WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[BunnyGo]

Vote Bunny, save yourself Bunny started the wagon on you and didnt even explain it well

Flav encouraging a tie

NO, Im encouraging others to vote yoyozo, because its pretty clear yoyozo is going to self preserve

@flav please don't change your signature during the game

[BunnyGo]

Strange of Bunny to vote for both Haze and myself, given Haze lacks the experience and confidence to defend himself, and me lacking attention to the thread. Low hanging fruit?

PoE. I tried for Flav in the end. So this is a slight misrepresentation by you.

You tried for someone else towards the end without putting any effort into gaining traction for them? If true, slight misrepresentation turns negligible

Would you rather I vote for myself? That was the other option available to me:

1) Yoyo
2) Haze
3) New wagon
4) Self immolate

I don't see your point when you think every option makes me look scummy. Perhaps you should investigate your thoughts a bit more.

[BunnyGo]

I meant are you worried for yourself. You're only one behind after all.

I mean, a little. I think ghug is weird for pushing this hard for stupid reasons (nobody voting for bunny! Scum! Oh…people voting him so he’s town. Scummy!)

Also I’m sitting g down to Shabbat dinner so might not be around

You always say that your not garnering suspicion is a good indicator that you're scum.. Why is it stupid when I say it?

You seemed weirdly fine and unbothersome D1. That's weird.

It's a short game; couldn't play D1 the way I prefer...and look where it got me: almost broke my streak of not being miskilled.

[BunnyGo]

IF Bunny turns up mafia I suspect another mafia went onto Yoyo to try to save Bunny

This whole sequence suggests to me that Flav is unlikely to be scum with Bunny or yoyo, at the very least.

Reading it again here it suggests he knows Yoyo is town though...I can see the follow up if/when Yoyo flips that he tries to use that to push my wagon.

[BunnyGo]

Flav encouraging a tie

I’d speed flav

Because you agreed with damo's assessment or because you scumread him for something else?

He reminds me of his last scum game.

The vibe I was getting was "look how helpful I'm being...oh no...you screwed it up...well, did you notice how I was helping? I told you they were town..." while knowing all the wagons were town.

[BunnyGo]

I suspect both scum were inactive at EOD smiling to themselves.

agreed; or Flav

[BunnyGo]

Alright here is my thought-through read list, in order:

---town---
DipandWar
kotp
BunnyGo ~ Will
HB
---null line---
FA (note: has not contributed)
ghug = damo = yoyoyozo (note: low-quality contributions)
Chaqa (note: wants to sheep)
---"I would be happy to wagon without external pressure" line---
Jamiet
Haze with a Z
---scum---

Dip really leans hard into the belief that Haze is mafia.
I understand getting the worm in the brain, even when it's wrong.

He was wrong about Jamie too.

[BunnyGo]

When I ask Yoyoyozo a question, Dip&War answers it.

When I ask Dip&War a question, Yoyoyozo answers it.

Interesting.

This is interesting

[BunnyGo]

When I ask Yoyoyozo a question, Dip&War answers it.

When I ask Dip&War a question, Yoyoyozo answers it.

Interesting.

This is interesting

But not because I think it pairs them (which is what I assume jamie--rip old chum--was implying)

[BunnyGo]

I think you're missing that Jamie's indignant because he was being linked to Haze, not because he was necessarily totally confident in Haze being town.

Exactly, thanks Ghug.

D&W's initial thinking was, as I understood it:

1. Haze is certainly scum
2. Jamiet made a post defending Haze
3. Therefore Jamiet is scum for defending a scum.

Now (1) has been proven to be false, yet D&W is apparently still keen on the idea that I am scum, I was asking D&W, specifically (not Yozo) to review his thinking for me.

I think you're missing that stubbornness is townie.

100% this

but helpful/kind/understanding ghug is scummy ghug....

I'm worried

[BunnyGo]

Where did everybody go?

I was busy with company and shabbat and then went to an awesome dinner/art installation/dance party at a farm.

I have to get up in 8 hours to go kayaking for 8 hours on the ocean tomorrow...so...might not see much of me.

[BunnyGo]

ALSO
Hey hey Ho ho Bunny's got to go!

You could put that as your signature, that would be funny.

you know this is against the rules....maybe Jamie was modkilled?

