WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[FlaviusAetius]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by there not being an NK if there’s a tie?

i think flavius is saying that if mafia bets on DK target, and there is a tie, mafia's bet goes sour and thus no NK. somewhat skeptical of this, we should be aiming to shoot mafia as early as possible, regardless of DK bet.

Yea but SOME people think a tie would just be wasted day essentially and technically its actually not

[FlaviusAetius]

I was gonna type up some long thing but basically at EOD I got spooked that the scum team was Dip and Bunny. I also was worried we were about to tie. As it turned out, I could have voted Will, but I was panicking a bit at the DIp/Bunny scumteam I imagined.

? I dont understand this , why are you randomly bringing up a Dip & Bunny wagon, you and Dip and damo all voted basically at the same time so surely not that

[FlaviusAetius]

Ok this is gonna sound insane but I didn’t even remember KotP was in this game

[FlaviusAetius]

I don't understand this. maybe its my just-woke-up brain state but what are you trying to say about my posting patterns? also WDYM minimal?

I think one of you an Chaqa are mafia. There is such a thing as sitting back and letting the more active players cannibalize each other.

Ok but respectfully wtf am I to do (or what do you EXPECT me to do) when the most pivotal and active time of the game (EOD) is when I am totally unreachable? Also when I am around there’s pretty minimal activity? I see your point, but there’s very little I can do, so I’d like to hear what your solution for me is. If I can, I’ll follow it down to the letter.

Read on chaqa for low posting is kinda meh, D2 he’s def improved since D1.

I dont think your actiivty is such a big problem and honestly flash wagons are kinda silly anyways, idk why its become such a big talking point all of a sudden but its SUS that its become a topic now

[FlaviusAetius]

I was gonna type up some long thing but basically at EOD I got spooked that the scum team was Dip and Bunny. I also was worried we were about to tie. As it turned out, I could have voted Will, but I was panicking a bit at the DIp/Bunny scumteam I imagined.

Where’d the dip/bunny team come from? Did I miss that?

100% paranoia in the lead up to eod.

WHEN did you become convinced of the Bunny wagon because you specifically said that you didnt intend to remain on it D1
INFACT
All throughout D2 you were anti-Will, what changed ?

[Hamilton Brian]

Chaqa not looking as good this early D3 but I am sure it will pass.

Alright Damo, here goes.

##Vote Will

##end

[FlaviusAetius]

Where is everyone?

here now. good morning. RIp ghug. I suppose we chalk up kill intention as WOFIM (if I'm using the term correctly)? or does anyone have some revelation there?

WIFOM

Fearkill?
They thought he was Champ?
Cause confusion?

The more interesting fact I'd yoyo remains alive. Reasons that come to mind are:

Yoyo is scum
Yoyo is town but disbelieved him (ghug expressed this, perhaps they thought he wasBB)
To get yoyo killed to farm a bet

OR yoyo got saved why is everyone pretending that cant happen

[FlaviusAetius]

Chaqa not looking as good this early D3 but I am sure it will pass.

Alright Damo, here goes.

##Vote Will

##end

Read what I have been grilling Chaqa on...VERY interesting stuff

[FlaviusAetius]

I was gonna type up some long thing but basically at EOD I got spooked that the scum team was Dip and Bunny. I also was worried we were about to tie. As it turned out, I could have voted Will, but I was panicking a bit at the DIp/Bunny scumteam I imagined.

If this is true and Will is scum then Dip highly unlikely to be his partner. I think it has to be Will and Flav.

X to doubt its true

[FlaviusAetius]

My current S=>T

Will
Chaqa
Flav

kotp
Dip

Ham

yoyo

I have 11 possible scumteams in this order (starting with most likely)

WillFlav
WillChaq

ChaqKotp
ChaqDip
FlavKotp
FlavDip*

KotpDip


HamChaq
HamFlav
HamKotp
HamDip

* Flav currently voting Dip, let's see if he moves

MIGHT vote Chaqa ngl

[FlaviusAetius]

Back to D1

##Vote yoyo

If you’re PR why are you still alive?

Ham I don't think yoyo will fly given i) his claim ii) the likelihood of being a bet target.

I quite like your idea of endvoting as this may screw up the gambler's bets.

