WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[Kakarroto]

Did Will/Kak get a PM from Night 1?

Why should I say that?

[Kakarroto]

I think the votes in d1 and D2 are what’s informing us right now.

Will/Kak has a staunch defender in Dip but Dip was wrong on their reads so far so will, flavius, and Yoyo should be viable wagons.

why would you want to vote for an uncc'ed pr claim?

I think the claim is crap. I don’t believe it.

I see. Well, it's a free country, right?

Then again, why had the real pr not claimed yet?

[Chaqa]

I’m kinda around but it’s my shift with the baby

then why try to end the day early? Are so that sure flav is mafia?

Not sure, but I wanted to get him yesterday

[Kakarroto]

I’m kinda around but it’s my shift with the baby

then why try to end the day early? Are so that sure flav is mafia?

Not sure, but I wanted to get him yesterday

were you aware that you were past the 24 hour time, and might cause that long night?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I think the votes in d1 and D2 are what’s informing us right now.

Will/Kak has a staunch defender in Dip but Dip was wrong on their reads so far so will, flavius, and Yoyo should be viable wagons.

WRONG
I was willing to wagon Will yesterday to avoid Bunny dying.
Today a bunch of people were trying to hammer JustaGuyNamedKak for the wrong reasons entirely, so I pointed out the flaws in their arguments.
Yoyo is definitely NOT a viable wagon at the moment. If and when someone ccs, I will almost certainly go on yoyo, as the claim is very suspicious, but for now they are clear.
And my D2 reads appear to have been very good compared to, say, Flav's.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

...
Wow
Chaqa tried to get FA in hammer range in a VERY suspicious way.
(I use all-caps to emphasize specific words because you can see it in any mode)
Almost definitely one scum in these two.
Possibly both if this is a bus.

[Yoyoyozo]

Tell me what you think happened EOD1

Mafia has an incentive to keep the scummiest people alive D1 so they can bet on them D2. Flav and I were spared because we’d be low hanging fruit today. That suggests you and damo

so, you think Flav is town and just kept there by mafia to vote on? I mean, I understand the claim about yourself from your perspective, but why Flav exactly?

Yeah, correction: mafia has an incentive to keep the scummiest looking people alive. That’s every game but the incentives are higher due to the gambler role. I’m not saying anything about Flav. I’m saying that mafia don’t really have a sway in how the vote goes in smaller setups like this when one of their buddies is on the chopping block.

There is a possibility (and it’s been brought up before) that mafia could use that to their advantage to avoid being DKd so it’s weak info to base reads off of, but earlier in the game it made sense to mention since wasn’t a ton of info.

[Kakarroto]

@d&w what are your thoughts on damo? What do you think of Brian misrepresenting what happened then? Do you think it is just a simple mistake, or maliciously planted to confuse people?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Chaqa - US time, busy
Hamilton Brian - US time
Kakarroto - EU time (but normally late up)
Flavius Aetius - US time
damo666 - EU time
Yoyoyozo - US time
kingofthepirates - China time

so, I get that damo isn't here, hope he will add his mustard during the day

kotp should come around soonish, I think, as it should be (late) morning in china right now? If I'm not around, ask him stuff and get him involved

chaqa said he has much to do, and Flav would post stuff a bit later, as far as I understood.

Brian and yoyo should be here to talk, so are you? Something to do? Or not really want to involve yourself into the game just now? Brian, if you are here, you should really unvote!

Dip&War also US time but tends to be on at weird hours.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

ok, caught up. 2 am here, so probably not too long around? Maybe I soldier on if people respond.

Btw, not much has happened since I started. Isn't it like afternoon in the US? There should be more going on, no?

Anyway, yoyo should be hands off, d&w is a townlean for me, currently. Flav I'm flip flopping, but I think he is more town here.

I don't have a good read about kotp, though not necessarily mafia. I could see him being there, coasting, though, so valid vote target. Chaqa I don't have a good feel for too, need more interaction with him to determine more. Voting there is not wrong.

I'm currently more sus on damo and Brian. First damo had a team of jamie and will, than that totally vanished, and after jamie was targeted N1, it didn't influence anything about will, and suddenly he paired will more with flav. Compare that with ghug being targeted N2 after he uttered him sussing damo. Not likeing it. Very much not liking it.

And I've seen some moves that connect Brian with damo, possibly. I think that there is not an unreasonable chance that both are mafia together.

Sure, could be coincidence and I might read Flav wrongly, but I ain't mafia and maybe I should vote kotp with yoyo but I just read 78 pages of this game and I at least want to express my sus on damo.

so ##vote damo666

Noice. I myself was actually thinking that HB and damo were potentially coasting.
anyways most likely pairing for kak is currently kotp
look at their posts side by side and then tell me im wrong.

[Kakarroto]

Mafia has an incentive to keep the scummiest people alive D1 so they can bet on them D2. Flav and I were spared because we’d be low hanging fruit today. That suggests you and damo

so, you think Flav is town and just kept there by mafia to vote on? I mean, I understand the claim about yourself from your perspective, but why Flav exactly?

