WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[Chaqa]

HamB is now my top townread.

Likewise.

However, I am concerned that he might be scum since he lived past N1

Same could be said of you or ghug!

Que? I don’t believe either of us has a history of being early night hills.

I was mostly making a joke that he didn’t die on day one like he usually does

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

@Chaqa @yoyo @Will @damo
stop lurking

Lurking is when you sit in the thread reading and decide not to post.

I am not lurking.

We had breakfast with my parents, fixed a broken lightswitch, I mowed and weedwhacked, fed the baby, took care of the animals, ate some dinner, and took a shower.

I have a life. The weekends are busy for me.

This is your second day of low contributions. Do you need to sub out?
Like I get missing some of the game due to RL stuff - I was out Eod1 bc something came up - but when you sign up for a game you make a commitment to either play or sub out, and you haven't been doing much of the first.

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa @yoyo @Will @damo
stop lurking

Lurking is when you sit in the thread reading and decide not to post.

I am not lurking.

We had breakfast with my parents, fixed a broken lightswitch, I mowed and weedwhacked, fed the baby, took care of the animals, ate some dinner, and took a shower.

I have a life. The weekends are busy for me.

This is your second day of low contributions. Do you need to sub out?
Like I get missing some of the game due to RL stuff - I was out Eod1 bc something came up - but when you sign up for a game you make a commitment to either play or sub out, and you haven't been doing much of the first.

I should be more active going forward. It was a weird day 1

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I know it's traditional to write a poem, but I'm not much of a poet. How about a mysterious riddle?

your IVTRSAWQSJDNGDOFD million
he TIVNEMPTEGMJTOUDH second
their HEIJODJOJOIDVSBCJOI twenty
mine FDIJUHJIOOJHKMCXUP perfect
thy DFSDMTKGPFANJTGHKL story
she's NUBVDGFTOIEDVFTGHE welcome
him IOTGMCETHGBTOKGBID pizza
you OJDFMGHTEJXHZNWQO crystal
me MKYODFYYNDJIKDCYDC fear

[damo666]

Likewise.

However, I am concerned that he might be scum since he lived past N1

Same could be said of you or ghug!

Que? I don’t believe either of us has a history of being early night hills.

I was mostly making a joke that he didn’t die on day one like he usually does

I know you were. I was making the meme that Chaqa/ghug surviving to D2 is autosuss.

[damo666]

I know it's traditional to write a poem, but I'm not much of a poet. How about a mysterious riddle?

your IVTRSAWQSJDNGDOFD million
he TIVNEMPTEGMJTOUDH second
their HEIJODJOJOIDVSBCJOI twenty
mine FDIJUHJIOOJHKMCXUP perfect
thy DFSDMTKGPFANJTGHKL story
she's NUBVDGFTOIEDVFTGHE welcome
him IOTGMCETHGBTOKGBID pizza
you OJDFMGHTEJXHZNWQO crystal
me MKYODFYYNDJIKDCYDC fear

##vote Dip because I cba

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I know it's traditional to write a poem, but I'm not much of a poet. How about a mysterious riddle?

your IVTRSAWQSJDNGDOFD million
he TIVNEMPTEGMJTOUDH second
their HEIJODJOJOIDVSBCJOI twenty
mine FDIJUHJIOOJHKMCXUP perfect
thy DFSDMTKGPFANJTGHKL story
she's NUBVDGFTOIEDVFTGHE welcome
him IOTGMCETHGBTOKGBID pizza
you OJDFMGHTEJXHZNWQO crystal
me MKYODFYYNDJIKDCYDC fear

##vote Dip because I cba

Don't worry about it.

[sweetandcool]

I DISAGREE, if Gambler fails on anything BUT the identity of the DK target and the postcount, THEN they reveal themselves or die . IMO this is going to be a game filled with DK's and few NK's.

That is a pretty good point, and it requires a posting of the role so we are all clear. Not sure that makes you a bit more on the town side for bringing it up, but it doesn't hurt.

From the doc:

Bet on Champion Identity:

Success: Gain a use of steroids and immunity from DK for the following day phase. Will not be able to make this bet again.

Failure: Dies end of next night phase.

NOTE: This bet resolves End of Night. That is, Gambler will be notified of the outcome when night ends.

Bet on Identity of DK Target:

Success: Immunity from DK for the following phase. After two successes cannot make this bet anymore.

