WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[FlaviusAetius]

I would love for you to be more involved though, ask some more questions and try to keep a conversation flowing, with one or two people per day, that way it would help you also in your reads.

I'd love that too. unfortunately chian time is pretty incompatable with most other time zones only a few windows in the morning and evening with NY time, only the evenings with EU time (assuming people are sleeping properly, which they should be!).

ok so who do I focus on today... eeny meeny miny... damo! ok then. wait damo on EU time... ok that's the evening push then.

uhh kak for your timezone post (quite helpful btw, thanks for that!), do you know time zones or just country (ex. continental US has like 4 timezones)

not for all participants. I know like bona is east coast, brain is from the middle/central, eden is in the south so I think central or eastern too, but all three aren't in this game.

Chaqa is definitely eastern from Pennsylvania (as in his description), and I think Brian is more in the west, I think? Don't know about d&w or Flav or yoyo. You should ask them yourself (or they could answer on here?)

Im also from PA! BUT I am in school rn in Indiana but still EST

[FlaviusAetius]

I see.

What are your thoughts on damo and Brian? Do you think Flav HAS to be mafia?

Hamilton is my strongest townread.

Damo I frankly have had a nullish read on but he's said one or two things lately that have me thinking he should be a wagon after we resolve Flavius.

Re: Flav... I don't think he HAS to be mafia. I think he is likely to be mafia and I think he needs to be flipped before LYLO anyway so we may as well find out now.

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

Why must I be flipped at all ? There are other sus people that poeple think besides just me...what have I done besides fail on one read like cmon people

[FlaviusAetius]

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

Who’s your second choice to flip rn? I assume damo is the first bc of the vote, but who’s your second choice?

I think Brian has a great chance of being damo's partner, and I don't know how you townread him that high. I am however known to have some weird reads, so I could be wrong. Other than that, as I think there is also a good chance that chaqa-flav might be the team, we could shoot there; however, in that case, I would prefer chaqa over flav, because it's the safer flip: if they are a mafia team, not much could be lost if we choose flav, but if not, flav has a high chance of having being chosen being the gamblers target. So if it's town flav with being the bet, then we could lose quite a thing.

Then again, maybe I am the bet target, so my thinking there could just be overly careful. I did like some of chaqa's responses, so I'm unsure if it's best to vote him today.

The flav wagon is coming out of left field for me, I totally didnt expect it. If I had to guess it was WillKak that got the Gambler bet, not me but honestly its anyone's guess and the fear of the bet has dictated this game too much. Its time we stop

[FlaviusAetius]

It’s not malware I swear

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erm actewally fortune cookies are of japanese origin (huh never new the emoji was geek, I thought it was nerd...?)

true

[FlaviusAetius]

hmm, flav said he will be here 'tonight' and then being able to respond

curious when this 'tonight' will be. It should be at least around the corner, no?

yep it was, about hmm 3ish hours after this post

[FlaviusAetius]

well, it's 6:20 am here, and I'm really tired. Pretty sure I saw flav in the list for a time, but not for a time anymore. Maybe he's making a megapost, or just don't post at all.

Wanted to wait to see his response, that he said would come, but will see later after I got some sleep if something comes. But maybe I was just wrong in my town lean read there :/

anyway, good night, and keep talking, kotp and damo should be have a good time frame, so I suggest you to to get to it, too.

I leave this tab open 24/7 unless Im playing some kind of game because my computer is really bad and needs everything shut off basically

[FlaviusAetius]

OK Im caught up going to bed now...will be on tomorrow as much as I can, Im ready for the cases to be made against me >:D

[kingofthepirates]

D3 is a day of action how are we STILL on pressure votes? You need to actually make a case against someone you are coasting.

Because I didn’t scum read willkak at all? He had unfulfilled obligations (an unexplained theory, low posting despite claiming to want to be town lead), and I wanted to push him to fill those.

As for a case: I’m on mobile on a car ride rn, and will probably be out for a couple hours. My plan for this evening is an ISO (if I’m using that term right?) of either: damo, dip, or chaqa. Flavius’s defense is… decent enough for me. Also my incredibly arbitrary and biased decision maker likes his PVZ references. Never thought flav was one to use emoticons though.

[damo666]

D3 is a day of action how are we STILL on pressure votes? You need to actually make a case against someone you are coasting.

Because I didn’t scum read willkak at all? He had unfulfilled obligations (an unexplained theory, low posting despite claiming to want to be town lead), and I wanted to push him to fill those.

As for a case: I’m on mobile on a car ride rn, and will probably be out for a couple hours. My plan for this evening is an ISO (if I’m using that term right?) of either: damo, dip, or chaqa. Flavius’s defense is… decent enough for me. Also my incredibly arbitrary and biased decision maker likes his PVZ references. Never thought flav was one to use emoticons though.

What's decent about Flav's defence? All he's done is call us zombies and tunnel on Dip.

##unend. Sigh.

[damo666]

Impressive catch up f on Kak but if Will had bequeathed him a scum role it was right up Kai's alley to provide such a performance.

I think his vote on me is an excuse not to vote Flav.

When Flav flips scum Kak should go next.

In the unlikely event Flav flips town we should probably look at Chaqa.

If the scumpair are in {Dip, Ham, kotp} we have almost certainly lost anyway.

[damo666]

Im assuming yoyo is BB btw.

