Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[Durga]

I'm getting a nice town read from Ezio, which follows from what I thought of Sptozi anyway.

[RagingIke297]

I'm getting a nice town read from Ezio, which follows from what I thought of Sptozi anyway.

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[Durga]

I'm getting a nice town read from Ezio, which follows from what I thought of Sptozi anyway.

1 down, 17 to go

I don't do reads lists. And I'm not about to do one for you. So keep your pressure vote on me or whatever bs it is.

[peterlund]

I'm getting a nice town read from Ezio, which follows from what I thought of Sptozi anyway.

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I don't do reads lists. And I'm not about to do one for you. So keep your pressure vote on me or whatever bs it is.

Only scum cannot put forward a list of about 5 players that are on his/her top scum suspects. Durga I am still waiting for 4-6 scummiest suspect from you!

[Durga]

1 down, 17 to go

I don't do reads lists. And I'm not about to do one for you. So keep your pressure vote on me or whatever bs it is.

Only scum cannot put forward a list of about 5 players that are on his/her top scum suspects. Durga I am still waiting for 4-6 scummiest suspect from you!

Wait, tell me yours first.

[Durga]

And using that logic, you should be voting damo, who has 0 scum suspects.

[Balki Bartokomous]

So when observer targets a driver they can be sure their target was driver since no one else has 2 targets to visit.

Not quite right, but seeing someone visit two targets would narrow the field a lot.

Reasons someone might visit two targets:

(1) PR (scum or town) + delivering a box, or using an item
(2) Scum PR + Night Kill
(3) Driver
(4) Night Kill + delivering a box or using an item

There may be other reasons. And some of the scenarios above may be ruled out by the result of the NK and information we later learn about the box.

[peterlund]

Only scum cannot put forward a list of about 5 players that are on his/her top scum suspects. Durga I am still waiting for 4-6 scummiest suspect from you!

Wait, tell me yours first.

I have already done that once http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... id=w:41864

And I will publish one more before deadline.

It is your turn to publish your FIRST list now!

[bozotheclown]

I will not participate this EoD, Don lynch me while this. You don't even have a reason to vote me.

I might have missed the answer but;
##CALL GM
What happens if observer observes the driver? Does they get both the names driver visits?

##GM NOTE: If the Observer targets the Driver, they will receive a report that includes both targets of the Driver's role power (if it was used that night). The report will also include anyone else that the Driver visits, and anyone that visits the Driver.

So when observer targets a driver they can be sure their target was driver since no one else has 2 targets to visit.

From my understanding of this setup, this is very incorrect. The box delivery counts as a visit, as well as the use of some of the box items, so the doctor, cop, and observer could easily visit 2 targets. Also, any scum could visit 2 targets with the NK and box delivery or box item, and the hooker could make 2 visits with the RB and NK. It is theoretically possible for any player to make more than 2 visits if they were to accumulate a number of box items.

[Durga]

Woah. What a shit reads list. Has anyone read this? LIke

"bozotheclown - scummy"

what is this?

what does this add to anything?

why is bozo scummy?

why are you relying on this reads list in regards to pretending you've contributed to anything in this game?

most of the reads have no substantial thoughts behind them

have these reads developed? or is this still your list? Is that why you're linking me to this bizarre, worthless list of reads

[DemonRHK]

Sorry everyone. It’s been a...rough weekend around this area. I’m going to try to not let that cause anymore issues but it’s been a fucking circus here.

Anyway, catching up, Yavu still doesn’t look good and straight up admits what I accused him of (the OMGUS part), but of bigger concern to me is Ike.

His posts just aren’t genuine. The entire box suggestion, again, comes up. And this time it’s twice as bad as anything else I’ve seen on the subject. It exudes scum. ##Vote Ike

Ezio feels better than Szpot did in that slot, but god knows he’s gonna end up getting shot.

I still don’t see damo as scum. And my two strongest townreads aren’t on that wagon either, it looks like a lazy scum push on a previous leading wagon.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Durga,

I would like to know your thoughts on alignments as well. I don't need a reads list, but I'd like to better understand what you're thinking right now. I feel like you usually have a couple of bad guys pegged by now.

