WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[FlaviusAetius]

I’m going to switch gears because I think we’re all off and self destructing. ##vote kingofthepirates
I think his minimal but dense posting could be an indicator that he’s the gambler, trying to limit post counts while also not drawing suspicion. D2 was also the first time we interacting when I mentioned the farming bets idea.

I like this very much. Kotp didn't show any big effort from what I've seen, and can easily try to just coast here.

I dont disagree that he's been coasting but he's had good analysis I DONT like his voting history pretty much at all tho

[FlaviusAetius]

I’m going to switch gears because I think we’re all off and self destructing. ##vote kingofthepirates
I think his minimal but dense posting could be an indicator that he’s the gambler, trying to limit post counts while also not drawing suspicion. D2 was also the first time we interacting when I mentioned the farming bets idea.

KOTP so far has been spot on with the stuff he has been saying. Maybe you have a point, perhaps you dont he isnt the #1 target I would go after tho, in mafia I say there's probably someone playing sleeper agent and someone we've already sussed out.

No reason to go after KoTP at this stage when its basically equivalent to taking down any of the other super town people

in your opinion, was KOTP being too on point, maybe having too much information?

Why is he super town? Please point out what made him that this game

I tend to agree with the things he's been saying and I havent actually found a reason to even suspect him. See the way I play mafia is that I almost just suspect everyone and try to see the scuminess out of everything. If I cant even find a SINGLE thing to call KOTP on thats someone who cant be mafia

[FlaviusAetius]

Ending already is wild

Flavius is my preferred wagon.

Also that was forever ago

"forever ago"?? It was D3...we are in D3

[FlaviusAetius]

ok, caught up. 2 am here, so probably not too long around? Maybe I soldier on if people respond.

Btw, not much has happened since I started. Isn't it like afternoon in the US? There should be more going on, no?

Anyway, yoyo should be hands off, d&w is a townlean for me, currently. Flav I'm flip flopping, but I think he is more town here.

I don't have a good read about kotp, though not necessarily mafia. I could see him being there, coasting, though, so valid vote target. Chaqa I don't have a good feel for too, need more interaction with him to determine more. Voting there is not wrong.

I'm currently more sus on damo and Brian. First damo had a team of jamie and will, than that totally vanished, and after jamie was targeted N1, it didn't influence anything about will, and suddenly he paired will more with flav. Compare that with ghug being targeted N2 after he uttered him sussing damo. Not likeing it. Very much not liking it.

And I've seen some moves that connect Brian with damo, possibly. I think that there is not an unreasonable chance that both are mafia together.

Sure, could be coincidence and I might read Flav wrongly, but I ain't mafia and maybe I should vote kotp with yoyo but I just read 78 pages of this game and I at least want to express my sus on damo.

so ##vote damo666

NGL I was suspecting something more like a deep analysis on the development of the game or something. I think you put a decent case against damo but it doesnt even feel like a real one rather you are hedging on damo and masking it over with a vote that will probs go no where anyways

WHY do you need interaction with Chaqa he's said plenty

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav, what do you think of the current gamestate? Why do you think so many people are trying to endvote here?

What are your biggest mafreads? What your biggest townreads?

I think its a zombie wagon there is this arbitrary trio that was created for the people who took down Bunny . Well excuse me what about the people who took down Haze? COUGH DIP COUGH

I am the odd man out because ghug is dead and yoyo is PR. But like that cant just be it right? I've talked more than anyone this game and have been fairly active. I am here to talk and respond to people. So why dont I get the chance to even try? PROBS because mafia know I wont go quiet into the night

[FlaviusAetius]

If I could vote for Dip & Chaqa here I WOULD. Doing my case on Chaqa SOON

[FlaviusAetius]

Chaqa - US time, busy
Hamilton Brian - US time
Kakarroto - EU time (but normally late up)
Flavius Aetius - US time
damo666 - EU time
Yoyoyozo - US time
kingofthepirates - China time

so, I get that damo isn't here, hope he will add his mustard during the day

kotp should come around soonish, I think, as it should be (late) morning in china right now? If I'm not around, ask him stuff and get him involved

chaqa said he has much to do, and Flav would post stuff a bit later, as far as I understood.

