WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[Yoyoyozo]

##vote damo

I gotta go to orientation for school I'll be back in about 2 hours...give me a CHANCE to defend myself

I’m tired boss

I’m truly sorry

[Chaqa]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

Well this puts town in a very uncomfortable position. Whatever question you want answered probably isn’t worth the possibility of Flav flipping town, that being a bet that mafia makes (he was a top wagon D3), damo gaining immunity D5, and us losing yet another town. Even worse is if Flav is the Champion and forced to out himself with no one around on Flav’s wagon to switch votes.

That seems a reasonable concern. It’s pretty unlikely the gambler voted on damo

[Chaqa]

##vote damo

I gotta go to orientation for school I'll be back in about 2 hours...give me a CHANCE to defend myself

I’m tired boss

I’m truly sorry

Tired of reading all of his posts

[Kakarroto]

I am feeling like someone's been limited in their messaging.

I want to ask you what exactly you're thinking, but then again it's probably best to be vague about this.

I do however think that, outside of you, there hasn't been a great sharing of thoughts and conversation going on. Flav posts a lot, but without trying to be mean, have to say that (at least in my opinion) they are low effort posts. Damo has some good quality in his posts, and it feels like he's portraying his thoughts at least at times, but I wish he posted more.

Chaqa and kotp both are posting minimalistic. Probably because of their RL, but still it doesn't help the game. Imagine if we had voted them both out instead of bunny and haze, the game would be a lot more livier. And we didn't even get "good information" by voting those two out. I ask everyone to consider voting lurkers out beginning D1, where we not only have enough misvotes to do so, but could get lucky and vote a mafia by doing so, increasing our misvote pool.

Anyway, back to this game, yoyo doesn't post as much as I like, as our confirmed town PR. I want him to be more involved, more decisive, more driving. During the outage of the forum, I came to play a game of Civ 5 with him, after brain and I had a (short) Civ 6 game. During it yoyo had a disconnect in game, but not in discord, and I found out he uses his computer only for video games, so he plays mafia only on mobile. Which would explain why he's not posting as much, but still, I would love him to be more involved.

But yeah, the overall messaging is somewhat lacking.

Wow. Okay fair. I will say that you guys are already doing such a great job, there really isn’t much for me to add. I enjoy you and ham’s analysis when it’s hard to find the right, relevant information. So much to sort through, especially when a turn that’s based off of mechanics that require flips (like the dip flip N3) in order to resolve exactly what happened.

it sounds probably more harsh than I meant, it's just if there is so low reflecting done on my posts, I have a hard time filtering out the bad takes. It would grow easier for me, and I could get a feel of someone, like for example chaqa, who at this point could be even 3rd party for me, I just lack critical information.

And as I said, I'm not a leader, I work best as a support. And I don't say laying low as outed PR is necessarily bad, you got to this point probably also because mafia didn't perceive you as a big threat, so that is done well enough.

It's just I'm wrecking my head around and try to find out who the remaining partner is, and if I'm actually correct on damo or it's just that freak chance and damo is actually town.

I mean he didn't post today, but then again today is his monday night where he's off in the pub and stuff, and he isn't leading. He could still be most unlucky town.

[Kakarroto]

Official Vote Count 4.1?

FlaviusAetius (4) damo666, Chaqa, KingofthePirates, Hamilton Brian
damo666 (2) Kakarroto, Yoyoyozo
Hamilton Brian (1) FlaviusAetius

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Phase ends in 5 hours.

Please note that a few posts didn't make it to the bot. Among them was Pirate's vote for Flavius.

I am noting how all 3 of the people I suggested may be damo’s partner is voting Flav instead of damo.

If you guys are town, I’ll remind you that our goal is to win, not to survive until the end. If damo really is mafia, you’re also doing yourselves a disservice by refusing to vote for him, because his actually partner will be trying to protect him as well. Just trust that town can figure this out.

I want to remind everyone, that mafia probably uses their second use of drugs today, to lock in another misvote. So if you are town, you REALLY have to be sure voting the correct way, and try to vote with other towns. If we are only off by one, we might face another tie, which would be really bad for us.

[Kakarroto]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

which questions would that be?

[Chaqa]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

which questions would that be?

1. Whether or not he is mafia
2. The validity of any wagon analysis involving him
2a. If he is mafia, it would exclude any pairing not involving him

[Hamilton Brian]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

Well this puts town in a very uncomfortable position. Whatever question you want answered probably isn’t worth the possibility of Flav flipping town, that being a bet that mafia makes (he was a top wagon D3), damo gaining immunity D5, and us losing yet another town. Even worse is if Flav is the Champion and forced to out himself with no one around on Flav’s wagon to switch votes.

I'd be inclined to believe you given your PR status; I just disagree how we are all seeing damo. The fact you're voting them means you don't see them, or they weren't revealed, as Champ. It's not wholly conclusive that their mafia either though.

[Yoyoyozo]

I really hope KOTP is the mafia partner, because that kind of makes sense? I guess? If you’re town and damo is mafia, that probably makes Ham his partner, and that’d be really bad for us because KOTP is not here to help us figure this out

[Kakarroto]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

which questions would that be?

