WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[Chaqa]

Am of the opinion that it is rather unique how Kak has assumed the Will role, has read as much of they have with, I am assuming Will’s commentary included, and arranged at so solid a stance.

I also find it interesting how Kak decided to offer a hat tip to their previous epic mafia takeover.

So the question lingering is: what scummy stuff did Will do? What scummy stuff did Will say? Those will be attached to Kak going forward.

I am on the train so what are possible WillKak pairs?

Kak is a pro at being a substitute

[Chaqa]

I’m considering things and I am starting to warm up to *maybe* Flav being town.

I’m feeling like Damo and KOTP have been given a pass

[Kakarroto]

I've just realised I'm voting with my two original suspects at SOD. This is driving me nuts.

@Yoyo Ham or Flav? Can't see kotp being the wagon today.

Assuming Ham switches to Flav it's gonna get interesting.

well, I'm not too sure either you are town, or that I'm 100% correct with Brian. But I've put out my thoughts and so far, people have just accepted them, not really looked at them and tried to find a flaw. So now I'm also doubting that I'm on the full correct track, and that this might be used by mafia, and Brian is actually town and just had an awful timing.

On another note, delivery was a mess, they didn't ring the bell but called, had to to search for the delivery man to get my order, and it turned out they were on a wrong address ... again. And when I decided to just go there and manage the payment there (cash is still king here, of course), it was like a sketch, when they when I wanted to gave the money, first picked the food up to give it to me, then put it on the floor, then instantly taking the food again trying to give it to me again while I still had the money in hand. Somehow we managed, finally, but afterwards they tried to escort me and 'bring the food there'. Really strange stuff. But I had none of it. At least the food itself was great, even when a bit cold.

But I guess that's austrian service for you.

[Kakarroto]

Am of the opinion that it is rather unique how Kak has assumed the Will role, has read as much of they have with, I am assuming Will’s commentary included, and arranged at so solid a stance.

I also find it interesting how Kak decided to offer a hat tip to their previous epic mafia takeover.

So the question lingering is: what scummy stuff did Will do? What scummy stuff did Will say? Those will be attached to Kak going forward.

I am on the train so what are possible WillKak pairs?

yes, tell me, what "scummy stuff" did will do? The most I can see is not playing on. Given I haven't had a good look at D2 yet as i said before, will try to do it now, and in my position I'm not looking for "scummy stuff" from Will, but feel free to search and point it out.

I also want you to show me that 'parroting' you mentioned, as I said, it's your share of work to look for it, so don't push it to others.

But if you want to look for possible pairs with me: I guess damo might be a choice, as I'm known for bussing (I mean I even had him in my early maf guesses, with a dead towny). Flav could be a partner too, as it looks like I'm hard defending him. You could argue I could be also paired with chaqa, trying the slight bus but give him a chance angle.

And of course I could be paired with you, trying now to buss you for credit. At the end, I know none of that is true since I'm town, and everyone mentioned here knows I'm not maf-paired with them. But it's to give you the benefit of the doubt and answering your question to the best of my abilities.

Now, which of those might work with will too? I don't know, and it's a waste of time for me, since I know my alignment. But please, if you want, have a deeper look into it.

[Kakarroto]

I’m considering things and I am starting to warm up to *maybe* Flav being town.

I’m feeling like Damo and KOTP have been given a pass

yeah, but kotp's reaction was pretty ok in my eyes, though I would like your input there too.

Damo I'm still not sure. He did open up for new possibilities, so that's great, on the other hand, it went a little bit easy, maybe. So now doubts crawl in that damo is just doing his maf shtick again and trying to pull me to his side. So I need to be cautious there. For now, I think it's nice to have a more lively situation, and people getting more thoughts out.

On that note, what do you think of D&W? Do you think he's tunneling, trying to manipulate a Flav-misvote, a town who is correctly voting mafia despite this kak-fool who stirs things up?

[Chaqa]

I’m considering things and I am starting to warm up to *maybe* Flav being town.

I’m feeling like Damo and KOTP have been given a pass

yeah, but kotp's reaction was pretty ok in my eyes, though I would like your input there too.

