WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[Kakarroto]

No? I'm following the game and I have opinions and reads. I just don't have the time to post as consistently throughout the day as I did. So for example I'm around now for like 1-3 hours (until the baby needs to eat again) but then I'll be gone for a bit

I see.

What are your thoughts on damo and Brian? Do you think Flav HAS to be mafia?

Hamilton is my strongest townread.

Damo I frankly have had a nullish read on but he's said one or two things lately that have me thinking he should be a wagon after we resolve Flavius.

Re: Flav... I don't think he HAS to be mafia. I think he is likely to be mafia and I think he needs to be flipped before LYLO anyway so we may as well find out now.

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

[Hamilton Brian]

Yoyo, you said you targeted Will N1. You're not sharing the result of that. So we don't know if Will is Champion or Mafia.

Rereading the doc, buff boy doesn’t know if they visited mafia. Yoyo only knows whether will(kak) is champ or not. AND THEY ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT REVEAL THAT.

Nope, nor am I asking them to.

Yoyo can tell us who he visited N2 though.

[Kakarroto]

Kak, if you're into it, compare my posts with Flavius' posts. I mentioned earlier that I thought they were just lifting other people's posts since I read one and thought I was reading my own.

The parroting I notices is suspicious to me.

Well, not before I go to sleep. I'll try to remember to do so when I get up

[Kakarroto]

Yeah, correction: mafia has an incentive to keep the scummiest looking people alive. That’s every game but the incentives are higher due to the gambler role. I’m not saying anything about Flav. I’m saying that mafia don’t really have a sway in how the vote goes in smaller setups like this when one of their buddies is on the chopping block.

There is a possibility (and it’s been brought up before) that mafia could use that to their advantage to avoid being DKd so it’s weak info to base reads off of, but earlier in the game it made sense to mention since wasn’t a ton of info.

hmm, I see, thanks.

Do you think that the nk's were mostly removing townies that looked good? Maybe with a little bit of PR hunting?

Jamie definitely could have been a shot at a PR. Now that I reread the setup, ghug could have just been an attempt to avoid the possibility that Champion saves me.

that's a good point, so ghug makes even more sense to target N2

[Kakarroto]

not for all participants. I know like bona is east coast, brain is from the middle/central, eden is in the south so I think central or eastern too, but all three aren't in this game.

Chaqa is definitely eastern from Pennsylvania (as in his description), and I think Brian is more in the west, I think? Don't know about d&w or Flav or yoyo. You should ask them yourself (or they could answer on here?)

Gotcha, thanks! For future reference my normal time zone is east coast (NY) time.

Uh yeah if y’all could drop time zone that’d be great. I’ll send you a virtual cookie (not the one websites use)!

a virtual chinese cookie, how nice

[Hamilton Brian]

Jamie definitely could have been a shot at a PR. Now that I reread the setup, ghug could have just been an attempt to avoid the possibility that Champion saves me.

Are you suggesting the ghug made it seem like he was Champion?

[kingofthepirates]

I see.

What are your thoughts on damo and Brian? Do you think Flav HAS to be mafia?

Hamilton is my strongest townread.

Damo I frankly have had a nullish read on but he's said one or two things lately that have me thinking he should be a wagon after we resolve Flavius.

Re: Flav... I don't think he HAS to be mafia. I think he is likely to be mafia and I think he needs to be flipped before LYLO anyway so we may as well find out now.

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

Who’s your second choice to flip rn? I assume damo is the first bc of the vote, but who’s your second choice?

[Chaqa]

I see.

What are your thoughts on damo and Brian? Do you think Flav HAS to be mafia?

Hamilton is my strongest townread.

Damo I frankly have had a nullish read on but he's said one or two things lately that have me thinking he should be a wagon after we resolve Flavius.

Re: Flav... I don't think he HAS to be mafia. I think he is likely to be mafia and I think he needs to be flipped before LYLO anyway so we may as well find out now.

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

I'm not completely ruling it out, but it is not a team I would consider likely at the moment. You could be right about Damo. I thought Flav's partner was Yoyo but that is apparently wrong, so maybe it could be Flav-Damo?

[kingofthepirates]

not for all participants. I know like bona is east coast, brain is from the middle/central, eden is in the south so I think central or eastern too, but all three aren't in this game.

Chaqa is definitely eastern from Pennsylvania (as in his description), and I think Brian is more in the west, I think? Don't know about d&w or Flav or yoyo. You should ask them yourself (or they could answer on here?)

Gotcha, thanks! For future reference my normal time zone is east coast (NY) time.

Uh yeah if y’all could drop time zone that’d be great. I’ll send you a virtual cookie (not the one websites use)!

a virtual chinese cookie, how nice

It’s not malware I swear

[Yoyoyozo]

Jamie definitely could have been a shot at a PR. Now that I reread the setup, ghug could have just been an attempt to avoid the possibility that Champion saves me.

Are you suggesting the ghug made it seem like he was Champion?

No, I’m saying that if the champion saved me and I was the target for N2, there wouldn’t have been an NK for N2.