1. Whether or not he is mafia
2. The validity of any wagon analysis involving him
2a. If he is mafia, it would exclude any pairing not involving him

1. if damo flips mafia, Flav is not

2. answered with 1 if damo is mafia. If damo flips town, Flav still has a higher chance of being town as mafia wanted him dead (because in that case, it means d&w just failed to inform us)

2a the same is true for damo


so, if that is all, it's in your better interest to vote damo, not flav, if you are town

[Yoyoyozo]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

which questions would that be?

1. Whether or not he is mafia
2. The validity of any wagon analysis involving him
2a. If he is mafia, it would exclude any pairing not involving him

Did not mean to cross post there. Was replying to this

[Yoyoyozo]

##vote Flav

I’m also down to vote damo, but I think flav flipping would answer a lot of questions

Well this puts town in a very uncomfortable position. Whatever question you want answered probably isn’t worth the possibility of Flav flipping town, that being a bet that mafia makes (he was a top wagon D3), damo gaining immunity D5, and us losing yet another town. Even worse is if Flav is the Champion and forced to out himself with no one around on Flav’s wagon to switch votes.

I'd be inclined to believe you given your PR status; I just disagree how we are all seeing damo. The fact you're voting them means you don't see them, or they weren't revealed, as Champ. It's not wholly conclusive that their mafia either though.

I suggest kak’s analysis of D3 for you to look over. That’s not entirely the reason we think he’s mafia. If either of you or Chaqa are town, we have to vote as a team. I townread Kak, I understand that Flav is trying to save himself, but the wagon you’re on has a member who is not going to be around at EOD, and probably 2 mafia members (damo who is trying to save himself, and his partner)

[Hamilton Brian]

which questions would that be?

1. Whether or not he is mafia
2. The validity of any wagon analysis involving him
2a. If he is mafia, it would exclude any pairing not involving him

1. if damo flips mafia, Flav is not

2. answered with 1 if damo is mafia. If damo flips town, Flav still has a higher chance of being town as mafia wanted him dead (because in that case, it means d&w just failed to inform us)

2a the same is true for damo


so, if that is all, it's in your better interest to vote damo, not flav, if you are town

I want to focus in on here. D2 was when Flav wound up being an EOD with a vote placed on them, by Damo. D3 there's the two votes and I am assuming the Champ vote. One vote is confirmed town.

I don't see where you draw the conclusion that mafia wanted him dead.

[Yoyoyozo]

1. Whether or not he is mafia
2. The validity of any wagon analysis involving him
2a. If he is mafia, it would exclude any pairing not involving him

1. if damo flips mafia, Flav is not

2. answered with 1 if damo is mafia. If damo flips town, Flav still has a higher chance of being town as mafia wanted him dead (because in that case, it means d&w just failed to inform us)

2a the same is true for damo


so, if that is all, it's in your better interest to vote damo, not flav, if you are town

I want to focus in on here. D2 was when Flav wound up being an EOD with a vote placed on them, by Damo. D3 there's the two votes and I am assuming the Champ vote. One vote is confirmed town.

I don't see where you draw the conclusion that mafia wanted him dead.

I’ve gotta get back to work. Kak, you got this!

[Kakarroto]

1. Whether or not he is mafia
2. The validity of any wagon analysis involving him
2a. If he is mafia, it would exclude any pairing not involving him

1. if damo flips mafia, Flav is not

2. answered with 1 if damo is mafia. If damo flips town, Flav still has a higher chance of being town as mafia wanted him dead (because in that case, it means d&w just failed to inform us)

2a the same is true for damo


so, if that is all, it's in your better interest to vote damo, not flav, if you are town

I want to focus in on here. D2 was when Flav wound up being an EOD with a vote placed on them, by Damo. D3 there's the two votes and I am assuming the Champ vote. One vote is confirmed town.

I don't see where you draw the conclusion that mafia wanted him dead.

because confident champion is not in the game, and the extra vote can only come from mafia/their drugs!

[Kakarroto]

I would've loved if he didn't just go away


so no kotp due to eepy time, Brian missing, Chaqa either off doing baby stuff or waiting until the last second to maybe change his vote, damo as either role just in his normal pub night at mondays, yoyo at work and flav waiting to defend against an accusation that doesn't come.

Well fine. I just hope you all are at minimum as sure of your vote as I am on mine.

[Chaqa]

I would've loved if he didn't just go away


so no kotp due to eepy time, Brian missing, Chaqa either off doing baby stuff or waiting until the last second to maybe change his vote, damo as either role just in his normal pub night at mondays, yoyo at work and flav waiting to defend against an accusation that doesn't come.

Well fine. I just hope you all are at minimum as sure of your vote as I am on mine.

I'm here now

[Chaqa]

What is the current vote count?

[sweetandcool]

What is the current vote count?

I was just about to post that. (:

One moment...

[Kakarroto]

What is the current vote count?

flav leading in front of damo, as far as I'm aware