WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[kingofthepirates]

a virtual chinese cookie, how nice

It’s not malware I swear

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erm actewally fortune cookies are of japanese origin (huh never new the emoji was geek, I thought it was nerd...?)

[Hamilton Brian]

Kak, do you refer to ghug as "fine enough" because of being townread?

[Kakarroto]

No no no no no. Then it still doesn't necessarily bring ghug in to it.

you don't think ghug looked fine enough to being the nk target? if mafia didn't want to risk a safe by targeting yoyo? Who else would you have thought mafia would nk at that point if they wanted to avoid a save?

I have NO earthly idea. Ghug wasn't a solid townread of mine before the flip.

I still don't comprehend the "safe target" of yoyo...ah, unless they were PR hunting for Champion?

And I don't know what it means to "avoid a save."

Each night can spot other bodybuilders, saving them from the NK. If steroids are offered to their target, they confiscate them and may choose to use them. Using confiscated steroids cannot harm the Champion, unlike when being targeted by the drug dealer.

This role functions exactly like a Doctor except neither the Champion nor the target will be notified of a successful save. Additionally, the Champion cannot spot themselves nor can they target the same target consecutive nights.

basically, the thought is that if the champion was going to save yoyo, best to avoid nk'ing yoyo, and go for another target. And if yoyo is taken out of the equation, ghug looks like a pretty juicy target, maybe being the champion on top too. And yoyo might be up be the target on the next night, if mafia assumes he was spotted N2, and can't be again N3.

[Kakarroto]

It’s not malware I swear

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erm actewally fortune cookies are of japanese origin (huh never new the emoji was geek, I thought it was nerd...?)

errm, aktshually, they were first made in the US so they are american originally, like you

[Hamilton Brian]

That makes sense! Thank you.

[Kakarroto]

Kak, do you refer to ghug as "fine enough" because of being townread?

well, he was trusted enough that people went onto bunny's wagon, who he championed. Maybe not 100% townread by everyone, but no one had really considered to vote for ghug.

So it's easy to think that's why mafia went for him, in addition to a shot at PR and avoiding a save.

[Kakarroto]

hmm, flav said he will be here 'tonight' and then being able to respond

curious when this 'tonight' will be. It should be at least around the corner, no?

[Chaqa]

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

I'm not completely ruling it out, but it is not a team I would consider likely at the moment. You could be right about Damo. I thought Flav's partner was Yoyo but that is apparently wrong, so maybe it could be Flav-Damo?

you think maf-damo would switch from end voting me to end vote his partner, then proceed to go to sleep?

That would be very cold hearted. I don't think that would be a likely pairing. Damo isn't a full busser like me.

That's a good point and I'm not in fact sure Damo would do that as scum with Flav. So maybe they are not scum together?

[Chaqa]

We're 6:2.

We need a mafia kill today.

Starting to reconsider Chaqa. The jump to seal Bunny's death SHOULD be a reason to put them up. It makes sense if they moved to protect potential partner Will.

Posit this:
If I were mafia, why vote for Bunny and not Will, when assumedly I was only interested in getting a kill?

The only logical reason would be if Will were my partner.

So the question becomes - do you think JustAKakNamedWill is scum?

[Kakarroto]

well, it's 6:20 am here, and I'm really tired. Pretty sure I saw flav in the list for a time, but not for a time anymore. Maybe he's making a megapost, or just don't post at all.

Wanted to wait to see his response, that he said would come, but will see later after I got some sleep if something comes. But maybe I was just wrong in my town lean read there :/

anyway, good night, and keep talking, kotp and damo should be have a good time frame, so I suggest you to to get to it, too.

[Chaqa]

I'm also heading to bed soon.

[Chaqa]

##Unend I suppose

[kingofthepirates]

Anyone here? It’s lonely…

I really want to hear flav’s thoughts on the current situation. I think we might have to wait for that before the next few fireworks go off.

Ham, I might take up your idea of comparing your posts with flavs. Going out for the day tho so success is iffy.

[FlaviusAetius]

Anyone here? It’s lonely…

I really want to hear flav’s thoughts on the current situation. I think we might have to wait for that before the next few fireworks go off.

Ham, I might take up your idea of comparing your posts with flavs. Going out for the day tho so success is iffy.

Im here!!!

