WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[Jamiet99uk]

Agreed. My vote stays on Will unless he comes up with an explanation. Makes no sense to me.

And yet, he has not properly explained it, and yet, you moved your vote.

Yes, Flav was annoying me. I may move back. We''ll see.

annoying =/= scum

[BunnyGo]

ghug and damo are voting out of pure annoyance.

Jamie is voting because he thinks Just is dumb.

Haze is voting because of Just's opening and he's seen no reason to change it?

kotp is voting chaqa because of chaqa's NAI sheeping post

Everyone else is voting Haze for vibes.


Nobody is voting Yoyo despite the weird few posts.


I'm not sure what I make of this.

[Jamiet99uk]

ghug and damo are voting out of pure annoyance.

Jamie is voting because he thinks Just is dumb.

Haze is voting because of Just's opening and he's seen no reason to change it?

kotp is voting chaqa because of chaqa's NAI sheeping post

Everyone else is voting Haze for vibes.

Nobody is voting Yoyo despite the weird few posts.

I'm not sure what I make of this.

You describe your own reason for voting as "vibes" ?

(You are one of the Haze voters).

[ghug]

ghug and damo are voting out of pure annoyance.

Jamie is voting because he thinks Just is dumb.

Haze is voting because of Just's opening and he's seen no reason to change it?

kotp is voting chaqa because of chaqa's NAI sheeping post

Everyone else is voting Haze for vibes.


Nobody is voting Yoyo despite the weird few posts.


I'm not sure what I make of this.

Good point, ##VOTE Bunny

[Jamiet99uk]

Bunny says that all the votes on Haze (including his own, apparently) are for "vibes". Yet clearly D&W is not pushing Haze for "vibes", but has been trying to make an actual case (it's a poor case, but it exists).

Earlier, BunnyGo joined the Haze wagon and specifically said that it was because he agreed with D&W's posts about Haze.

But now it's just "vibes".

That seems off to me.

Added to Ghug's earlier point, I am thinking ##Vote Bunny

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

(And I'm not being mean, I'm just not in the mood for someone scumreading me in his first post for a silly reason, and then locking in on me as certain scum for daring to question his read on someone else (when I *know* he is wrong on me)).

fair. This is the sort of thing that does cause tunneling. On the other hand, I'm certainly not the only person who scumreads haze, and the wagon is pretty reasonable. Your posts looks very much like a scum trying to draw suspicion off his partner.
Also, I don't even remember what I voted you for earlier. I think it was a joke. Either way, it's unrelated to my current read on you.

He’d not be that blatant

You mean like he'd divert attention to someone else, preferably someone who wasn't going to defend themselves?

So here's a thing.

Flavius has STILL not posted. He's been online multiple times since the game started. I think I'm in a game with him, even.

##Vote FlaviusAetius

...

[Chaqa]

Also continuing sheeting
##vote Haze

Jeez how high was I to misspell sheep

[Chaqa]

Also TWICE now Chaqa has said he is going to catch up on the game and has yet to do so

That isn't true on either count. I got caught up both times.

[BunnyGo]

ghug and damo are voting out of pure annoyance.

Jamie is voting because he thinks Just is dumb.

Haze is voting because of Just's opening and he's seen no reason to change it?

kotp is voting chaqa because of chaqa's NAI sheeping post

Everyone else is voting Haze for vibes.

Nobody is voting Yoyo despite the weird few posts.

I'm not sure what I make of this.

You describe your own reason for voting as "vibes" ?

(You are one of the Haze voters).

Yes.

His posts seem filler; mech focused; self defense oriented; off balance. But at the end of the day: vibes.

This may be normal town!Haze. I can’t convince myself yet it isn’t.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Reading the setup now; that Gambler role reads like high risk, high reward. But bet wrong on the champion and it's "gone-zo." Fun.

And I am not Gambler.

That's exactly what the actual Gambler would say.

Claiming not to be a specific scum role is not very useful really, is it Brian?

That isnt what he meant tho, he meant that if he was Gambler he would not be using the role because its a high risk high reward type person

FA townslips because the Gambler must use their ability. I'm inclined to think this is real.

[Chaqa]

I posit that if Bunny were town, more people would want to vote for him.

The lack of interest proves he's scum. Thank you and good day.

OUT: sheeping D&W
IN: sheeping ghug

##Vote Bunny

[BunnyGo]

That's exactly what the actual Gambler would say.

Claiming not to be a specific scum role is not very useful really, is it Brian?

That isnt what he meant tho, he meant that if he was Gambler he would not be using the role because its a high risk high reward type person

FA townslips because the Gambler must use their ability. I'm inclined to think this is real.

Not N0 he didn’t.

[BunnyGo]

I posit that if Bunny were town, more people would want to vote for him.

The lack of interest proves he's scum. Thank you and good day.

