WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

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@Will:

Why would scum!Jamie not know the setup correctly, and fall for your trap?

This is a better thread to pull at than the dishonesty thing.

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I cannot UNDERSTAND why Flavius is NOT <<participating>>, can YOU? [In] the last _game_ HE was VERY active so this is NOT like HIM at ALL.

I don’t want to shoot the lurker D1. Personal policy ofc. But I don’t see why some pressure can’t be applied. There’s the modkill threat for non-posters, but let’s turn up the heat and push discussion. ##vote flavius
For my own 2 cents on everyone else: I don’t like chaqa saying he’s fine with sheeping. Im slightly unnerved by will for instantly jumping in and offering to have chaqa sheep him. I don’t see what will and bunnygo see when they insta town me a few messages in (bunny agrees with will calling me town so I assume this is his view). I slightly suspect that one might be mafia trying to pocket (or buddy? Idk the difference…) me. Something like this happened before. Wills town game feels very friendly, I’m inclined to say NIA.

Person I am currently most likely to vote at EOD: chaqa (sets up an easy coast with his willingness to be sheeped,which could end up a liability if he’s actually town too).

Believe you me, if Im lurking something is wrong IRL, I will always make time for mafia, Im kinda addicted LOL

Except when you saw that there were six pages and elected not to interact.

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Hi Will.

Would you be interested in voting Bunny?

[FlaviusAetius]

It was an inference that i made due to thinking i know how king plays

Then give him a chance to play before you auto read his meta

I did and my conclusions stayed the same

Pretty sure king didnt say much so idk what you saying here

[FlaviusAetius]

I don’t want to shoot the lurker D1. Personal policy ofc. But I don’t see why some pressure can’t be applied. There’s the modkill threat for non-posters, but let’s turn up the heat and push discussion. ##vote flavius
For my own 2 cents on everyone else: I don’t like chaqa saying he’s fine with sheeping. Im slightly unnerved by will for instantly jumping in and offering to have chaqa sheep him. I don’t see what will and bunnygo see when they insta town me a few messages in (bunny agrees with will calling me town so I assume this is his view). I slightly suspect that one might be mafia trying to pocket (or buddy? Idk the difference…) me. Something like this happened before. Wills town game feels very friendly, I’m inclined to say NIA.

Person I am currently most likely to vote at EOD: chaqa (sets up an easy coast with his willingness to be sheeped,which could end up a liability if he’s actually town too).

Believe you me, if Im lurking something is wrong IRL, I will always make time for mafia, Im kinda addicted LOL

Except when you saw that there were six pages and elected not to interact.

Thats not lurking thats just waiting for the game to pick up steam whats so wrong with that ?

[FlaviusAetius]

Rip jamieh it didnt say that in the setup
Time to die jambo

##vote jamie

From the first page of the setup info:

NOTE: Gambler may send 1 bet to GM before game start. Gambler is allowed to target themself. Each night phase they must place 2 bets.

@JustWill: Are you lying on purpose, or just wrong?

I have proved that my statement was correct. Your response is factually false. Discuss.

I dont see a single reasons after rereading that the Gambler would bet on THEMSELVES

[FlaviusAetius]

Haze with a Z is scummy for pontificating about the difference between gambling and betting instead of looking for scum.

What's scummier? Haze pontificating or your calling attention to it?

Its important a test Jamie failed BTW

[FlaviusAetius]

##Vote Will

Liars should die.

I dont understand this he just made a mistake bro

[FlaviusAetius]

I don't like liars deliberately creating false narratives and I always tend to regard it as deeply scummy and anti-town to try to get town to expose themselves by lying about them.

He wasnt trying to create a narrative he was just discussing the game and made a mistake about the mechs like so what ? You are taking it somewhere where it didnt need to go

[FlaviusAetius]

Rip jamieh it didnt say that in the setup
Time to die jambo

##vote jamie

What?

Yes it does. Go and read it.

Aw dang

##VOTE HAZE

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huh!?!?

[FlaviusAetius]

Yes the first letter of each sentence is r and t

Sure and the first letters of my response spell out:

Fucking
Nugget
Just
Ignorehim

Lol but you can understand why i tried though just in case

I think the fact you responded so quickly and confidently counts for something

Im confused, Jamie said there is an N0(which I JUST discovered means night zero and not a misspelled no), and then you decided to come up with this elaborate scheme to try to gaslight him?? UHH what did that achieve

[FlaviusAetius]

Its not that you didnt know it inwas checking if you knew it from a role pm or the setup

Huh?