Yeah, correction: mafia has an incentive to keep the scummiest looking people alive. That’s every game but the incentives are higher due to the gambler role. I’m not saying anything about Flav. I’m saying that mafia don’t really have a sway in how the vote goes in smaller setups like this when one of their buddies is on the chopping block.

There is a possibility (and it’s been brought up before) that mafia could use that to their advantage to avoid being DKd so it’s weak info to base reads off of, but earlier in the game it made sense to mention since wasn’t a ton of info.

hmm, I see, thanks.

Do you think that the nk's were mostly removing townies that looked good? Maybe with a little bit of PR hunting?

[Kakarroto]

Chaqa - US time, busy
Hamilton Brian - US time
Kakarroto - EU time (but normally late up)
Flavius Aetius - US time
damo666 - EU time
Yoyoyozo - US time
kingofthepirates - China time

so, I get that damo isn't here, hope he will add his mustard during the day

kotp should come around soonish, I think, as it should be (late) morning in china right now? If I'm not around, ask him stuff and get him involved

chaqa said he has much to do, and Flav would post stuff a bit later, as far as I understood.

Brian and yoyo should be here to talk, so are you? Something to do? Or not really want to involve yourself into the game just now? Brian, if you are here, you should really unvote!

Dip&War also US time but tends to be on at weird hours.

oh, sorry, I missed you. It's late here, just shy of 4 am, and I've read a whole game today

[Kakarroto]

ok, caught up. 2 am here, so probably not too long around? Maybe I soldier on if people respond.

Btw, not much has happened since I started. Isn't it like afternoon in the US? There should be more going on, no?

Anyway, yoyo should be hands off, d&w is a townlean for me, currently. Flav I'm flip flopping, but I think he is more town here.

I don't have a good read about kotp, though not necessarily mafia. I could see him being there, coasting, though, so valid vote target. Chaqa I don't have a good feel for too, need more interaction with him to determine more. Voting there is not wrong.

I'm currently more sus on damo and Brian. First damo had a team of jamie and will, than that totally vanished, and after jamie was targeted N1, it didn't influence anything about will, and suddenly he paired will more with flav. Compare that with ghug being targeted N2 after he uttered him sussing damo. Not likeing it. Very much not liking it.

And I've seen some moves that connect Brian with damo, possibly. I think that there is not an unreasonable chance that both are mafia together.

Sure, could be coincidence and I might read Flav wrongly, but I ain't mafia and maybe I should vote kotp with yoyo but I just read 78 pages of this game and I at least want to express my sus on damo.

so ##vote damo666

Noice. I myself was actually thinking that HB and damo were potentially coasting.
anyways most likely pairing for kak is currently kotp
look at their posts side by side and then tell me im wrong.

well, I'm not on a mafia team with him, but I guess we could be both town. What are your thoughts on kotp for having the post above, and not posting his answers to my questions about the reads? Well, maybe he's just typing a long response, but I think that could've gone much quicker

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Chaqa - US time, busy
Hamilton Brian - US time
Kakarroto - EU time (but normally late up)
Flavius Aetius - US time
damo666 - EU time
Yoyoyozo - US time
kingofthepirates - China time

so, I get that damo isn't here, hope he will add his mustard during the day

kotp should come around soonish, I think, as it should be (late) morning in china right now? If I'm not around, ask him stuff and get him involved

chaqa said he has much to do, and Flav would post stuff a bit later, as far as I understood.

Brian and yoyo should be here to talk, so are you? Something to do? Or not really want to involve yourself into the game just now? Brian, if you are here, you should really unvote!

Dip&War also US time but tends to be on at weird hours.

oh, sorry, I missed you. It's late here, just shy of 4 am, and I've read a whole game today

Impressive
anyways I townread kak although I didnt townread will

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

ok, caught up. 2 am here, so probably not too long around? Maybe I soldier on if people respond.

Btw, not much has happened since I started. Isn't it like afternoon in the US? There should be more going on, no?

Anyway, yoyo should be hands off, d&w is a townlean for me, currently. Flav I'm flip flopping, but I think he is more town here.

I don't have a good read about kotp, though not necessarily mafia. I could see him being there, coasting, though, so valid vote target. Chaqa I don't have a good feel for too, need more interaction with him to determine more. Voting there is not wrong.

I'm currently more sus on damo and Brian. First damo had a team of jamie and will, than that totally vanished, and after jamie was targeted N1, it didn't influence anything about will, and suddenly he paired will more with flav. Compare that with ghug being targeted N2 after he uttered him sussing damo. Not likeing it. Very much not liking it.

And I've seen some moves that connect Brian with damo, possibly. I think that there is not an unreasonable chance that both are mafia together.