Brian and yoyo should be here to talk, so are you? Something to do? Or not really want to involve yourself into the game just now? Brian, if you are here, you should really unvote!

Usually I come in pretty late when I do my talking sometimes people are here for me to talk live sometimes not

[FlaviusAetius]

I’m kinda around but it’s my shift with the baby

then why try to end the day early? Are so that sure flav is mafia?

If anyone has played plants vs zombies;

Chaqa; balloon Zombie -- just going with the flow flying above scrutiny!!

HB; Zombie Bobsled Team -- someone who you KNOW is smart but then just gives it all up to follow this wagon

damo; digger Zombie -- he actually is trying to find reasons for the wagon and wants to judge me based off of D3 W damo(but then he end voted me so hmm)

Dip; ladder Zombie -- he went over hurdle #1 (the trio) but what then!! wheres the mega analysis of flavius!!

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!!!

[FlaviusAetius]

the endvote was mostly to emphasize that I was serious. I don't actually want to hammer this.
##unend

It got dangerously close I honestly expected it would be joeover for me when I got back home

[FlaviusAetius]

I think the votes in d1 and D2 are what’s informing us right now.

Will/Kak has a staunch defender in Dip but Dip was wrong on their reads so far so will, flavius, and Yoyo should be viable wagons.

WRONG
I was willing to wagon Will yesterday to avoid Bunny dying.
Today a bunch of people were trying to hammer JustaGuyNamedKak for the wrong reasons entirely, so I pointed out the flaws in their arguments.
Yoyo is definitely NOT a viable wagon at the moment. If and when someone ccs, I will almost certainly go on yoyo, as the claim is very suspicious, but for now they are clear.
And my D2 reads appear to have been very good compared to, say, Flav's.

You do realize Ive been defending WillKak too! We both have, so why is it that it is ME you are turning against?

[FlaviusAetius]

so, you think Flav is town and just kept there by mafia to vote on? I mean, I understand the claim about yourself from your perspective, but why Flav exactly?

Yeah, correction: mafia has an incentive to keep the scummiest looking people alive. That’s every game but the incentives are higher due to the gambler role. I’m not saying anything about Flav. I’m saying that mafia don’t really have a sway in how the vote goes in smaller setups like this when one of their buddies is on the chopping block.

There is a possibility (and it’s been brought up before) that mafia could use that to their advantage to avoid being DKd so it’s weak info to base reads off of, but earlier in the game it made sense to mention since wasn’t a ton of info.

hmm, I see, thanks.

Do you think that the nk's were mostly removing townies that looked good? Maybe with a little bit of PR hunting?

What else would it be for? huh? the real question is whether their reads were accurate or not.

[FlaviusAetius]

also, in case we flip and kotp turns mafia, I think I'm willing to let myself be the sacrifice to get that thought out of your system. If we aren't on our last chance, that is.

Still, as soon as we get one mafia, we should have it more easy to find the other. And I'm not liking what I've seen from the endvotes. Though not all three could be mafia, if I had read the setting correctly.

There were FOUR endvotes infact I saw that on my phone and freaked out thats why I put in those messages because it got to a point it just needed ONE more person to do it...

[FlaviusAetius]

Not sure, but I wanted to get him yesterday

were you aware that you were past the 24 hour time, and might cause that long night?