[sweetandcool]

Official Vote Count 3.1

FlaviusAetius (4) DiplomacyandWarfare, Hamilton Brian, damo666*, Chaqa
kingofthepirates (1) Yoyoyozo
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) FlaviusAetius
damo666 (1) Kakarroto
Unvote (1) kingofthepirates

Flavius is set to die.

All players have met participation requirements.

15.5 hours left of phase.

[FlaviusAetius]

Scum!Chaqa won’t come in after a somewhat better D2 and start bungling like this.

Chaqa could just be busy IDK why you rely on people's meta so much, YES its a good idea to give you direction but to direct your whole personality? Just doesnt make sense

[FlaviusAetius]

I was gonna type up some long thing but basically at EOD I got spooked that the scum team was Dip and Bunny. I also was worried we were about to tie. As it turned out, I could have voted Will, but I was panicking a bit at the DIp/Bunny scumteam I imagined.

? I dont understand this , why are you randomly bringing up a Dip & Bunny wagon, you and Dip and damo all voted basically at the same time so surely not that

There were some posts, mostly by Dip near EOD, that made me think he was coordinating to save Bunny. I got super paranoid and panicked. After last game I was kind of in a "oh crap I'm bad at mafia right now, my reads are probably all wrong" mindset.

A great way to explain such a sudden shift in playstyle >.> and bad moves in general . OCCAM'S RAZOR! Most likely explanation is the answer and the answer here is that you are mafia...you have these EoD epiphanies repeatedly now

[FlaviusAetius]

100% paranoia in the lead up to eod.

WHEN did you become convinced of the Bunny wagon because you specifically said that you didnt intend to remain on it D1
INFACT
All throughout D2 you were anti-Will, what changed ?

Nothing changed besides paranoia and panic. I would have voted Will but I assumed the votes were shifting that it would be a tie if I did.

Which ISNT a bad thing BTW, if there is a tie no DK no NK

[FlaviusAetius]

As I see it, the three main perpetrators of the BunnyGo wagon were FA, ghug, and yoyo. It's very unlikely this shitwagon was entirely lead by town.
Yoyo is apparently a pr but isn't dead???
ghug is dead
FA made a set of very bad excuses for the Bunny wagon that was at best a tunnel and at worst a mafia push. Extremely suspicious.

Also, I see a whole bunch of accusations pointed at me.
Yesterday, I did indeed try to tie, as the other option was allowing Bunny to be killed.
Tying > killing someone who is 99% town and who the maf probably bet on the death of
if you don't want me to tie, find a decent wagon instead.

Yes, I did ask yoyo if they were going to unclaim. My goal there was to avoid unecessary cc nonsense - if yoyo was going to unclaim it was better that they did it before someone cc'ed.
Yes, I asked yoyo a relevant question after suggesting we didn't talk during the night. However, it was also after everyone else was trying to talk during the night.

I also seem to be the only one who took a serious look at Bunny's wagon and said "This wagon is shitty."

I would say "fa must die today" but that would probably look like Gambler.
##vote FlaviusAetius
##end

I did not make a very bad set of excuses. Those were good reasons to vote Bunny and many people voted for Bunny so thats just false.
Why say our wagon cant be led by town? Bunny did sus stuff D1 and N1 so the natural thing to do is say D2 is bad. I told Bunny I couldnt really find reasons why his D2 would make him scummy and so I was kinda getting swayed to pull off. We had time to do so.

THEN
Yoyo comes in and says well Im a PR so cant be me. His wagon dead . Then says he visited Will so his wagon dead . Bunny is all thats left so thats where the votes went .

HONESTLY though,
Best outcome of that day in retrospect would have been a tie . Not only would we have yoyo PR info, Bunny & Ghug would still be alive.

"unessary CC NONSENSE?"

Hello??? That is how we catch mafia, by HAVING a CC and getting someone caught!!! Why say this is unecessary. Stop saying "after everyone else was talking during the night" There wasnt real discussion so X to doubt you actually believe that.

You arent the only one but you didnt do a BUnny defense until I finally got around to making my case. Your whole defense was essentially it was based off of D1 & N1. Like what else was it supposed to be based off of? Bad defense.

Why must "FA" die? Because I am the last person in your arbitrary trio? Doesnt make sense to me not one bit

[FlaviusAetius]

Im BEGINNING to suspect I have a zombie wagon, so far...no real arguments