WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[damo666]

I have this nagging feeling I’m missing some obvious exploit that punishes us here, but I think any risk is mitigated by making sure damo is one of the two votes, so I guess I don’t mind. I think I would prefer it if we collectively came to a good answer to “Who is most likely scum if damo is town?” and just voted them alongside damo though instead of giving scum a list of our suspects to manipulate as we’re probably doing right now by playing his game.

If Damo is town, I don't feel confident in naming a known scum pair based off D1 as it stands because Will and Flav are still question marks to me.

I scum Flav well above Will though - Flav's push for the one-kill D1 result strongly tipped the scales for me.

See my new proposal

[worcej]

I have this nagging feeling I’m missing some obvious exploit that punishes us here, but I think any risk is mitigated by making sure damo is one of the two votes, so I guess I don’t mind. I think I would prefer it if we collectively came to a good answer to “Who is most likely scum if damo is town?” and just voted them alongside damo though instead of giving scum a list of our suspects to manipulate as we’re probably doing right now by playing his game.

How about we all vote who we trust most as Town and whoever that is nominates the two at start of D2 with nobody voting before that declaration under pain of hammerdeath. If the top town is NKd #2 nominates.

That's reasonable. And I'm hardly likely to win that vote lol.

Under this regime (which I think less scum manipulable) I nominate Eden.

There you go. Voting for my own death in a game where self-voting is not allowed. How unselfish is that?

You know, I'd have probably had the ability to listen to you with reason if you had at least just come back with "Guys, I am sorry for that" after 4+ of us expressed dislike/frustration/anger at what you did, but considering you have yet to even acknowledge your mistake it just makes it so much harder to consider you as town.

[President Eden]

I have this nagging feeling I’m missing some obvious exploit that punishes us here, but I think any risk is mitigated by making sure damo is one of the two votes, so I guess I don’t mind. I think I would prefer it if we collectively came to a good answer to “Who is most likely scum if damo is town?” and just voted them alongside damo though instead of giving scum a list of our suspects to manipulate as we’re probably doing right now by playing his game.

If Damo is town, I don’t feel confident in naming a known scum pair based off D1 as it stands because Will and Flav are still question marks to me.

I scum Flav well above Will though - Flav’s push for the one-kill D1 result strongly tipped the scales for me.

Right, I’m not asking for a pair here. My thinking is that hedging the next vote is the play. If damo is scum, we’re “fine” if we miskill alongside killing him (not optimal obviously but we live to fight another day). If damo is town, we lose if we miskill alongside killing him. So the best hedge is to find the single most likely mafia in the world where damo’s town.

Idk who that is yet. My gut still says Flav but I’m not sure.

[worcej]

I can only see this play from scum!damo and, to be fair, I salute your move to take the killing power away from us in a desperate situation that you may have been in.

So far during this phase you're just trying to damage control.

[damo666]

I have this nagging feeling I’m missing some obvious exploit that punishes us here, but I think any risk is mitigated by making sure damo is one of the two votes, so I guess I don’t mind. I think I would prefer it if we collectively came to a good answer to “Who is most likely scum if damo is town?” and just voted them alongside damo though instead of giving scum a list of our suspects to manipulate as we’re probably doing right now by playing his game.

If Damo is town, I don’t feel confident in naming a known scum pair based off D1 as it stands because Will and Flav are still question marks to me.

I scum Flav well above Will though - Flav’s push for the one-kill D1 result strongly tipped the scales for me.

Right, I’m not asking for a pair here. My thinking is that hedging the next vote is the play. If damo is scum, we’re “fine” if we miskill alongside killing him (not optimal obviously but we live to fight another day). If damo is town, we lose if we miskill alongside killing him. So the best hedge is to find the single most likely mafia in the world where damo’s town.

Idk who that is yet. My gut still says Flav but I’m not sure.

So you think Flav has me completely pocketed?

[TheFlyingBoat]

Rather than doing the weird ass top 2 vote thing, I'll give a full read list at EoN.