[peterlund]

Woah. What a shit reads list. Has anyone read this? LIke

"bozotheclown - scummy"

what is this?

what does this add to anything?

why is bozo scummy?

why are you relying on this reads list in regards to pretending you've contributed to anything in this game?

most of the reads have no substantial thoughts behind them

have these reads developed? or is this still your list? Is that why you're linking me to this bizarre, worthless list of reads

Well whatever "shit" it is, it is a lot more than you ever have done. At least I have to courage to make a list and name some people as scummier than others. Don't you have any balls to do the same?

[Foxcastle]

VOTE COUNT

damo666 (5) — Squigs44, bozotheclown, ND, yavuzovic, bo_sox48
Durga (3) — Balki Bartokomous, peterlund, RagingIke297
yavuzovic (2) — DrCJG, Ezio
RagingIke297 (2) — damo666, DemonRHK
flash2015 (1) — ghug
ghug (1) — flash2015
DemonRHK (1) — rdrivera2005
Ezio (1) — xorxes
peterlund (1) — Durga
xorxes (1) — worcej

Vecna must cast a vote.

DAMO666 is slated to be lynched.

2 hours remain in Day 2!

[bozotheclown]

So when observer targets a driver they can be sure their target was driver since no one else has 2 targets to visit.

Not quite right, but seeing someone visit two targets would narrow the field a lot.

Reasons someone might visit two targets:

(1) PR (scum or town) + delivering a box, or using an item
(2) Scum PR + Night Kill
(3) Driver
(4) Night Kill + delivering a box or using an item

There may be other reasons. And some of the scenarios above may be ruled out by the result of the NK and information we later learn about the box.

Sorry, I had not read this yet when I posted my similar response.

[Durga]

Durga,

I would like to know your thoughts on alignments as well. I don't need a reads list, but I'd like to better understand what you're thinking right now. I feel like you usually have a couple of bad guys pegged by now.

All your posts are really making me uncomfortable. Maybe I do have "a couple of bad guys pegged by now", how would you know one way or another? And beyond that, I really dislike how you're slyly suggesting that I should have the game figured out by d2 or I might be scum. I don't know the answer yet, and people I usually agree with broadly I don't seem to be vibing with. So no, I'm not sure. Stop implying like I should have it figured out - and unless you have some kind of superior knowledge as scum, you shouldn't know that I haven't gotten it down yet.

You're definitely kind of scummy - I don't think I've liked a single post you've had or your pushes on thd or ND, I don't like damo's d1 shit but his d2 shit seems a little better, I don't really like xorxes' contributions so far and feel his reasonings are a bit out of character for him, peter is pretty scummy and that reads list further solidifies that.

I mostly have people I find townie, including Bo, ND, Vecna, bozo off the top of my head.

Most are null.

[Durga]

Woah. What a shit reads list. Has anyone read this? LIke

"bozotheclown - scummy"

what is this?

what does this add to anything?

why is bozo scummy?

why are you relying on this reads list in regards to pretending you've contributed to anything in this game?

most of the reads have no substantial thoughts behind them

have these reads developed? or is this still your list? Is that why you're linking me to this bizarre, worthless list of reads

Well whatever "shit" it is, it is a lot more than you ever have done. At least I have to courage to make a list and name some people as scummier than others. Don't you have any balls to do the same?

So you're literally valuing a shit reads list as doing something? That is funny. I don't do reads lists, what part do you not get peter. It isn't about courage, reads lists are stupid and a waste of space especially d2 where there is way too many null candidates.

You're really not helping my scum read of you by justifying your contribution to scum hunting as a list where you just list people as "scummy" or "town" with no basis or justification one way or another.

[Durga]

Can someone explain Ike's post on the box or w/e it is to me. I literally stop reading posts when I see it's about mechanics.

[bozotheclown]

Woah. What a shit reads list. Has anyone read this? LIke

"bozotheclown - scummy"

what is this?

what does this add to anything?

why is bozo scummy?

why are you relying on this reads list in regards to pretending you've contributed to anything in this game?

most of the reads have no substantial thoughts behind them

have these reads developed? or is this still your list? Is that why you're linking me to this bizarre, worthless list of reads

As I pointed out N2, peter was tied for the lead wagon at 4 votes when he posted his reads list, and he scum read all four players on his wagon.

[Balki Bartokomous]

##vote DemonRHK

I don't know...