OUT: sheeping D&W
IN: sheeping ghug

##Vote Bunny

Sadly I think my whole wagon is town. Thus fulfilling my towntell that ghug was missing before.

[Chaqa]

Situation:

The Gambler gets a N0 action and not all players have noticed that this is the case.

This information is contained in (a) the Setup Document, and (b) the Gambler's Role PM.

In both (a) and (b) the information is assumed to be word-for-word identical.


The 'Test':

Will noticed that I was aware of the fact that the Gambler gets a N0 action.

Will claims he set up a reaction test, to try to discover whether I read this information in (a) the Setup Document, or (b) the Gambler's Role PM. (Since if the answer is (b), then I am scum).


The flaw in this 'Test':

If the information is EXACTLY THE SAME in both sources, then why would I respond differently to the test in case (b), compared to case (a)??

Will, please explain why Scum!Jamie, who is in possession of the Gambler Role PM, would react totally differently, in your test, to Town!Jamie who has read the EXACT SAME WORDS in the Setup Document.

What was the scum reaction that you were looking for, in the even that your test would have caught me as scum?

Jamie caught, lockscum gg

[Jamiet99uk]

fair. This is the sort of thing that does cause tunneling. On the other hand, I'm certainly not the only person who scumreads haze, and the wagon is pretty reasonable. Your posts looks very much like a scum trying to draw suspicion off his partner.
Also, I don't even remember what I voted you for earlier. I think it was a joke. Either way, it's unrelated to my current read on you.

He’d not be that blatant

You mean like he'd divert attention to someone else, preferably someone who wasn't going to defend themselves?

So here's a thing.

Flavius has STILL not posted. He's been online multiple times since the game started. I think I'm in a game with him, even.

##Vote FlaviusAetius

...

You have a short memory, don't you?

This was your original reaction to me voting for Flavius:

##Vote Flavius

heck yeah!
##vote flavius

[Jamiet99uk]

ghug and damo are voting out of pure annoyance.

Jamie is voting because he thinks Just is dumb.

Haze is voting because of Just's opening and he's seen no reason to change it?

kotp is voting chaqa because of chaqa's NAI sheeping post

Everyone else is voting Haze for vibes.

Nobody is voting Yoyo despite the weird few posts.

I'm not sure what I make of this.

You describe your own reason for voting as "vibes" ?

(You are one of the Haze voters).

Yes.

His posts seem filler; mech focused; self defense oriented; off balance. But at the end of the day: vibes.

This may be normal town!Haze. I can’t convince myself yet it isn’t.

Not the reason you originally gave for your vote, though.

[Jamiet99uk]

Attention:

The Gambler gets a N0 action and not all players have noticed that this is the case.

This information is contained in (a) the Setup Document, and (b) the Gambler's Role PM.

In both (a) and (b) the information is assumed to be word-for-word identical.


Interest':

Will noticed that I was aware of the fact that the Gambler gets a N0 action.

Will claims he set up a reaction test, to try to discover whether I read this information in (a) the Setup Document, or (b) the Gambler's Role PM. (Since if the answer is (b), then I am scum).


Decision:

If the information is EXACTLY THE SAME in both sources, then why would I respond differently to the test in case (b), compared to case (a)??

Will, please explain why Scum!Jamie, who is in possession of the Gambler Role PM, would react totally differently, in your test, to Town!Jamie who has read the EXACT SAME WORDS in the Setup Document.

What was the scum reaction that you were looking for, in the even that your test would have caught me as scum?

Action
Jamie caught, lockscum gg

Are you still high?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Haze with a Z is scummy for pontificating about the difference between gambling and betting instead of looking for scum.

What's scummier? Haze pontificating or your calling attention to it?

Haze was talking about something irrelevant. I made a read and explained it. Take your pick.

[BunnyGo]

You describe your own reason for voting as "vibes" ?

(You are one of the Haze voters).

Yes.

His posts seem filler; mech focused; self defense oriented; off balance. But at the end of the day: vibes.

This may be normal town!Haze. I can’t convince myself yet it isn’t.

Not the reason you originally gave for your vote, though.

Yes. He’s posted more since then. I honestly couldn’t tell you without checking what I said. It was something that kotp had said I agreed with.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

What is there to like about it and why do you like it?

Excellent question.

His attitude about lurkers is good - pressuring them into participating
His reads on Bunny, Will, and especially Chaqa are very similar to my own.
kotp also writes this post very well, for example adding the last sentence which is basically a tldr

so kotp is contributing in positive ways and his reads seem organic and accurate.

Ok, pressure on lurkers is good. Get in the game, goddamnit!!!

Sharing similar reads? Ok, I am not there yet.

I guess it's a reasonable guess on chaqa; I just don't feel it that way yet. So I disagree.

Low-level buddying, though. Question is, "Why?"

Are you accusing me of buddying kotp, or are you accusing kotp of buddying me?