[Hamilton Brian]

Jamie definitely could have been a shot at a PR. Now that I reread the setup, ghug could have just been an attempt to avoid the possibility that Champion saves me.

Are you suggesting the ghug made it seem like he was Champion?

No, I’m saying that if the champion saved me and I was the target for N2, there wouldn’t have been an NK for N2.

No no no no no. Then it still doesn't necessarily bring ghug in to it.

[kingofthepirates]

Jamie definitely could have been a shot at a PR. Now that I reread the setup, ghug could have just been an attempt to avoid the possibility that Champion saves me.

Are you suggesting the ghug made it seem like he was Champion?

No, I’m saying that if the champion saved me and I was the target for N2, there wouldn’t have been an NK for N2.

I agree with this thinking, and suspect that it was a motivation for the kill (among others), but I don’t see anything coming from dwelling on the NKs further.

[Kakarroto]

Hamilton is my strongest townread.

Damo I frankly have had a nullish read on but he's said one or two things lately that have me thinking he should be a wagon after we resolve Flavius.

Re: Flav... I don't think he HAS to be mafia. I think he is likely to be mafia and I think he needs to be flipped before LYLO anyway so we may as well find out now.

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

Who’s your second choice to flip rn? I assume damo is the first bc of the vote, but who’s your second choice?

I think Brian has a great chance of being damo's partner, and I don't know how you townread him that high. I am however known to have some weird reads, so I could be wrong. Other than that, as I think there is also a good chance that chaqa-flav might be the team, we could shoot there; however, in that case, I would prefer chaqa over flav, because it's the safer flip: if they are a mafia team, not much could be lost if we choose flav, but if not, flav has a high chance of having being chosen being the gamblers target. So if it's town flav with being the bet, then we could lose quite a thing.

Then again, maybe I am the bet target, so my thinking there could just be overly careful. I did like some of chaqa's responses, so I'm unsure if it's best to vote him today.

[Kakarroto]

Hamilton is my strongest townread.

Damo I frankly have had a nullish read on but he's said one or two things lately that have me thinking he should be a wagon after we resolve Flavius.

Re: Flav... I don't think he HAS to be mafia. I think he is likely to be mafia and I think he needs to be flipped before LYLO anyway so we may as well find out now.

I see, thanks. So I'm pretty sure the HB-damo mafteam is rubbish in your mind?

regarding flipping flav before the end: I guess too many people have him as sus, so I guess that's right. I think today might not be the best if we care about the gambler, though if he is mafia it would be still a victory. I want to hear what he has to say, and if he is town, I think it might be better to wait for another day to flip him.

I'm not completely ruling it out, but it is not a team I would consider likely at the moment. You could be right about Damo. I thought Flav's partner was Yoyo but that is apparently wrong, so maybe it could be Flav-Damo?

you think maf-damo would switch from end voting me to end vote his partner, then proceed to go to sleep?

That would be very cold hearted. I don't think that would be a likely pairing. Damo isn't a full busser like me.

[Kakarroto]

Gotcha, thanks! For future reference my normal time zone is east coast (NY) time.

Uh yeah if y’all could drop time zone that’d be great. I’ll send you a virtual cookie (not the one websites use)!

a virtual chinese cookie, how nice

It’s not malware I swear

[Kakarroto]

Are you suggesting the ghug made it seem like he was Champion?

No, I’m saying that if the champion saved me and I was the target for N2, there wouldn’t have been an NK for N2.

No no no no no. Then it still doesn't necessarily bring ghug in to it.

you don't think ghug looked fine enough to being the nk target? if mafia didn't want to risk a safe by targeting yoyo? Who else would you have thought mafia would nk at that point if they wanted to avoid a save?

[Hamilton Brian]

We're 6:2.

We need a mafia kill today.

Starting to reconsider Chaqa. The jump to seal Bunny's death SHOULD be a reason to put them up. It makes sense if they moved to protect potential partner Will.

[Kakarroto]

I mean, sure, in another universe ghug might've been mafia there, but he flipped town so naturally, he should be quite a high target for mafia, no?

[Kakarroto]

We're 6:2.

We need a mafia kill today.

Starting to reconsider Chaqa. The jump to seal Bunny's death SHOULD be a reason to put them up. It makes sense if they moved to protect potential partner Will.

well, I guarantee you that chaqa isn't mafia partner with will. 100%

[Hamilton Brian]

No, I’m saying that if the champion saved me and I was the target for N2, there wouldn’t have been an NK for N2.

No no no no no. Then it still doesn't necessarily bring ghug in to it.

you don't think ghug looked fine enough to being the nk target? if mafia didn't want to risk a safe by targeting yoyo? Who else would you have thought mafia would nk at that point if they wanted to avoid a save?

I have NO earthly idea. Ghug wasn't a solid townread of mine before the flip.

I still don't comprehend the "safe target" of yoyo...ah, unless they were PR hunting for Champion?

And I don't know what it means to "avoid a save."