See my new proposal

Honestly I feel like I am being had with this suggestion, but I am not sure how.

[damo666]

I'm beginning to change my mind on TFB.

I think the two are in {Chaqa, Mrs B, TFB}.

[President Eden]

Final Vote Count Day One

Lfischl (7) - Worcej, President Eden, FlaviusAetius, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill, Lfischl, Damo666
FlaviusAetius (6) - Worcej, The FlyingBoat, PresidentEden, GlitterBomb, Lfischl, JustaGuyNamedWill
JustaGuyNamedWill (6) - Worcej, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666
Damo666 (5) - TheFlyingBoat, Worcej, President Eden, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill
PresidentEden (3) - Worcej, Chaqa, GlitterBomb
Worcej (3) - FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Damo
GlitterBomb (2) - Chaqa, Damo
Chaqa (1) - Damo

If this seems wrong, message me on WebDip in the next 4 mins.

Reverse engineering damo’s last 2 votes gives us this.

Lfischl (6) - Worcej, President Eden, FlaviusAetius, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill, Lfischl
FlaviusAetius (6) - Worcej, The FlyingBoat, PresidentEden, GlitterBomb, Lfischl, JustaGuyNamedWill
JustaGuyNamedWill (5) - Worcej, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, President Eden, TheFlyingBoat
Damo666 (5) - TheFlyingBoat, Worcej, President Eden, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill
PresidentEden (3) - Worcej, Chaqa, GlitterBomb
Worcej (3) - FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Damo
GlitterBomb (2) - Chaqa, Damo
Chaqa (1) - Damo

I’m missing helpful conclusions here lol. I see three reasons why scum!damo might do this and they all point to different partners.

(1) Partner is Flavius, team is cooked, desperation play to save a teammate and deprive us of a kill (never mind the kill being on his partner).
(2) Partner is Will, team is not imminently cooked but would be under immense pressure with us flipping lfischl and Flav. damo sacrifices himself to possibly slow us down (depending on how risk-averse we decide to play D2) and draw attention away from Will (and possibly drag Flav down with him; see (1)).
(3) Partner is sitting pretty and damo felt it was worth it to trade his life for a miskill. This one doesn’t seem very likely to me because I think mafia would prefer to take the two miskills and then count on whoever is sitting pretty to save damo D2 for the win.

I think it’s just got to be damo/Flav or damo/Will based off that. That’s kind of convenient because Flav and Will are also the best hedge votes if damo is somehow town here, IMO.

[President Eden]

If Damo is town, I don’t feel confident in naming a known scum pair based off D1 as it stands because Will and Flav are still question marks to me.

I scum Flav well above Will though - Flav’s push for the one-kill D1 result strongly tipped the scales for me.

Right, I’m not asking for a pair here. My thinking is that hedging the next vote is the play. If damo is scum, we’re “fine” if we miskill alongside killing him (not optimal obviously but we live to fight another day). If damo is town, we lose if we miskill alongside killing him. So the best hedge is to find the single most likely mafia in the world where damo’s town.

Idk who that is yet. My gut still says Flav but I’m not sure.

So you think Flav has me completely pocketed?

I think you’re mafia

[damo666]

Rather than doing the weird ass top 2 vote thing, I'll give a full read list at EoN.

See my new proposal

Honestly I feel like I am being had with this suggestion, but I am not sure how.

I don't see how. Mafia can't do much about the night vote for townytown.

Townytown nominates ScumScum - game over Town wins scum can f=do nothing about it

Townytown nominates a Scum and a Town - I don't see what scum can do here

Townytown nominates TownTown - Town lose.

Don't like that last one considering my alignment and likelihood of being nominated.

I just hope TownyTown wakes up and does not nominate me.

Anyway as I said before my TownyTown vote goes to Eden.

[GlitterBomb]

Right, I’m not asking for a pair here. My thinking is that hedging the next vote is the play. If damo is scum, we’re “fine” if we miskill alongside killing him (not optimal obviously but we live to fight another day). If damo is town, we lose if we miskill alongside killing him. So the best hedge is to find the single most likely mafia in the world where damo’s town.

