WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[FlaviusAetius]

This whole sequence suggests to me that Flav is unlikely to be scum with Bunny or yoyo, at the very least.

Reading it again here it suggests he knows Yoyo is town though...I can see the follow up if/when Yoyo flips that he tries to use that to push my wagon.

A few moving parts here. Flavius is proposing that IF Bunny=scum 1 then scum 2>yoyo to save.

Next step is scum!Bunny =/= scum!Flavius OR scum!yoyo =/= scum!Flavius

Yeah, so much of this rests on Flavius' assumption yoyo is town.

I mean yea? Thats kinda self evident tho since there are only two mafia

[FlaviusAetius]

This is going to seem like a small thing, but this post by itself is enough for me to town read Hamilton. I've been pretty disengaged from the game due to IRL stuff (having a newborn is way more time consuming than expected lol) and he's the first person to mention me in a bit. I think mafia would be okay letting me fester and be suspicious, whereas Hamilton views me as a good wagon.

Good point. ##VOTE Chaqa

Why is it a good point and reason to vote Chaqa?

I'd like to did deeper into that mafia psychology that would be ok with an invisible Chaqa linger around.

I still dont think the ghug/chaqa mafia is crazy but they have just been so open about it I think its only one

[FlaviusAetius]

I suspect both scum were inactive at EOD smiling to themselves.

There is always a potential for a flash wagon X to doubt a scum would risk it, there was def a scum D1 at EoD just INCASE anything went wrong. Whether they made their presence known or not is IDK

Is X your go to for an unnamed player?

X to doubt is just a saying idk where its from or when I started using it tho

[BunnyGo]

Shit. Something blew up at work. I’m here

[sweetandcool]

Official Vote Count 2.2

BunnyGo (4) FlaviusAetius, ghug, Yoyoyozo, JustAGuyNamedWill
JustAGuyNamedWill (4) Hamilton Brian, BunnyGo, kingofthepirates, DiplomacyandWarfare

FlaviusAetius (2) Chaqa, damo666

Currently nobody is selected to die.

1 hour left of phase.

[FlaviusAetius]

I was not online at EoD. Due to RL circumstances, I was not able to post before Eod. I was not aware of this before EoD and I was planning to return.
If anyone saw me on WebDip between the time that I made my last d1 post and EoD, speak up.
I was not involved in some grand conspiracy to eliminate Haze. I openly scumread Haze and gave my reasons for doing so. Wagoning a scummy player is not a valid reason to scumread me. I consider this topic closed.

On the other hand, I find it very interesting that multiple people suddenly pivoted to Haze at EoD.

What would you have done at EoD ? Yoyo was a viable wagon then, would you have been arguing for Haze ? Me? or flipping to Yoyo?
WHY did you think Haze was so scummy? I think you said on PAGE 12, that Haze wasn't really contributing much.

That's a bit silly coming out of someone who I KNOW knows mafia better than that. I dont doubt you were AFK at EoD for real, but I just wonder would you have changed the day's outcome?

I would have contributed, asked questions, and developed my reads. Whether I would have stayed on Haze would have depended on what I saw at EoD.

huh?? EoD happened its done, go look at it did you not?

[BunnyGo]

Good point. ##VOTE Chaqa

Why is it a good point and reason to vote Chaqa?

I'd like to did deeper into that mafia psychology that would be ok with an invisible Chaqa linger around.

I still dont think the ghug/chaqa mafia is crazy but they have just been so open about it I think its only one

You think exactly one of them is scum?

[BunnyGo]

What would you have done at EoD ? Yoyo was a viable wagon then, would you have been arguing for Haze ? Me? or flipping to Yoyo?
WHY did you think Haze was so scummy? I think you said on PAGE 12, that Haze wasn't really contributing much.

That's a bit silly coming out of someone who I KNOW knows mafia better than that. I dont doubt you were AFK at EoD for real, but I just wonder would you have changed the day's outcome?

I would have contributed, asked questions, and developed my reads. Whether I would have stayed on Haze would have depended on what I saw at EoD.

huh?? EoD happened its done, go look at it did you not?

Huh?

[FlaviusAetius]

I MOVE TO DISMISS INVESTIGATION AS TO WHY THE MAFIA KILLED JAMIET
this is meaningless WIFOM and the only two people who know why the mafia did kill jamie will be lying and manipulating us
+1 this post to agree

Well they killed him for some reason, and that SHOULD inform your D2 no matter which side of the coin you end up on

[FlaviusAetius]

Why is it a good point and reason to vote Chaqa?

