WebMafia Olympics - Game #3 - Raygun's Revenge [GAME THREAD]

[Kakarroto]

WHERE THE EFF DID I EVER SAY 'ONLY ENDVOTING FOR EMPHASIS'!!!

It's what you said in the first paragraph of your post.

oh yeah? Lets have a special focussed look at that:

first of all, as a long standing member of this community, you must be aware that endvoting does also have an emphasis of on the vote already taken, as a way to 'up the ante', if you excuse my poker-ish.

see the red marked word, which explicitly proofs that your interpretation is totally wrong. It was never 100% of my argument, and it from the wording you can't even be sure that it is a reason for why I'm doing it; no, I just mentioned that has the ability to emphasis a vote already taken. Which is absolutely NOT the 'only endvote for emphasis' as you want to present it.

this is either malicious misrepresentation or a big reading comprehension mistake. And as I know you are pretty good at the latter as a learned lawman, the first situation is looking much more likely here.

In any case, the second part is more important. You want me to believe that you had a plan to cause a quick-hammer in order to end the day very early and prevent Mafia from getting a shot? Seriously??

Well I don't believe that claim because your actions around the time of your endvote do not in any way suggest you were actually seeking to achieve that outcome.

what I wanted to see was your (and others) REACTION to my statement; to see if anyone agrees/disagrees, why, when and how. If anyone had even the thought about it, or if anyone would point out other things that get more obvious when you think more about the situation; I'm currently deep in my "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" phase, and I don't like what I see in your direction.

Will that get me voted out? Maybe. But at least I've done a part in trying to get information and see who is sus and who not.

[Kakarroto]

I find it odd that Kak is now voting MM for lurking, when there are three other people who have not posted at all.

MM is proven to be here and playing. Others might not even had the chance to play.

But one thing is true, I feel a bit better about MM right now, even when I think it might be a mistake not voting her out today. You on the other hand, jamie, has caught my eye, so maybe you are just the mafia here.

##vote Jamiet99uk
##end

[Jamiet99uk]

what I wanted to see was your (and others) REACTION to my statement; to see if anyone agrees/disagrees, why, when and how.

What "statement"?

Your "statement" about why Sweet was suspect was as follows:

"Na, i glaub des wiad so nix. MM wiad woi ned so schnö hia sei. Uand I wü a ned siasndküh wöhn, weu suanst niamond do is. So, woas duan? Vialleicht isas bessa zuam siasndküh zua wexln, dea ignoriat me eh a nua. So guad den, gemmas aun."

Your justification for endvoting was:

Wow, that worked much better as I thought, team bunny-sweet confirmed

clip it and ship it ##end

Talk us through how this was intended to achieve an early end to the day, therefore denying the Mafia their shot. Explain.

[Kakarroto]

what I wanted to see was your (and others) REACTION to my statement; to see if anyone agrees/disagrees, why, when and how.

What "statement"?

Your "statement" about why Sweet was suspect was as follows:

"Na, i glaub des wiad so nix. MM wiad woi ned so schnö hia sei. Uand I wü a ned siasndküh wöhn, weu suanst niamond do is. So, woas duan? Vialleicht isas bessa zuam siasndküh zua wexln, dea ignoriat me eh a nua. So guad den, gemmas aun."

Your justification for endvoting was:

Wow, that worked much better as I thought, team bunny-sweet confirmed

clip it and ship it ##end

Talk us through how this was intended to achieve an early end to the day, therefore denying the Mafia their shot. Explain.

Explain why you are misrepresenting me! You have a PhD, or at least being close to having it, in getting things onto their ground and carefully reading, yet you pushed a totally wrong perspective. You seem to just trying to get a misvote from someone for false pretenses to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

what I wanted to see was your (and others) REACTION to my statement; to see if anyone agrees/disagrees, why, when and how.

What "statement"?

Your "statement" about why Sweet was suspect was as follows:

"Na, i glaub des wiad so nix. MM wiad woi ned so schnö hia sei. Uand I wü a ned siasndküh wöhn, weu suanst niamond do is. So, woas duan? Vialleicht isas bessa zuam siasndküh zua wexln, dea ignoriat me eh a nua. So guad den, gemmas aun."

Your justification for endvoting was:

Wow, that worked much better as I thought, team bunny-sweet confirmed

clip it and ship it ##end

Talk us through how this was intended to achieve an early end to the day, therefore denying the Mafia their shot. Explain.

Explain why you are misrepresenting me! You have a PhD, or at least being close to having it, in getting things onto their ground and carefully reading, yet you pushed a totally wrong perspective. You seem to just trying to get a misvote from someone for false pretenses to me.

You keep changing your story.

Previously you said you were genuinely trying to achieve an endhammer, to end the day early, so that Mafia might not be able to shoot.

Now you are saying it was a "reaction test".

Which is the truth?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Kak:

I am not misrepresenting anything. From my perspective you are saying weirdly inconsistent things and I want to get to the bottom of the matter.

Let's start again.

Why did you endvote Sweet?

[Kakarroto]

What "statement"?

Your "statement" about why Sweet was suspect was as follows:

"Na, i glaub des wiad so nix. MM wiad woi ned so schnö hia sei. Uand I wü a ned siasndküh wöhn, weu suanst niamond do is. So, woas duan? Vialleicht isas bessa zuam siasndküh zua wexln, dea ignoriat me eh a nua. So guad den, gemmas aun."

Your justification for endvoting was:



Talk us through how this was intended to achieve an early end to the day, therefore denying the Mafia their shot. Explain.

Explain why you are misrepresenting me! You have a PhD, or at least being close to having it, in getting things onto their ground and carefully reading, yet you pushed a totally wrong perspective. You seem to just trying to get a misvote from someone for false pretenses to me.