Join me on Will and I'll hammer.

huh?
It has zero affect on Gmbler's bets because they cant change them during the day

[Hamilton Brian]

Scum!Chaqa won’t come in after a somewhat better D2 and start bungling like this.

[Hamilton Brian]

Anyway, this is a travel day for us. I’ll be intermittent from now until about 9pm EST. I’ll check in as I can.

[Chaqa]

I was gonna type up some long thing but basically at EOD I got spooked that the scum team was Dip and Bunny. I also was worried we were about to tie. As it turned out, I could have voted Will, but I was panicking a bit at the DIp/Bunny scumteam I imagined.

? I dont understand this , why are you randomly bringing up a Dip & Bunny wagon, you and Dip and damo all voted basically at the same time so surely not that

There were some posts, mostly by Dip near EOD, that made me think he was coordinating to save Bunny. I got super paranoid and panicked. After last game I was kind of in a "oh crap I'm bad at mafia right now, my reads are probably all wrong" mindset.

[Chaqa]

Where’d the dip/bunny team come from? Did I miss that?

100% paranoia in the lead up to eod.

WHEN did you become convinced of the Bunny wagon because you specifically said that you didnt intend to remain on it D1
INFACT
All throughout D2 you were anti-Will, what changed ?

Nothing changed besides paranoia and panic. I would have voted Will but I assumed the votes were shifting that it would be a tie if I did.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

As I see it, the three main perpetrators of the BunnyGo wagon were FA, ghug, and yoyo. It's very unlikely this shitwagon was entirely lead by town.
Yoyo is apparently a pr but isn't dead???
ghug is dead
FA made a set of very bad excuses for the Bunny wagon that was at best a tunnel and at worst a mafia push. Extremely suspicious.

Also, I see a whole bunch of accusations pointed at me.
Yesterday, I did indeed try to tie, as the other option was allowing Bunny to be killed.
Tying > killing someone who is 99% town and who the maf probably bet on the death of
if you don't want me to tie, find a decent wagon instead.

Yes, I did ask yoyo if they were going to unclaim. My goal there was to avoid unecessary cc nonsense - if yoyo was going to unclaim it was better that they did it before someone cc'ed.
Yes, I asked yoyo a relevant question after suggesting we didn't talk during the night. However, it was also after everyone else was trying to talk during the night.

I also seem to be the only one who took a serious look at Bunny's wagon and said "This wagon is shitty."

I would say "fa must die today" but that would probably look like Gambler.
##vote FlaviusAetius
##end

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I was gonna type up some long thing but basically at EOD I got spooked that the scum team was Dip and Bunny. I also was worried we were about to tie. As it turned out, I could have voted Will, but I was panicking a bit at the DIp/Bunny scumteam I imagined.

? I dont understand this , why are you randomly bringing up a Dip & Bunny wagon, you and Dip and damo all voted basically at the same time so surely not that

There were some posts, mostly by Dip near EOD, that made me think he was coordinating to save Bunny. I got super paranoid and panicked. After last game I was kind of in a "oh crap I'm bad at mafia right now, my reads are probably all wrong" mindset.

Correct. I was almost entirely certain that Bunny was town by EoD and would have preferred any of will, yoyo (prior to pr claim), or FA to flip (or a tie) instead of bunny dying. I was coordinating to save a towncore player who was being shitpushed by mafia.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I don't at all blame Will for being on the Bunny wagon yesterday.
He was being wagoned and the FA/yoyo wagons were unstable.
Whereas FA hopped on Bunny before the wagon on him started - and Chaqa hopped on a shitwagon at the end in the name of not tying.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Towncore:
Me
kotp
Yoyo(pr claim)

Towny:
damo

Scummy:
HB
will
yoyo (if he wasnt a pr claim)

PoE:
chaqa
FA

[damo666]

here now. good morning. RIp ghug. I suppose we chalk up kill intention as WOFIM (if I'm using the term correctly)? or does anyone have some revelation there?

WIFOM

Fearkill?
They thought he was Champ?
Cause confusion?

The more interesting fact I'd yoyo remains alive. Reasons that come to mind are:

Yoyo is scum
Yoyo is town but disbelieved him (ghug expressed this, perhaps they thought he wasBB)
To get yoyo killed to farm a bet

OR yoyo got saved why is everyone pretending that cant happen

He can't have been because ghug died. However you have a point. They may have avoided yoyo thinking he would be the subject of a save.