Failure: Mafia loses the NK for a phase.

NOTE: This bet resolves End of Day. The Immunity from DK is activated for the following phase.

Bet on Player’s Post Count for the Day:

Success: If exactly correct, can set a post limit of their choice that the targeted player must follow for the following phase. That player will not be aware of the post limit set upon themself (unless that limit is zero in which case the player will be informed EoN that they are muted for the phase). If their guess is within 15 posts, they can limit the player's post count the following day to 15 less than the current day's post count.

Failure: Every two failures will reduce the Gambler's post count limit by 10. First, a limit of 80 posts will be established. Then after two more failures the limit will be 70, then after two more it will be 60, and so on.

NOTE: This bet resolves end of day and its effect activates the next day phase.

Bet on Player’s EoD Vote:

Success: Target Player’s vote does not count.

Failure: Gambler’s vote does not count.

NOTE: This bet resolves and its effect activates end of day.

how does a failed eod vote identify the gambler?
it seems like it would only identify that one of the players on the wagon of the gambler either got successfullly eod vote-betted or is the gambler
##call gm
what happens if the drug dealer doubles the gambler's vote but the gambler loses a bet on who someone else will vote for at EoD?

Good question. The math I am using is 2*0=0.

That is, Gambler's vote will not count.

[Hamilton Brian]

I DISAGREE, if Gambler fails on anything BUT the identity of the DK target and the postcount, THEN they reveal themselves or die . IMO this is going to be a game filled with DK's and few NK's.

That is a pretty good point, and it requires a posting of the role so we are all clear. Not sure that makes you a bit more on the town side for bringing it up, but it doesn't hurt.

From the doc:

Bet on Champion Identity:

Success: Gain a use of steroids and immunity from DK for the following day phase. Will not be able to make this bet again.

Failure: Dies end of next night phase.

NOTE: This bet resolves End of Night. That is, Gambler will be notified of the outcome when night ends.

Bet on Identity of DK Target:

Success: Immunity from DK for the following phase. After two successes cannot make this bet anymore.

Failure: Mafia loses the NK for a phase.

NOTE: This bet resolves End of Day. The Immunity from DK is activated for the following phase.

Bet on Player’s Post Count for the Day:

Success: If exactly correct, can set a post limit of their choice that the targeted player must follow for the following phase. That player will not be aware of the post limit set upon themself (unless that limit is zero in which case the player will be informed EoN that they are muted for the phase). If their guess is within 15 posts, they can limit the player's post count the following day to 15 less than the current day's post count.

Failure: Every two failures will reduce the Gambler's post count limit by 10. First, a limit of 80 posts will be established. Then after two more failures the limit will be 70, then after two more it will be 60, and so on.

NOTE: This bet resolves end of day and its effect activates the next day phase.

Bet on Player’s EoD Vote:

Success: Target Player’s vote does not count.

Failure: Gambler’s vote does not count.

NOTE: This bet resolves and its effect activates end of day.

how does a failed eod vote identify the gambler?
it seems like it would only identify that one of the players on the wagon of the gambler either got successfullly eod vote-betted or is the gambler
##call gm
what happens if the drug dealer doubles the gambler's vote but the gambler loses a bet on who someone else will vote for at EoD?

Might not reveal them outright but there’s then a pool out of which the gambler sits.

My worry is that gambler and other mafia collided on a bet and the other mafia member has to see it through. Not so much a worry as I can’t even begin to give a shit about gambler stuff but something to note.

I haven’t considered what ways some connections can be made yet.

[ghug]

This is going to seem like a small thing, but this post by itself is enough for me to town read Hamilton. I've been pretty disengaged from the game due to IRL stuff (having a newborn is way more time consuming than expected lol) and he's the first person to mention me in a bit. I think mafia would be okay letting me fester and be suspicious, whereas Hamilton views me as a good wagon.

Good point. ##VOTE Chaqa

Why is it a good point and reason to vote Chaqa?

I'd like to did deeper into that mafia psychology that would be ok with an invisible Chaqa linger around.

Invisible Chaqa is a nonentity who's useful to the Mafia late.

I'm mostly meming though.

[ghug]

My reads haven't evolved terribly. Ham is town. Dip/Flav feel like town. I 100% would have killed Flav last night to stop the bolding, so I'm town unless he's my teammate. My heart is telling me that damo is town, so I'd like to give him another day despite his questionable voting. Yoyo should probably be avoided for bet reasons. Anyone else is fair game.

