WebMafia Olympics - Game #3 - Raygun's Revenge [GAME THREAD]

[ghug]

well, I just put a vote on bunny, but for what I think for the no kills, this is definitely a mafia team that knows their stuff. I mean, ok, looking at the survivors, that would fit everyone. Still, I think both came to the same conclusion as me, try to get into the towncore and use the shot as late as possible. And I also think no real communication has happend between the two about it.

Well, maybe I'm wrong, and it might be a good idea to look back if something like that happened. But right now, thinking back, I'm pretty sure there was none.

also, we are 5-2 now. If we get one more wrong, it will be 3-2 tomorrow. So we have one more misvote left. Make this one count.

If we get one wrong, it's 4-2, and then we do have to speedhammer.

Wrong. Only one vig shot is allowed per day. Do you see it now?

Oh, that's handy.

[Jamiet99uk]

If we get one wrong, it's 4-2, and then we do have to speedhammer.

Wrong. Only one vig shot is allowed per day. Do you see it now?

yeah, one shot ber day, but day and vote is simultaniously, no? so if we vote wrong, a 5-2 gets to a 3-2 the next day.

Or where is my mistake?

Nope - gunshots fired by Mafia adjudicate immediately, not at EOD.

[ghug]

By all rights he should have been modkilled, so actually I don't have to feel bad about this result since there are no night kills.

He likely would have been replaced, but this is a good look of indignance.

ghug is hardcore pocketing.

I was shading you like two seconds ago lol.

[Fluminator]

I was pretty certain mafia would not shoot day 1 unless it was sketchy one of them might be eliminated. There ideal path was shooting day 2 and day 3 to potentially win with 3 miskills only.
When I saw Monarch online I thought there was a chance she was scum waiting to see if she had to shoot. That's why I voted her to try to scare her into that. (And my eod post)

But when no shot happened, it was very important for mafia to shoot day 2 because if they did and we miskilled, we would be at miskill or lose. Because they didn't shoot on day 2, they have to get an extra miskill now.

I was initially hesitant because I thought Just couldn't be scum because he would have shot day 1 if he was scum. But then there was the argument he just wasn't online. And if we rushed him and there was no death or just rushed the vote in general before mafia shot it would be a net win even if he was town because we wouldn't lose a miskill (and we get rid of a lurker).

RDR and ghug made the most sense when Will was town as well, as RDR was not around and ghug was clearly not fully caught up on the setup day 2.

But now it seems like Kak and Jamie also didn't get it, so it's possible scum just made a mistake.

[Kakarroto]

Maybe I misunderstood the wording, I thought it would put the shot in but only work at the end of the day.

##askGM: is the mafia bullet adjucated as soon as as possible, or is it saved until the end of the day? For example, if a mafia inserts the order at halfway point of the day, and the GM sees it at that point, would the bullet fly out? Or would it be 'prepared' until the end of the day?

[ghug]

I was pretty certain mafia would not shoot day 1 unless it was sketchy one of them might be eliminated. There ideal path was shooting day 2 and day 3 to potentially win with 3 miskills only.
When I saw Monarch online I thought there was a chance she was scum waiting to see if she had to shoot. That's why I voted her to try to scare her into that. (And my eod post)

But when no shot happened, it was very important for mafia to shoot day 2 because if they did and we miskilled, we would be at miskill or lose. Because they didn't shoot on day 2, they have to get an extra miskill now.

I was initially hesitant because I thought Just couldn't be scum because he would have shot day 1 if he was scum. But then there was the argument he just wasn't online. And if we rushed him and there was no death or just rushed the vote in general before mafia shot it would be a net win even if he was town because we wouldn't lose a miskill (and we get rid of a lurker).

RDR and ghug made the most sense when Will was town as well, as RDR was not around and ghug was clearly not fully caught up on the setup day 2.

But now it seems like Kak and Jamie also didn't get it, so it's possible scum just made a mistake.

There's a fault in this logic but I don't think it actually behooves us to discuss it.

[ghug]

Maybe I misunderstood the wording, I thought it would put the shot in but only work at the end of the day.

##askGM: is the mafia bullet adjucated as soon as as possible, or is it saved until the end of the day? For example, if a mafia inserts the order at halfway point of the day, and the GM sees it at that point, would the bullet fly out? Or would it be 'prepared' until the end of the day?

"The GM will do his utmost best to process a day kill ASAP once the order is received via PM, even including it in the day kill post if the order was submitted."

[Fluminator]

I was pretty certain mafia would not shoot day 1 unless it was sketchy one of them might be eliminated. There ideal path was shooting day 2 and day 3 to potentially win with 3 miskills only.
When I saw Monarch online I thought there was a chance she was scum waiting to see if she had to shoot. That's why I voted her to try to scare her into that. (And my eod post)

But when no shot happened, it was very important for mafia to shoot day 2 because if they did and we miskilled, we would be at miskill or lose. Because they didn't shoot on day 2, they have to get an extra miskill now.