Idk who that is yet. My gut still says Flav but I’m not sure.

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So you think Flav has me completely pocketed?

I think you’re mafia

So do I!

And what’s with saying I’m scum and didn’t vote for one of the top four when I very clearly did? I’m sticking with Flav and adding Damo to my top two suspects

[damo666]

Final Vote Count Day One

Lfischl (7) - Worcej, President Eden, FlaviusAetius, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill, Lfischl, Damo666
FlaviusAetius (6) - Worcej, The FlyingBoat, PresidentEden, GlitterBomb, Lfischl, JustaGuyNamedWill
JustaGuyNamedWill (6) - Worcej, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, President Eden, TheFlyingBoat, Damo666
Damo666 (5) - TheFlyingBoat, Worcej, President Eden, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill
PresidentEden (3) - Worcej, Chaqa, GlitterBomb
Worcej (3) - FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Damo
GlitterBomb (2) - Chaqa, Damo
Chaqa (1) - Damo

If this seems wrong, message me on WebDip in the next 4 mins.

Reverse engineering damo’s last 2 votes gives us this.

Lfischl (6) - Worcej, President Eden, FlaviusAetius, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill, Lfischl
FlaviusAetius (6) - Worcej, The FlyingBoat, PresidentEden, GlitterBomb, Lfischl, JustaGuyNamedWill
JustaGuyNamedWill (5) - Worcej, Chaqa, FlaviusAetius, President Eden, TheFlyingBoat
Damo666 (5) - TheFlyingBoat, Worcej, President Eden, Chaqa, JustaGuyNamedWill
PresidentEden (3) - Worcej, Chaqa, GlitterBomb
Worcej (3) - FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill, Damo
GlitterBomb (2) - Chaqa, Damo
Chaqa (1) - Damo

I’m missing helpful conclusions here lol. I see three reasons why scum!damo might do this and they all point to different partners.

(1) Partner is Flavius, team is cooked, desperation play to save a teammate and deprive us of a kill (never mind the kill being on his partner).
(2) Partner is Will, team is not imminently cooked but would be under immense pressure with us flipping lfischl and Flav. damo sacrifices himself to possibly slow us down (depending on how risk-averse we decide to play D2) and draw attention away from Will (and possibly drag Flav down with him; see (1)).
(3) Partner is sitting pretty and damo felt it was worth it to trade his life for a miskill. This one doesn’t seem very likely to me because I think mafia would prefer to take the two miskills and then count on whoever is sitting pretty to save damo D2 for the win.

I think it’s just got to be damo/Flav or damo/Will based off that. That’s kind of convenient because Flav and Will are also the best hedge votes if damo is somehow town here, IMO.

Oh dear. I wish I hadn't TownyTowned you now. I should have voted Flav. Oh well, we all make mistakes.

[damo666]

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So you think Flav has me completely pocketed?

I think you’re mafia

So do I!

And what’s with saying I’m scum and didn’t vote for one of the top four when I very clearly did? I’m sticking with Flav and adding Damo to my top two suspects

Apologies I missed your vote on Flav.

[damo666]

Anyway.

Gn.

[GlitterBomb]

I think you’re mafia

So do I!

And what’s with saying I’m scum and didn’t vote for one of the top four when I very clearly did? I’m sticking with Flav and adding Damo to my top two suspects

Apologies I missed your vote on Flav.

I’ll contemplate accepting your apology.

[FlaviusAetius]

Well I just fell asleep I figured I probably died, where is EoD?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Well I just fell asleep I figured I probably died, where is EoD?

Stop posting, you died

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Lol gotteem

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But on a more serious note, i need to fully analyze what happened there and its not looking good.

[Chaqa]

I have proposed a solution. You should all nominate a scum pair. We then rank top 3 and top 2 survivors are the policy vote tomorrow.

Damo: Glitterbomb Chaqa

This is fucking stupid.

Now we have to get it 100% right tomorrow rather than getting it 33% or 50% right today.