Sure, could be coincidence and I might read Flav wrongly, but I ain't mafia and maybe I should vote kotp with yoyo but I just read 78 pages of this game and I at least want to express my sus on damo.

so ##vote damo666

Noice. I myself was actually thinking that HB and damo were potentially coasting.
anyways most likely pairing for kak is currently kotp
look at their posts side by side and then tell me im wrong.

well, I'm not on a mafia team with him, but I guess we could be both town. What are your thoughts on kotp for having the post above, and not posting his answers to my questions about the reads? Well, maybe he's just typing a long response, but I think that could've gone much quicker

what post of kotp's?

[kingofthepirates]

good morning.

Kakarroto HAS REPLACED JustAGuyNamedWill

hi kak!
##unvote

ah, heya, good morning!

I would like to ask you, who is currently your biggest town read (ignoring the pr claim for now)? Who is your biggest mafread? And who would you see most likely on a team with your bmr?

town read: I've liked Ham B for a pretty significant part of the game. D1 I feel like he took charge and led a lot of discussion.
maf read: used to be Will, but given he subbed out and your high energy and activity I've reconsidered that. Not good with maf reads ngl, but returning to one of my old posts, I think damo is one of the less towny people on my scale (this is from my N1 post). Chaqa is a possible option, but I liked their D2 participation boost. Flavius's wagon is lukewarm rn for me, I say let him defend himself first then judge based on that (I want to see this specifically before committing to a vote). these last 2 sentences are addressing my next few possibilities for scum.
partner: I want to say dip or will(you), again echoing N1. idk again I'm pretty ass with maf reads, I prefer building town core and judging from that.

I also think though that there's likely scum among the top posters during the day phases (dip fits the bill here, arguably damo too).

[Kakarroto]

also, in case we flip and kotp turns mafia, I think I'm willing to let myself be the sacrifice to get that thought out of your system. If we aren't on our last chance, that is.

Still, as soon as we get one mafia, we should have it more easy to find the other. And I'm not liking what I've seen from the endvotes. Though not all three could be mafia, if I had read the setting correctly.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

good morning.



hi kak!
##unvote

ah, heya, good morning!

I would like to ask you, who is currently your biggest town read (ignoring the pr claim for now)? Who is your biggest mafread? And who would you see most likely on a team with your bmr?

town read: I've liked Ham B for a pretty significant part of the game. D1 I feel like he took charge and led a lot of discussion.
maf read: used to be Will, but given he subbed out and your high energy and activity I've reconsidered that. Not good with maf reads ngl, but returning to one of my old posts, I think damo is one of the less towny people on my scale (this is from my N1 post). Chaqa is a possible option, but I liked their D2 participation boost. Flavius's wagon is lukewarm rn for me, I say let him defend himself first then judge based on that (I want to see this specifically before committing to a vote). these last 2 sentences are addressing my next few possibilities for scum.
partner: I want to say dip or will(you), again echoing N1. idk again I'm pretty ass with maf reads, I prefer building town core and judging from that.

I also think though that there's likely scum among the top posters during the day phases (dip fits the bill here, arguably damo too).

I mean kotp could be scum here
they coast pretty well as maf
but if this isnt an act its almost certainly town
Only thing that feels fishy for me is that he scumreads me, which im probably biased about

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Alr time for me to re-establish reads
From scummiest to towniest because I feel like it:
FA
Chaqa
Unvote
HB
Kak
damo
kotp
NoKill
yoyo
Me

[Kakarroto]

good morning.



hi kak!
##unvote

ah, heya, good morning!

I would like to ask you, who is currently your biggest town read (ignoring the pr claim for now)? Who is your biggest mafread? And who would you see most likely on a team with your bmr?

town read: I've liked Ham B for a pretty significant part of the game. D1 I feel like he took charge and led a lot of discussion.
maf read: used to be Will, but given he subbed out and your high energy and activity I've reconsidered that. Not good with maf reads ngl, but returning to one of my old posts, I think damo is one of the less towny people on my scale (this is from my N1 post). Chaqa is a possible option, but I liked their D2 participation boost. Flavius's wagon is lukewarm rn for me, I say let him defend himself first then judge based on that (I want to see this specifically before committing to a vote). these last 2 sentences are addressing my next few possibilities for scum.
partner: I want to say dip or will(you), again echoing N1. idk again I'm pretty ass with maf reads, I prefer building town core and judging from that.

I also think though that there's likely scum among the top posters during the day phases (dip fits the bill here, arguably damo too).

ok, thanks

that was pretty fast considering the amount, and it looks pretty nice. Yeah, I think kotp isn't mafia based on that. Or at least shouldn't be our first try?

I would love for you to be more involved though, ask some more questions and try to keep a conversation flowing, with one or two people per day, that way it would help you also in your reads.

So I'm right now at people I don't want to vote out today: yoyo, d&w, kotp

so that leaves to sort out damo, chaqa, flav, brian;

kotp thinks brian is town
i think flav it town lean

yoyo, d&w, from those four, who do you think is mafia? Who do you think should we not vote for today?