I was initially hesitant because I thought Just couldn't be scum because he would have shot day 1 if he was scum. But then there was the argument he just wasn't online. And if we rushed him and there was no death or just rushed the vote in general before mafia shot it would be a net win even if he was town because we wouldn't lose a miskill (and we get rid of a lurker).

RDR and ghug made the most sense when Will was town as well, as RDR was not around and ghug was clearly not fully caught up on the setup day 2.

But now it seems like Kak and Jamie also didn't get it, so it's possible scum just made a mistake.

There's a fault in this logic but I don't think it actually behooves us to discuss it.

I still think you and rdr look a lot worse because of this logic so if there's a flaw I'd be down to hear it.

[Fluminator]

I'm dumb ignore everything I've posted.

I want a vanilla game next time.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe I misunderstood the wording, I thought it would put the shot in but only work at the end of the day.

##askGM: is the mafia bullet adjucated as soon as as possible, or is it saved until the end of the day? For example, if a mafia inserts the order at halfway point of the day, and the GM sees it at that point, would the bullet fly out? Or would it be 'prepared' until the end of the day?

This is literally answered in the OP, if you bother to go and read it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe I misunderstood the wording, I thought it would put the shot in but only work at the end of the day.

##askGM: is the mafia bullet adjucated as soon as as possible, or is it saved until the end of the day? For example, if a mafia inserts the order at halfway point of the day, and the GM sees it at that point, would the bullet fly out? Or would it be 'prepared' until the end of the day?

"The GM will do his utmost best to process a day kill ASAP once the order is received via PM, even including it in the day kill post if the order was submitted."

Exactly.

"Process" means "flip the person who has been shot" in this case.

[Jamiet99uk]

I have a super busy work day tomorrow so may not be as active during the first 24h of D3 as I was on D1, but will catch up tomorrow evening (i.e. like 20 hours from the timestamp of this post, roughly) unless some bad person shoots me before then; I hope not.

[Kakarroto]

ok, apparently I fail at understanding? I have to overthink our situation then.

I am tired however and there is also the hunt for potential ingame signalling, so that all will have to wait for tomorrow.

I also feel pretty dumb right now for you all pointing some of this stuff out. Wish I had a cookie now. A munchable one, not a digital btw.

[Kakarroto]

Maybe I misunderstood the wording, I thought it would put the shot in but only work at the end of the day.

##askGM: is the mafia bullet adjucated as soon as as possible, or is it saved until the end of the day? For example, if a mafia inserts the order at halfway point of the day, and the GM sees it at that point, would the bullet fly out? Or would it be 'prepared' until the end of the day?

This is literally answered in the OP, if you bother to go and read it.

also, plenty of other people (in previous games) have asked stupid GM questions that were obvious from the settings, so me (apparently) misunderstanding an aspect here and asking the GM for confirmation about the exact situation should be not be met with this hostility. I honestly didn't understand it that way until I read it the fourth and fifth time now, but still, I think a question to the GM deserves an answer from the GM, and not players (even if they are kouncil and GM's from other games themselves). Sorry if I cause worcej a bit more work, but I surly doesn't deserve that treatment, I've looked at the setting before, I just made an honest mistake, if that's actually how it works now.

[Kakarroto]

also tired plus hungry plus agitated isn't a good way to post, so see you tomorrow. Sorry if I offended anyone, not my intent, but man, that could've been worded more clearly.

[ghug]

##VOTE Bunny
##END

[sweetandcool]

He likely would have been replaced, but this is a good look of indignance.

ghug is hardcore pocketing.

You scumread Ghug, therefore?

More like paranoia

[BunnyGo]

Rdr - ghugh scumtean?
iykyn?

I know. But I don’t like that you said it

[BunnyGo]

Surprise surprise.

Kak and Bunny looking suspicious AF.

##VOTE Just
##END

You drove me off Just with your weird posting.

But now that NOBODY entered scum kill orders…

##vote Just ##end

This appears to be predicated on a faulty understanding of the setup. Would Bunny really sell out for this kill as scum?

I’m what way do you think I misunderstood?

Only one scum gun can go off.

First one to submit to worcej is the one that goes off.

If Just had been scum, and likely to die day 1, his partner would have wanted to be sure that Just’s gun shot.

Where do you not follow this logic?

[BunnyGo]

Surprise surprise.

Kak and Bunny looking suspicious AF.

##VOTE Just
##END

You drove me off Just with your weird posting.

But now that NOBODY entered scum kill orders…

##vote Just ##end

This appears to be predicated on a faulty understanding of the setup. Would Bunny really sell out for this kill as scum?

And Bunny would have shot day 2 had he been scum.