Excluding those you listed above, minus Flavius, do you have a hierarchy of desired kill from most wanted to least wanted?

Gun to my head:
Bunny
Chaqa
Will
Pirates

[ghug]

The thread is dying
this is not acceptable
##VOTE HAMILTONBRIAN

No

[ghug]

I’m gonna go against the grain a little and say I feel like Flavius feels much less like his town game from last game and more like his scum game from two games ago.

I suspect Jamie was killed as the top town poster. Nothing less, nothing more. I think scum!Flav is looking to dominate the game thread.

Scum partner maybe Yo-yo?

Can you provide examples or at least more explanation of this thought?

[ghug]

woops didnt mean to bold that whole thing

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[ghug]

btw @ghug I AM trying to lessen the amount of stuff I bold just saying

As a bold man once said, X to DOUBT

[ghug]

My reads haven't evolved terribly. Ham is town. Dip/Flav feel like town. I 100% would have killed Flav last night to stop the bolding, so I'm town unless he's my teammate. My heart is telling me that damo is town, so I'd like to give him another day despite his questionable voting. Yoyo should probably be avoided for bet reasons. Anyone else is fair game.

Im not so sure about your read on Dip. He was scumread D1 , and comes in D2 with some mech analysis and big post, could just be trying to get the heat off himself. I dont think townreading/scumreading people for ONE post is such a great idea.

I'm not townreading him for one post. I townread him yesterday. The mech post is good and I think in general it's a better look to do something like that D2 than D1, but it doesn't move the needle much.

[ghug]

Every game I've played with damo so far he's always done something CRAZY and turned up town. Maybe he'll turn up scum this time around but no way hosay am I voting damo for his ONE crazy thing.

To be clear, is not that he did something crazy and confusing, it's that usually I buyv that he believes his justifications for the craziness. His mind works strangely but he usually gives me enough to follow his thought processes.

When he's scum, he'll often make very bold scum-motivated moves in the moment and then try to invent justification for them later.

The switch off Yoyo feels like the latter, but I'm also feeling the former in everything else he's saying.

Disagree ANYTIME damo makes one of his crazy actions I dont understand his reasonings hence why they are crazy

I didn't say you could understand them, I said I could.

[ghug]

That's funny because your timing wasn't in that critical condition; there was time to assess.

You originally stated that you believed there was scum in the 3 wagons of Haze, Will, and Flavius. What do you believe now?

You actually addressed voting Haze and yoyo both in your "reads" post, so good for you for sticking to it, I guess. However there was no indication about "why" for either one. Why not?

Your votes came without qualification, as though you weren't convinced about either one.

This, for example
I am frustrated because both you and jamie have been passive-aggressively criticizing everyone.
I get that you're trying to find scum, but you're doing it in a way that isn't cooperative at all.

Someone else chime in here if my communication style is as Dip is presenting it.

I feel like I am being gaslit here.

You can't have it both ways Dip.

What motivation do you have to declare me scum BUT AT THE SAME TIME hunting scum?

How does that even make sense?

What is your motivation?

I am noticing you being a little more forceful than normal. I don't think it's coming from a scummy place, though.

[ghug]

I know it's traditional to write a poem, but I'm not much of a poet. How about a mysterious riddle?

your IVTRSAWQSJDNGDOFD million
he TIVNEMPTEGMJTOUDH second
their HEIJODJOJOIDVSBCJOI twenty
mine FDIJUHJIOOJHKMCXUP perfect
thy DFSDMTKGPFANJTGHKL story
she's NUBVDGFTOIEDVFTGHE welcome
him IOTGMCETHGBTOKGBID pizza
you OJDFMGHTEJXHZNWQO crystal
me MKYODFYYNDJIKDCYDC fear

I feel like I should vote for this.

[Yoyoyozo]

I’ve been really liking the quality of posts you’ve been making but you need to post more often, even if they’re just jokes. The gambler can take advantage of your consistency unfortunately

I know I get wrapped up in my own tinfoil head most of the time but this seems like some coaching from yoyo.

Maybe it’s something I naturally do. I don’t recall ever playing with kotp so I don’t know if they’re new or not. I’m definitely not above explaining parts of the game, and I’ve done so before. I think this is beneficial overall, not that he ever came off as clueless. Just some mechanics are specific to certain setups so it’s hard to keep track of what to pay attention to.