Damo I'm still not sure. He did open up for new possibilities, so that's great, on the other hand, it went a little bit easy, maybe. So now doubts crawl in that damo is just doing his maf shtick again and trying to pull me to his side. So I need to be cautious there. For now, I think it's nice to have a more lively situation, and people getting more thoughts out.

On that note, what do you think of D&W? Do you think he's tunneling, trying to manipulate a Flav-misvote, a town who is correctly voting mafia despite this kak-fool who stirs things up?

I've played with him a couple times but I don't have a real good sense for his meta yet, but in a vacuum I find his play this game to be a bit strange. Strange isn't really alignment-indicative, but it's notable.

[Kakarroto]

That sucks!

Feel like I lost my guide.

why was jamie your guide? Did you not having any good reads?

[Kakarroto]

That sucks!

Feel like I lost my guide.

Get any clues from that kill?

ok, yeah, damo and Brian are not maf partnered. Don't think any maf would ask that to their partner, especially after the nk

[Kakarroto]

You have any clues Damo?

and Brian just asking the same back. Yeah, if this is maf theatre, consider me fooled.

[Kakarroto]

You have any clues Damo?

Not really. Looks like a PR stab kill to me.

sus
why would maf possibly think jamie was a pr
simply put this is tmi
##vote damo

d&w voting damo for TMI ... probably not teamed either

[Hamilton Brian]

Kind of jokey. I did change the vote. You aren’t clear but not the vote today.

[Kakarroto]

You have any clues Damo?

Not really. Looks like a PR stab kill to me.

So you think its basically an arbitrary kill. gotcha. Disagree, I think there was definitely motivation beyond PR stabbing. Jmaie had reads and frustrations about several players and was pushing them pretty hard I think. I don't see a world where those didn't come into play when mafia decides a NK.

yeah, interesting. Please point out more, what those reads and frustrations were, since you pointed it out to us. We might get some good info from that

[Kakarroto]

Dip really leans hard into the belief that Haze is mafia.
I understand getting the worm in the brain, even when it's wrong.

He was wrong about Jamie too.

Which is why i am willing to give Dip some latitude today.

I think anyone that Jamie ruffled or vice versa, I don’t think I’ll consider them today. Yoyo, Dip, bunny, Damo.

I am thinking mafia made that kill to implicate any of that group. I am looking elsewhere to vote today.

hmm, that's quite an opinion. And the same guy that thought ghug was just a PR stab, as far as I remember. Astonishing.

[Hamilton Brian]

Am of the opinion that it is rather unique how Kak has assumed the Will role, has read as much of they have with, I am assuming Will’s commentary included, and arranged at so solid a stance.

I also find it interesting how Kak decided to offer a hat tip to their previous epic mafia takeover.

So the question lingering is: what scummy stuff did Will do? What scummy stuff did Will say? Those will be attached to Kak going forward.

I am on the train so what are possible WillKak pairs?

yes, tell me, what "scummy stuff" did will do? The most I can see is not playing on. Given I haven't had a good look at D2 yet as i said before, will try to do it now, and in my position I'm not looking for "scummy stuff" from Will, but feel free to search and point it out.

I also want you to show me that 'parroting' you mentioned, as I said, it's your share of work to look for it, so don't push it to others.

But if you want to look for possible pairs with me: I guess damo might be a choice, as I'm known for bussing (I mean I even had him in my early maf guesses, with a dead towny). Flav could be a partner too, as it looks like I'm hard defending him. You could argue I could be also paired with chaqa, trying the slight bus but give him a chance angle.

And of course I could be paired with you, trying now to buss you for credit. At the end, I know none of that is true since I'm town, and everyone mentioned here knows I'm not maf-paired with them. But it's to give you the benefit of the doubt and answering your question to the best of my abilities.

Now, which of those might work with will too? I don't know, and it's a waste of time for me, since I know my alignment. But please, if you want, have a deeper look into it.

Stop trying to dictate your own narrative. If I’m suspicious I don’t need you preemptively making me second guess myself.

[Kakarroto]

Which is why i am willing to give Dip some latitude today.

I think anyone that Jamie ruffled or vice versa, I don’t think I’ll consider them today. Yoyo, Dip, bunny, Damo.

I am thinking mafia made that kill to implicate any of that group. I am looking elsewhere to vote today.