You keep changing your story.

Previously you said you were genuinely trying to achieve an endhammer, to end the day early, so that Mafia might not be able to shoot.

Now you are saying it was a "reaction test".

Which is the truth?

man, if you are town, you are so cooked

the truth is it doesn't matter for my alignment. I can say the dumbest shit and it doesn't change that I'm town. You should really know this about me, you are one of the most experienced players in here.

And yet you yourself keep ignoring and failing to explain why you, who is this straight shooter, and nitpicking others for the smallest discrepancies on their posts, makes such an atrocious misrepresentation. I only ever experienced this when you were mafia, although you usually wait before throwing this big of a wrong shade.

And if you are town, and you just can't imagine that me being here, seeing that most people don't post, do stuff or try to get behind what is happening in this game, and increasing the amount of engagement by whatever shit I can think of, is typical me, then you are just still sleeping in your bed

[Kakarroto]

@Kak:

I am not misrepresenting anything. From my perspective you are saying weirdly inconsistent things and I want to get to the bottom of the matter.

Let's start again.

Why did you endvote Sweet?

lol, 'not misrepresenting anything', sure. Try telling that over and over again, doesn't change that you totally did.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Kak:

I am not misrepresenting anything. From my perspective you are saying weirdly inconsistent things and I want to get to the bottom of the matter.

Let's start again.

Why did you endvote Sweet?

lol, 'not misrepresenting anything', sure. Try telling that over and over again, doesn't change that you totally did.

You are posting a lot, but not answering my questions.

[Jamiet99uk]

Let's start again.

Why did you endvote Sweet?

[Kakarroto]

@Kak:

I am not misrepresenting anything. From my perspective you are saying weirdly inconsistent things and I want to get to the bottom of the matter.

Let's start again.

Why did you endvote Sweet?

lol, 'not misrepresenting anything', sure. Try telling that over and over again, doesn't change that you totally did.

You are posting a lot, but not answering my questions.

no, I'm not answering you, you lost your right to get answers from me the moment you grossly misrepresented me. Town jamie is better than that. And even if you have an off day, you need to check yourself and reroute your thinking. You bark up the wrong tree, and I strongly believe you are just in it here to shade me into a misvote.

[Jamiet99uk]

lol, 'not misrepresenting anything', sure. Try telling that over and over again, doesn't change that you totally did.

You are posting a lot, but not answering my questions.

no, I'm not answering you, you lost your right to get answers from me the moment you grossly misrepresented me. Town jamie is better than that. And even if you have an off day, you need to check yourself and reroute your thinking. You bark up the wrong tree, and I strongly believe you are just in it here to shade me into a misvote.

I am asking you a very straightforward question and all you are doing in response is insulting me and making remarks about my character.

If the "gross misrepresentation" was me saying that in the first paragraph of your initial response, you were "only" endvoting for emphasis, then I am happy to apologise, and withdraw the use of the word "only." You did say that you were using an endvote for emphasis, but my use of "only" may be misleading, and I am happy to correct the record.

If you are claiming that I have misrepresented something else, then I genuinely do not know what you mean. This is why I am asking you to clarify - but for whatever reason, you steadfastly refuse to do so.

[Kakarroto]

Put a pin in that for now. I want to hear from others first their thoughts about all this.

[Jamiet99uk]

Put a pin in that for now. I want to hear from others first their thoughts about all this.

Once some other people have commented, will you answer the question?

[Kakarroto]

sure. I'm including it in my next EoN post at the latest.

[Jamiet99uk]

sure. I'm including it in my next EoN post at the latest.

Okay good.

To be clear, the question I would like you to properly address, is as follows:

Was your endvote on Sweet (a) an attempt to cause an early end to the day and thus prevent Mafia from shooting, or (b) a "reaction test"?

Then:

If it was a reaction test, why did you originally claim it was an attempt to prevent Mafia from shooting, and then change your story?

Or:

If it was an attempt to prevent Mafia from shooting, then (i) why did you then say it was a reaction test, and (ii) why didn't you try to get anyone else to join in with your plan, to give it a chance of actually succeeding?

[Jamiet99uk]

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JustAnImpostorNamedWill

Please join the game.

[Kakarroto]

will be not monitoring the game the next few hours, so

##unend

for now. It's 5pm here, so it should be morning already in the US, so don't hesitate to post.

[JustAnImpostorNamedWill]

fix oida! Kumm, wia kennan des zusomman mochn uand breaken bias das unsre Knochn breachen, ned woah? Uand zua dein Buugi Wuugi da moch i da an klanan Charlston dazua, wos hoitst davon? Ned deppat, gö?

I think Kak wants me to breach the bias against Breakdancing?

Either way, now people are going to think we are teammates communicating, so as much as I like Kak I must ##VOTE Kak

Your worried that people will be suspicious about you because kaka is doing something? Guilty conscience, sweet?

sounds like SOMEONE'S trying to distract us... but then again, there's not much information here. for the meme I will ##vote Kak

[BunnyGo]

What up nerdz?

Just woke up after over 12 hours of sleep. Amazing.

Caught up. Feels like a lot of town!kak not caring how he looks and trying to get any engagement.

Of the other posters: I believe kak when he says TMM was online; I’ve seen them do this before as scum. Don’t know if it’s a tech thing or the thing they do where they load lots of replies while reading to the end and THEN post them all. Which seems scummy to make sure they’re not saying something that’ll come off badly after.

Our Welsh (welsh? Scottish?) poster seems like he’s zeroed in on an obvious town kak. Which seems unlike scum!Jamie.

Rdr is ineffable with his day 1 posting. Dislike.

Sweet is sick. But did not come off as either obv town nor scummy.

Off to see some musical theatre with the kids. Get them some culture with plants eating people. See you later.