Honestly I don’t care too much at this exact moment

for what its worth I think Dip is more mafia than you

[FlaviusAetius]

town read: I've liked Ham B for a pretty significant part of the game. D1 I feel like he took charge and led a lot of discussion.
maf read: used to be Will, but given he subbed out and your high energy and activity I've reconsidered that. Not good with maf reads ngl, but returning to one of my old posts, I think damo is one of the less towny people on my scale (this is from my N1 post). Chaqa is a possible option, but I liked their D2 participation boost. Flavius's wagon is lukewarm rn for me, I say let him defend himself first then judge based on that (I want to see this specifically before committing to a vote). these last 2 sentences are addressing my next few possibilities for scum.
partner: I want to say dip or will(you), again echoing N1. idk again I'm pretty ass with maf reads, I prefer building town core and judging from that.

I also think though that there's likely scum among the top posters during the day phases (dip fits the bill here, arguably damo too).

ok, thanks

that was pretty fast considering the amount, and it looks pretty nice. Yeah, I think kotp isn't mafia based on that. Or at least shouldn't be our first try?

I would love for you to be more involved though, ask some more questions and try to keep a conversation flowing, with one or two people per day, that way it would help you also in your reads.

So I'm right now at people I don't want to vote out today: yoyo, d&w, kotp

so that leaves to sort out damo, chaqa, flav, brian;

kotp thinks brian is town
i think flav it town lean

yoyo, d&w, from those four, who do you think is mafia? Who do you think should we not vote for today?

obv flav is maf
most likely pairing chaqa
lets not vote kotp pls

"obv" really!?!
Why say that when your vote, you admit isnt even BASED on ANYTHING I said...D1, N1, D2, D3 like bruhhh
stop being a ladder zombie

[FlaviusAetius]

Yay
ive now buffed my postcount
bye
ill be back tomorrow for the epic hammering of FA

>:(

[FlaviusAetius]

Honestly I don’t care too much at this exact moment

hmm ... would maf-chaqa say that? *ponders*

chaqa, have you considered to sub out (like will)?

No? I'm following the game and I have opinions and reads. I just don't have the time to post as consistently throughout the day as I did. So for example I'm around now for like 1-3 hours (until the baby needs to eat again) but then I'll be gone for a bit

Send out more of those reads!!!

[FlaviusAetius]

Suddenly a different game now with Kak involved.

Doesn't change the complexion of the Will votes, but we really don't have the time and space to offer Kak to establish themselves as town or not.

We need to see where this day leads us and I am willing to ##UNEND to use it to get further information.

The case on Will was horrible from the jump and Kak here proved how much that argument was silly on its face. VERY sus tho of all the people (cough including yourself) that were SURE of Will's mafianess and now all of a sudden arent

PERHAPS people realize crossing against Kak is a mistake if we dont kill mafia today Kak dies N3, Yoyo dies D4, we lose

[FlaviusAetius]

I would love for you to be more involved though, ask some more questions and try to keep a conversation flowing, with one or two people per day, that way it would help you also in your reads.

I'd love that too. unfortunately chian time is pretty incompatable with most other time zones only a few windows in the morning and evening with NY time, only the evenings with EU time (assuming people are sleeping properly, which they should be!).

ok so who do I focus on today... eeny meeny miny... damo! ok then. wait damo on EU time... ok that's the evening push then.

uhh kak for your timezone post (quite helpful btw, thanks for that!), do you know time zones or just country (ex. continental US has like 4 timezones)

just make a case on someone! like a FULL accounting of their posts, that would be very helpful IMO

[FlaviusAetius]

thoughts on damo and Brian?

roughly equal
kind of coasting, receiving no suspicion
most likely pairings would be each other I guess

That is an interesting comment because I was your chief scumread for being aggressive in my responses to people. I wouldn't exactly call that coasting.

Dip caught in ANOTHER hypocrysy? makes you thinK!

[FlaviusAetius]

Kak, if you're into it, compare my posts with Flavius' posts. I mentioned earlier that I thought they were just lifting other people's posts since I read one and thought I was reading my own.

The parroting I notices is suspicious to me.

Why say I am parroting? I'm just not...I don't know why you think that. I have my own voice 24/7 I'm never PURPOSEFULLY trying to copy someone