[BunnyGo]

That was a real big run to get yoyo off the block.

I get the argument to kill yoyo was bunk and loose with the read, but to lead on over to Haze...meh.

Yoyo switched off to HAZE instead of Bunny
Bunny switched off of Yoyo to HAZE
Damo switched off of Yoyo to Haze

Bunny could be said self-preservation reasons, but that certainly wasn't made clear
Damo does sus stuff all the time I need more than just EoD shennanigans
Yoyo has yet to explain why he didnt vote for Bunny...

I *FOLLOWED* damo back to Haze.

I'd been having doubts about Haze being scum and tried for yoyo and you instead.

But I did vote Haze because I was the only other viable wagon at that point; when nobody was around to vote at EOD.

[BunnyGo]

Strange of Bunny to vote for both Haze and myself, given Haze lacks the experience and confidence to defend himself, and me lacking attention to the thread. Low hanging fruit?

PoE. I tried for Flav in the end. So this is a slight misrepresentation by you.

You do realize, it was just damo, me you and yoyo on at EoD and yoyo came late . X to doubt yoyo would vote for me after I spent significant time trying to defend him. That wasnt a serious wagon and you know it

I did not know who would show up; there's usually a bunch of people showing up in the last 5 minutes. And speedwagons happen regularly.

[BunnyGo]

You have any clues Damo?

Not really. Looks like a PR stab kill to me.

I was thinking activity sapper.

[BunnyGo]

Probably meant as a kill to finger Damo and bunny too.

Well if you exclude me, Bunny, Dip and yoyo looking at Haze voters that leaves Will.

Could Will be scum?

##vote Just

I'm reconsidering my scumread of flav too; he's pushing my wagon too hard.

Just/ghug start sneaking into the PoE then...

[BunnyGo]

First order of business:
My analysis of mech (which I have not yet shared) suggests postcount bets are likely, along with vote bets
its also likely that, if the Gambler succeeded, they chose to set a limit of 0 posts (except 1 vote post)
lets see if the gambler postcapped anyone
EVERYONE PLEASE POST AT LEAST ONCE
this seems like a good step to take and has no real disadvantage
IF YOU HAVE BEEN 0-POSTCAPPED DO NOT POST AND SAVE YOUR VOTE

Second order of business:
way too many people were posting scumreads of yoyo during the night. A maf bet on either votes on yoyo or on yoyo being maf is extremely likely and therefore voting yoyo is a bad idea
(I realize this is probably going to make it look like me and yoyo are paired especially after jamie implied that suspicion. I don't care.)

Third order of business:
Can someone please explain the Bunny wagon from yesterday to me?

Fourth order of business:
I recommend pairs of people "swap" their votes by voting for each other's votes at EoD, to make bets on people's votes fail.

wait...the bet is on whom someone is voting for?! Not whom the town eliminates?

1) Setting a 0 postcap is silly; it townclears someone.

2) We may all want to get votes out in case we are postcapped and can't vote (##CALL GM: if you're surprised postcapped and haven't voted what happens?)
##vote ghug

3) Bunny draws flak when he talks day 1 as town

[BunnyGo]

See you nerds in 24 hours or so.

[kingofthepirates]

When I ask Yoyoyozo a question, Dip&War answers it.

When I ask Dip&War a question, Yoyoyozo answers it.

Interesting.

This is interesting

But not because I think it pairs them (which is what I assume jamie--rip old chum--was implying)

I don't see it as anything other than jamie's implication, could you please tell us more? do you think one is scum buddying the other?

[Hamilton Brian]

Alright here is my thought-through read list, in order:

---town---
DipandWar
kotp
BunnyGo ~ Will
HB
---null line---
FA (note: has not contributed)
ghug = damo = yoyoyozo (note: low-quality contributions)
Chaqa (note: wants to sheep)
---"I would be happy to wagon without external pressure" line---
Jamiet
Haze with a Z
---scum---

Dip really leans hard into the belief that Haze is mafia.
I understand getting the worm in the brain, even when it's wrong.

He was wrong about Jamie too.

Which is why i am willing to give Dip some latitude today.

I think anyone that Jamie ruffled or vice versa, I don’t think I’ll consider them today. Yoyo, Dip, bunny, Damo.

I am thinking mafia made that kill to implicate any of that group. I am looking elsewhere to vote today.