, particularly because I was already voting ghug, and "tunneling", but I'm completely confident Town ghug does not behave this way.

Vote me if you think it's correct, but hammering me is so incredibly daft.