WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[damo666]

In what world do you get more info from an NK of the most townread person over the actual machinations of a day

GUIDANCE!
We should treat whatever worcej says as basically gospel , and since we get multiple kills today we should also do the opposite , that way if they killed worcej cause hew as getting close to the truth, boom we got a mafia.
If they killed worcej cause he was way oof, boom we got a mafia

Either way its perfect.

What if…. Worcej was killed because it very obviously then frames Damo? Worc was livid with what happened at EOD and the last minute vote that resulted in only one kill. It almost seems too neat that Worc would be the one to die. Like bait.

This would fit with boat and Chaqa

[damo666]

GUIDANCE!
We should treat whatever worcej says as basically gospel , and since we get multiple kills today we should also do the opposite , that way if they killed worcej cause hew as getting close to the truth, boom we got a mafia.
If they killed worcej cause he was way oof, boom we got a mafia

Either way its perfect.

What if…. Worcej was killed because it very obviously then frames Damo? Worc was livid with what happened at EOD and the last minute vote that resulted in only one kill. It almost seems too neat that Worc would be the one to die. Like bait.

ANDDD thats the issue! But also the solution we can do it ALL! We can vote for who worcej thought was scum and we can vote for who worcej thought was town . Mafia killed worcej for a reason either because he has the scum on his sights or he doesnt . Shouldn't matter for us because we are killing three people and that can encompass all possibilities !

I think worcej was the NK because he was obvtown and at least one other obvtown is actually scum.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Btw why is nobody else participating in my scheme? Even if you scumread me the scheme is sound from a TPOV.

geez, describing it like that, who would be suspicious

Feeling far more confident now that damo is obv!scum that tried his best to salvage the game.

yea. His recent reads pivot is clearly just him manufacturing a worldview that conveniently lets him scumread the people who are auto-voting him tomorrow and townread the people who might wrongly bail him out. His position didn’t emerge from an organic reassessment of the game, just him “scheming” (literally his word not mine lol) about who his allies are. I suspect he’s giving you and only you a pass because he knows you’re going to die tonight

Dont you think maybe just maybe the perfect strategy in this game perhaps the only way for mafia to win is to become locktown and early ? Then focus all of your attention on those who were initially viewed as scummy?

Rethinking the game is a necessity in a setup like this, I say we go for 2/3 of Damo, Will & I (worcej's reads) then we pick one more person for our third kill

The key point Flav and one that I make often when teaching people mafia and how to detect scum is that it is very hard, if not impossible for good mafia players to be locktown given that playing mafia well requires one to balance two diametrically opposing goals, advancing the scum interest vis a vis achieving the required magic number of miskills and looking town long enough to get there. Simply being lock town as mafia is a surefire way to defeat.

When evaluating players try to find where behavior seemed to advance scum interests in ways that were worth appearing less town. I also feel you're making this suggestion in part to setup another goofy manipulation of the end of round gamestate just like Damo did.

[TheFlyingBoat]

GUIDANCE!
We should treat whatever worcej says as basically gospel , and since we get multiple kills today we should also do the opposite , that way if they killed worcej cause hew as getting close to the truth, boom we got a mafia.
If they killed worcej cause he was way oof, boom we got a mafia

Either way its perfect.

What if…. Worcej was killed because it very obviously then frames Damo? Worc was livid with what happened at EOD and the last minute vote that resulted in only one kill. It almost seems too neat that Worc would be the one to die. Like bait.

ANDDD thats the issue! But also the solution we can do it ALL! We can vote for who worcej thought was scum and we can vote for who worcej thought was town . Mafia killed worcej for a reason either because he has the scum on his sights or he doesnt . Shouldn't matter for us because we are killing three people and that can encompass all possibilities !

If this is your point (a point I made earlier today) then how do more NKs add more/better evidence to the pot in way that was superior to taking 2 DKs yesterday? Your whole argument centered around the idea that NKs benefited us with superior knowledge and therefore we want more of them to happen before we start making double+ DKs and now you're arguing that the NK has could have logic of A and not A with no way of clearly assigning probabilities to them. Make it make sense.

[Jamiet99uk]

GM online
Vote Count coming

[Jamiet99uk]

Captain's log, Stardate 46379.2. We have lost contact with the away team, following a failed attempt to beam them back from the planet's surface. I have ordered Lieutenant Commander Data to prepare a shuttlecraft to attempt to make landfall.

Vote Count 2.0

Damo (2) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden
FlaviusAetius (2) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
JustaGuyNamedWill (1) - TheFlyingBoat
Chaqa (1) - FlaviusAetius

Currently Damo and Flavius will be ejected.

Much time is left.

[damo666]

##vote Chaqa

Only Flav and I dying probably is game over with a scum victory.

[Chaqa]

We’re doing a family outing during the day but I’ll be on later.

For now:
##Vote damo

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 2.1

Damo (3) - TheFlyingBoat, President Eden, Chaqa
FlaviusAetius (2) - President Eden, TheFlyingBoat
Chaqa (2) - FlaviusAetius, Damo666
TheFlyingBoat (1) - Damo666
JustaGuyNamedWill (1) - TheFlyingBoat

At present DAMO will be nullified.

Time remains in relative abundance.

[President Eden]

who do we want in F3?

[President Eden]

i’m like… simultaneously cooling on flav being mafia and getting closer to damo/will team.

and then also feeling like if we get to F3 with one of me/glitterbomb + chaqa + tfb that it’s basically auto-win.

[President Eden]

which if you’re still counting at home is yet another reason why single killing today is terrible lol.

giving the mafia two nightkills instead of one just means that any hypothetical F3 has neither me nor GB in it

[damo666]

who do we want in F3?

TFB Chaqa me

[damo666]

which if you’re still counting at home is yet another reason why single killing today is terrible lol.

giving the mafia two nightkills instead of one just means that any hypothetical F3 has neither me nor GB in it

Sounds like you're warming to the possibility TFB is scum

[damo666]

who do we want in F3?

TFB Chaqa me

Me will and one of TFB/Chaqa is prob OK too

[damo666]

i’m like… simultaneously cooling on flav being mafia and getting closer to damo/will team.

and then also feeling like if we get to F3 with one of me/glitterbomb + chaqa + tfb that it’s basically auto-win.

wrong

[President Eden]

who do we want in F3?

TFB Chaqa me

Me will and one of TFB/Chaqa is prob OK too

…how do you figure that that F3 makes any sense lol

the whole premise is that you just need one obvtown in F3 to win. who is your obvtown in those two scenarios?

[Chaqa]

who do we want in F3?

TFB Chaqa me

Please no lol

I’m really bad in F3 as town

[Chaqa]

TFB Chaqa me

Me will and one of TFB/Chaqa is prob OK too

…how do you figure that that F3 makes any sense lol

the whole premise is that you just need one obvtown in F3 to win. who is your obvtown in those two scenarios?

You know he’s gonna say “myself” right ?

[President Eden]

Me will and one of TFB/Chaqa is prob OK too

…how do you figure that that F3 makes any sense lol

the whole premise is that you just need one obvtown in F3 to win. who is your obvtown in those two scenarios?

You know he’s gonna say “myself” right ?

…well yes, but I just wanted to believe in the world where I would get a helpful answer instead