WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@Will:

Why would scum!Jamie not know the setup correctly, and fall for your trap?

Its not that you didnt know it inwas checking if you knew it from a role pm or the setup

[Jamiet99uk]

Lol but you can understand why i tried though just in case

I think the fact you responded so quickly and confidently counts for something

No, I do not understand.

How did you expect me to respond if I was scum?

Well A you checked beforehand and thus i learn nothing or B you get worried as scum and panic in some way

But you passed so big thumbs up

Your theory is that if I was scum I would not understand the scum roles, but as Town I would understand the scum roles.

This makes no logical sense.

[Hamilton Brian]

As much as I like talking about mechanics I think that this is just a normal game, besides the gambling aspect that I think serves mafia if we get too deep into it. I will say that there are some interesting incentives at play that I’ll probably mention later in the game if I make it that far.

I like the way you're baiting us to not vote you out under the guise of "I have some cool things to show you."

I don't.

I was being facetious. I'm not going to toss them out of the game at this very minute because of it; "it" being their stance.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Will:

Why would scum!Jamie not know the setup correctly, and fall for your trap?

Its not that you didnt know it inwas checking if you knew it from a role pm or the setup

Huh?

Do you have a reason for thinking that the Gambler's Role PM is different from the way it is written in the setup?

What is that reason?

[Hamilton Brian]

King has been town fwiw

Also i agree 100% with all of Dips reads

I think Jamie and Haze are both scumbos

Yes, they've been town. Been. We all have been.

When did you decide that your reads vibed with Dip's? Why do you think they are so similar? And should that cause you any concern?

How is Jamie scum based on D1? What is within the range of Jamie's scum play?

Haze; yeah, I am not sure. They kind of rattled me last game.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@Will:

Why would scum!Jamie not know the setup correctly, and fall for your trap?

Its not that you didnt know it inwas checking if you knew it from a role pm or the setup

Huh?

Do you have a reason for thinking that the Gambler's Role PM is different from the way it is written in the setup?

What is that reason?

No no Jamie you’re misunderstanding

I don’t think you’re someone who doesn’t understand a setup

I was trying to check if the way you learned the gambler powers was from reading your role pm or by remembering the setup

[Hamilton Brian]

Alright here is my thought-through read list, in order:

---town---
DipandWar
kotp
BunnyGo ~ Will
HB
---null line---
FA (note: has not contributed)
ghug = damo = yoyoyozo (note: low-quality contributions)
Chaqa (note: wants to sheep)
---"I would be happy to wagon without external pressure" line---
Jamiet
Haze with a Z
---scum---

Interesting; feels early and I am not sure I note an earnestness of believability.

Say you make it to Final 3. Of your 4 townreads, excluding yourself naturally, which do you take to the final with you? Which of the 4 would you dread if they were mafia in Final 3?

[Hamilton Brian]

(And I'm not being mean, I'm just not in the mood for someone scumreading me in his first post for a silly reason, and then locking in on me as certain scum for daring to question his read on someone else (when I *know* he is wrong on me)).

Well, this is kind-of Town!Jamie. I was kind of expecting for it to appear. It's not 100% guaranteed though. Duly noted.

[Jamiet99uk]

Its not that you didnt know it inwas checking if you knew it from a role pm or the setup

Huh?

Do you have a reason for thinking that the Gambler's Role PM is different from the way it is written in the setup?

What is that reason?

No no Jamie you’re misunderstanding

I don’t think you’re someone who doesn’t understand a setup

I was trying to check if the way you learned the gambler powers was from reading your role pm or by remembering the setup

Why do you think those two things would be different??

If I was the Gambler (which I'm not), why do you think my role PM and the setup would differ?

This only makes sense if you have seen the Gambler role PM and I think you might be the Gambler.

[Hamilton Brian]

@HamB

I’m at the point of the bay, watching the swallows hunt and the waves roll over the rocky shore.

Jealous!

[Hamilton Brian]

So here's a thing.

Flavius has STILL not posted. He's been online multiple times since the game started. I think I'm in a game with him, even.

##Vote FlaviusAetius

It is pretty strange to have been present but to outright ignore. Even players like EMC would at least drop in a greeting post, from what I remember.

[Hamilton Brian]

No strong reads but I suspect there is (at least) one scum in top 3 wagons.

Do you mean 1 scum within the top three wagons (Haze, Will, Flavius)? Or 1 scum voting on 1 of those 3 wagons (Bunny, Dip, Will, Haze, yourself, king, or Jamie)?

[Hamilton Brian]

it is true I WAS online but there were only like 6 pages posted and I was like nope nope nope waiting for more to come in

Feel free to add content.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can anyone else validate my thinking here?

Will has outright said that he tried to set a reaction test trap for me, based on knowing that the Gambler's Role PM was different to the Gambler rules described in the Setup Document.

How can anyone know there would be a difference between those two things UNLESS THEY ARE SCUM?

[Hamilton Brian]

What’s your meta?

Add apparently to the begging of the sentence to make it seem like it was due to someone else rather than admitting i wait for the exact minute the game starts due to my liking for the game of mafia

“Apparently posting first”

This might be the first game Im not thinking you posting first is sus

Why did you decide that THIS post was going to be the first post you replied to?

How telling is posting first to you?

[Hamilton Brian]

Scum team of bunny, will, and yoyo right off the bat.

Oh, and hello from a burger joint and beer patio in Sunny Hamilton Ontario.

I was an upper body hard gainer. I maxed out at 235lbs on my bench press while I hit both 405lbs in my squats and deadlifts.

And at 55 I have returned to the gym.

what is the point of posting all of your reads right off the bat? Who does that help ?

They were the first three posters I read and it was a shit post. I am not inclined to post my reads at this point as things are still coming together.

I am glad you acknowledged it in some fashion, though.

[Hamilton Brian]

Reading the setup now; that Gambler role reads like high risk, high reward. But bet wrong on the champion and it's "gone-zo." Fun.

And I am not Gambler.

That's exactly what the actual Gambler would say.

Claiming not to be a specific scum role is not very useful really, is it Brian?

That isnt what he meant tho, he meant that if he was Gambler he would not be using the role because its a high risk high reward type person

Well, I am not sure that was my intent. I just think the role is interesting.

[Hamilton Brian]

Posting first to stabilize my meta while also doing a bit where i am incredibly self aware, thus invalidating any scumread of me due to me wanting to maintain my town meta

Now that I am taking this a bit more seriously than I was last night, why is your demonstration of self-awareness a "bit?"

It seems to me that as town we're going to be routinely flippant and off-colour and off-base; in otherwords, woefully self-unaware. Wouldn't mafia play with a great deal of self-awareness?

ONLY towards their scum partners everyone else? They can afford to be loosey goosey with, no consequences, no?

Not sure what question you're asking, if you are asking one.

[Hamilton Brian]

Strong move

I might even go so far as to ##vote chaqa for wanting to sheep someone.

Usually I need more than just this, yes I agree what Chaqa did was SUS. However, that cant be it people announce sheeping all the time, and it was early in the game so possible Chaqa didnt even mean it. NAI...

What I am more curious about is why YOU are popping in several pages late and making random votes like this; what if Chaqa typed more , that made you think he WASNT scum?

It seems to me that Flavius is doing some thinking at this point, and not taking things immediately at their face.

Somewhat defends chaqa in this post; certainly challenges Dip.

I like this Flavius coming in finally.

[Hamilton Brian]

In response to Ham: as someone who is routinely skill issuing as town i do actually think i need meta to be townread. It is very rare not for me to be in contention for a D1

I don't understand this phrase. What are you trying to say here?