The only doubter is Ham and if Ham were BB I think he would have cc'd by now.

[Hamilton Brian]

We're 6:2.

We need a mafia kill today.

Starting to reconsider Chaqa. The jump to seal Bunny's death SHOULD be a reason to put them up. It makes sense if they moved to protect potential partner Will.

Posit this:
If I were mafia, why vote for Bunny and not Will, when assumedly I was only interested in getting a kill?

The only logical reason would be if Will were my partner.

So the question becomes - do you think JustAKakNamedWill is scum?

I still think it's a good possibility.

[Hamilton Brian]

Usually a good time for one of these since I haven't seen it yet.

Day 1 End Votes:
Haze: Dip, Will, Yoyo, Damo, Bunny
Bunny: ghug, chaqa, flavius
yoyo: jamie, Brian
Chaqa: king
Dip: haze

Day 2 End Votes:
Bunny, Flavius, ghug, yoyo, will, chaqa
Will/Kak: Brian, king, Bunny, Dip
Flavius: Damo

Day 2 had the scrambling movement to prevent the tie so we need to look at the early votes leading up to the end.

[Hamilton Brian]

Usually a good time for one of these since I haven't seen it yet.

Day 1 End Votes:
Haze: Dip, Will, Yoyo, Damo, Bunny
Bunny: ghug, chaqa, flavius
yoyo: jamie, Brian
Chaqa: king
Dip: haze

Day 2 End Votes:
Bunny, Flavius, ghug, yoyo, will, chaqa
Will/Kak: Brian, king, Bunny, Dip
Flavius: Damo

Day 2 had the scrambling movement to prevent the tie so we need to look at the early votes leading up to the end.

So for D1, if we assume a chaqa or flavius (S & T or S & S) they could have been content to stay on Bunny knowing that town was going to kill Haze.
Is there a possibility of Chaqa-Flavius team?

Also D1 and D2 common voters between the kills are yoyo and will.

As of now there's no CC so willing to up yoyo in to a town placement BUT there's no confirmation of Will/Kak's alignment.

Currently remove yoyo from pairings.

[damo666]

Usually a good time for one of these since I haven't seen it yet.

Day 1 End Votes:
Haze: Dip, Will, Yoyo, Damo, Bunny
Bunny: ghug, chaqa, flavius
yoyo: jamie, Brian
Chaqa: king
Dip: haze

Day 2 End Votes:
Bunny, Flavius, ghug, yoyo, will, chaqa
Will/Kak: Brian, king, Bunny, Dip
Flavius: Damo

Day 2 had the scrambling movement to prevent the tie so we need to look at the early votes leading up to the end.

So for D1, if we assume a chaqa or flavius (S & T or S & S) they could have been content to stay on Bunny knowing that town was going to kill Haze.
Is there a possibility of Chaqa-Flavius team?

Also D1 and D2 common voters between the kills are yoyo and will.

As of now there's no CC so willing to up yoyo in to a town placement BUT there's no confirmation of Will/Kak's alignment.

Currently remove yoyo from pairings.

Yes, but it means Chaqa is bussing but that's well within his game. However, I think FlavKak more likely.

[Hamilton Brian]

Usually a good time for one of these since I haven't seen it yet.

Day 1 End Votes:
Haze: Dip, Will, Yoyo, Damo, Bunny
Bunny: ghug, chaqa, flavius
yoyo: jamie, Brian
Chaqa: king
Dip: haze

Day 2 End Votes:
Bunny, Flavius, ghug, yoyo, will, chaqa
Will/Kak: Brian, king, Bunny, Dip
Flavius: Damo

Day 2 had the scrambling movement to prevent the tie so we need to look at the early votes leading up to the end.

Regarding Damo, was on the D1 kill wagon. What's a more likely alignment to sit on a vanity while all of that movement is happening? How invested as mafia to sit there? If Will as a scum partner is in danger, wouldn't they move to save or just decide to let it play out?

So if WillKak is mafia then damo =/= mafia or damo is mafia so WillKak =/= mafia?

Not very reliable thinking though.

[Hamilton Brian]

In looking at how D2 resolved, Dip cast a vote that would have saved Bunny by tying the votes.

Mafia would not want to prevent the kill, unless there was some hinky Gambler stuff happening.

I think we have to remove Dip from any possible mafia pairs, although I've waxed hot and cold on their game all game.

[Chaqa]

WHEN did you become convinced of the Bunny wagon because you specifically said that you didnt intend to remain on it D1
INFACT
All throughout D2 you were anti-Will, what changed ?

Nothing changed besides paranoia and panic. I would have voted Will but I assumed the votes were shifting that it would be a tie if I did.

Which ISNT a bad thing BTW, if there is a tie no DK no NK

Why wouldn’t there be a NK?

[Chaqa]

Eh why not

##Vote Flavius
##End

*zombie noises* WHY zombie wagon me

Calling the zombie wagon when I suspected you yesterday as well feels disingenuous

[Kakarroto]

Anyone here? It’s lonely…

I really want to hear flav’s thoughts on the current situation. I think we might have to wait for that before the next few fireworks go off.

Ham, I might take up your idea of comparing your posts with flavs. Going out for the day tho so success is iffy.

now after I've slept, why should we do this work for him? If he's town, he should do it himself, to convince us of his perspective.

And if he's mafia, it sure feels like busywork for others. Brian, do that yourself and prove yourself to us!