Do you have a reason for thinking that the Gambler's Role PM is different from the way it is written in the setup?

What is that reason?

No no Jamie you’re misunderstanding

I don’t think you’re someone who doesn’t understand a setup

I was trying to check if the way you learned the gambler powers was from reading your role pm or by remembering the setup

When he was going to prove to you that he was right, did you think he would copy and paste his ROLE PM!?!? You arent making sense

[FlaviusAetius]

(And I'm not being mean, I'm just not in the mood for someone scumreading me in his first post for a silly reason, and then locking in on me as certain scum for daring to question his read on someone else (when I *know* he is wrong on me)).

Well, this is kind-of Town!Jamie. I was kind of expecting for it to appear. It's not 100% guaranteed though. Duly noted.

NGL I expected Jamie to start getting mad at something and having big reaciton over it, but that didnt happen, Im not sure if thats a GOOD thing or a BAD thing

[FlaviusAetius]

So here's a thing.

Flavius has STILL not posted. He's been online multiple times since the game started. I think I'm in a game with him, even.

##Vote FlaviusAetius

It is pretty strange to have been present but to outright ignore. Even players like EMC would at least drop in a greeting post, from what I remember.

Nah if Im going to play the game Im going to play not just drop a "im a live post" that doesnt make any sense to do

[FlaviusAetius]

Add apparently to the begging of the sentence to make it seem like it was due to someone else rather than admitting i wait for the exact minute the game starts due to my liking for the game of mafia

“Apparently posting first”

This might be the first game Im not thinking you posting first is sus

Why did you decide that THIS post was going to be the first post you replied to?

How telling is posting first to you?

Well the FIRST time he wasnt a big yapper so I was sus about him for not posting first I guess xD. Then the second time he literally wrote "second" as his first post for some reason?? SO I was like that just feels off and didnt make sense, which was the beginning of the case I made on him last game

[FlaviusAetius]

Scum team of bunny, will, and yoyo right off the bat.

Oh, and hello from a burger joint and beer patio in Sunny Hamilton Ontario.

I was an upper body hard gainer. I maxed out at 235lbs on my bench press while I hit both 405lbs in my squats and deadlifts.

And at 55 I have returned to the gym.

what is the point of posting all of your reads right off the bat? Who does that help ?

They were the first three posters I read and it was a shit post. I am not inclined to post my reads at this point as things are still coming together.

I am glad you acknowledged it in some fashion, though.

You arent inclinded to post your reads in the beginning and yet you did?

[FlaviusAetius]

Now that I am taking this a bit more seriously than I was last night, why is your demonstration of self-awareness a "bit?"

It seems to me that as town we're going to be routinely flippant and off-colour and off-base; in otherwords, woefully self-unaware. Wouldn't mafia play with a great deal of self-awareness?

ONLY towards their scum partners everyone else? They can afford to be loosey goosey with, no consequences, no?

Not sure what question you're asking, if you are asking one.

I disagree about your assesment of whether and where scum are loosey goosey

[FlaviusAetius]

In response to Ham: as someone who is routinely skill issuing as town i do actually think i need meta to be townread. It is very rare not for me to be in contention for a D1

I don't understand this phrase. What are you trying to say here?

He means he just hasnt be a good town recently

[FlaviusAetius]

*yawn* good morning. oh! flavius is here! hurrah! I don't like the 6 pages of silence thing, and agree with hb, at least drop a greeting

I think will's rt was a bit wack (and maybe this is just my lack of understand about the game, but the crumb was placed awkwardly), and jamie's response is fine. slight scum points for will in my book. NIA jamie's response. I do think Jamie's defense of haze is rather out of the blue though, which is slightly scummy. Not enough for me to jump to voting them though.

haven't noticed any particular issues yet. ##unvote since flav came back. chaqa seems to still be flying under the radar, surprisingly. ##vote chaqa. let's see if we can squeeze anything out of this...

currently most inclined to keep the vote on chaqa (reasoning hasn't changed). haze is a fine secondary target in my book, I agree that their posts seem to be lacking in substance with only 1 read and they're pretty passive on the solving side (not really pushing questions/grilling anyone for their responses).

I dont get this read at all from Haze, where are you seeing this stuff where he hasnt be an active participant? I remember him talking a bunch in the begining

[FlaviusAetius]

Like why would the gambler give themselves net negative consequences?

EXACTLY