I can maybe get behind this, but again I think its all negligable since mafia might've made the kill to protect, not to implicate (maybe even a combo of both!). Also, what do you think of Will (not including him in the pool)? iirc jamie was similarly upset with will for a time (or am I misremembering and jamie was only really upset at dip?).

hmm, I'm not sure, but I think, this makes kotp and Brian unlikely maf partners

[Kakarroto]

Am of the opinion that it is rather unique how Kak has assumed the Will role, has read as much of they have with, I am assuming Will’s commentary included, and arranged at so solid a stance.

I also find it interesting how Kak decided to offer a hat tip to their previous epic mafia takeover.

So the question lingering is: what scummy stuff did Will do? What scummy stuff did Will say? Those will be attached to Kak going forward.

I am on the train so what are possible WillKak pairs?

yes, tell me, what "scummy stuff" did will do? The most I can see is not playing on. Given I haven't had a good look at D2 yet as i said before, will try to do it now, and in my position I'm not looking for "scummy stuff" from Will, but feel free to search and point it out.

I also want you to show me that 'parroting' you mentioned, as I said, it's your share of work to look for it, so don't push it to others.

But if you want to look for possible pairs with me: I guess damo might be a choice, as I'm known for bussing (I mean I even had him in my early maf guesses, with a dead towny). Flav could be a partner too, as it looks like I'm hard defending him. You could argue I could be also paired with chaqa, trying the slight bus but give him a chance angle.

And of course I could be paired with you, trying now to buss you for credit. At the end, I know none of that is true since I'm town, and everyone mentioned here knows I'm not maf-paired with them. But it's to give you the benefit of the doubt and answering your question to the best of my abilities.

Now, which of those might work with will too? I don't know, and it's a waste of time for me, since I know my alignment. But please, if you want, have a deeper look into it.

Stop trying to dictate your own narrative. If I’m suspicious I don’t need you preemptively making me second guess myself.

I second, third, and fourth guess me constantly. My doubts have doubts which have doubts. That's who I am, that's normal for me. If that affects you, I'm sorry, I don't think I can change that.

As for 'dictate my own narrative' - bit flabberghasted here. I'm asking you and others to point out the things I overlook because I know Will is town. I'm also giving you my opinion, which you asked for, or at least you gave it to the room and didn't exclude me, and I told you I wont do stuff that's pointless to me.

If you mean my opinion is dictating my own narrative, you either grossly misunderstand me, or try to manipulate what people read.

[Kakarroto]

but one thing IS true: I'm yapping quite a bit.

I want to hear much more from yoyo, who is our townclear.

I also want to hear more from all the others. I don't want to dictate or a monologue, I want a dialog. So I'm asking everyone who's here to add their thoughts and opinions, even when they might sound a bit silly to you at the time.

Feel free to critique me, try to prod me if you think I could be mafia. I'm open and willing to talk to you, if something is unclear or if you disagree with something.

[Kakarroto]

two hours to go and again everything went quiet.

This is not a good sign. Town and mafia seemingly get comfortable with the situation. Maybe both Brian and Flav are town.

Anyone has another idea? Feel free to step forward!

[Chaqa]

two hours to go and again everything went quiet.

This is not a good sign. Town and mafia seemingly get comfortable with the situation. Maybe both Brian and Flav are town.

Anyone has another idea? Feel free to step forward!

I would like to have a sense for consensus sooner than later as I have a family engagement to head to in about an hour. I may or may not be able to hop back on my phone near EOD. Depends on when we leave and what things are like when I arrive.

I would say for today I will not vote for Kak or Yoyo, and likely not Hamilton, despite finding his vote on me extremely suspicious.

[Hamilton Brian]

two hours to go and again everything went quiet.

This is not a good sign. Town and mafia seemingly get comfortable with the situation. Maybe both Brian and Flav are town.

Anyone has another idea? Feel free to step forward!

I would like to have a sense for consensus sooner than later as I have a family engagement to head to in about an hour. I may or may not be able to hop back on my phone near EOD. Depends on when we leave and what things are like when I arrive.

I would say for today I will not vote for Kak or Yoyo, and likely not Hamilton, despite finding his vote on me extremely suspicious.

The vote I pulled away.