I'd like to did deeper into that mafia psychology that would be ok with an invisible Chaqa linger around.

I still dont think the ghug/chaqa mafia is crazy but they have just been so open about it I think its only one

You think exactly one of them is scum?

yes

[BunnyGo]

Reading it again here it suggests he knows Yoyo is town though...I can see the follow up if/when Yoyo flips that he tries to use that to push my wagon.

A few moving parts here. Flavius is proposing that IF Bunny=scum 1 then scum 2>yoyo to save.

Next step is scum!Bunny =/= scum!Flavius OR scum!yoyo =/= scum!Flavius

Yeah, so much of this rests on Flavius' assumption yoyo is town.

I mean yea? Thats kinda self evident tho since there are only two mafia

But you’re sure yo-yo is town?

[BunnyGo]

I still dont think the ghug/chaqa mafia is crazy but they have just been so open about it I think its only one

You think exactly one of them is scum?

yes

Which?

[FlaviusAetius]

I would have contributed, asked questions, and developed my reads. Whether I would have stayed on Haze would have depended on what I saw at EoD.

huh?? EoD happened its done, go look at it did you not?

Huh?

Hes saying he doesnt know waht he would have done at EoD regarding Haze, except EoD did happen so why doesnt he know what he would do

[FlaviusAetius]

You think exactly one of them is scum?

yes

Which?

Im not sure I lean Chaqa but I cant say

[BunnyGo]

Fuck i really hate that wagon though

I do believe much of my wagon is scum…yes.

[BunnyGo]

yes

Which?

Im not sure I lean Chaqa but I cant say

And yoyo is town.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

@dip that WAS Bunny's D1 so if the case is just about that then idk what you want me to tell you

Sure. Some of that does accurately describe Bunny's D1, but it's a little bit exaggerated. I think you're tunneling Bunny.
1. Bunny's posts were higher quality than Haze's, and that's not the only reason Bunny had for scumreading Haze.
2. No, this is just false. Bunny went back and forth on Haze. Also, he was under pressure of being killed himself. I don't blame him for throwing his vote at the 2nd wagon.
3. I don't think you know what "vibes" means.
4. You literally admit here that you won't even make the effort to look at Bunny's previous games. Why? Are you afraid you'll find something that disagrees with your tunnelread of Bunny?

Night: Good. We really shouldn't be giving the scum PRs extra info during the night.

5. This is worded really terribly. From what I can gather Bunny missed something and you think he was ignoring it?
6. Again, not responding during the night is good. I will look into this, though.

[BunnyGo]

I think Flav is imploding.

##vote flav

[FlaviusAetius]

Why is it a good point and reason to vote Chaqa?

I'd like to did deeper into that mafia psychology that would be ok with an invisible Chaqa linger around.

I’d like to hear from ghug his reasoning, but since I’m also voting chaqa, I’ll throw out my 2 cents. I’ve detailed my reasoning before, and I stick by that firmly, since nothing so far indicates to me that chaqa will change. I get RL circumstances, but for now, chaqa is a liability as town, and a coaster as mafia.

I think the idea is that if chaqa is town, his sheeping can be easily weaponized if manipulated right. If scum is able to convince whoever chaqa decides to sheep to vote some way, it’s effectively a 2 for 1 package of mis votes. Also he’s an easy miskill target for scum to divert attention to in late game when they need a miskill shield for a phase.

Voting for someone despite most of your reasons being that they are a bad town is WILD to me. You gotta come up with reaosns why Chaqa is a mafia my man

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

What would you have done at EoD ? Yoyo was a viable wagon then, would you have been arguing for Haze ? Me? or flipping to Yoyo?
WHY did you think Haze was so scummy? I think you said on PAGE 12, that Haze wasn't really contributing much.

That's a bit silly coming out of someone who I KNOW knows mafia better than that. I dont doubt you were AFK at EoD for real, but I just wonder would you have changed the day's outcome?

I would have contributed, asked questions, and developed my reads. Whether I would have stayed on Haze would have depended on what I saw at EoD.

huh?? EoD happened its done, go look at it did you not?

I can't retroactively ask questions and do reaction tests. I did look at the EoD but I think it was poorly executed because half the players were absent.