WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[FlaviusAetius]

I think you implying I am coasting is what angered me to be a grump frump this morning because I have actually been the most engaged person here so far.

The coasting part of my argument doesnt even apply anymore because there arent max three votes

[worcej]

Ugh I cannot understand how you cannot address simple questions.

[FlaviusAetius]

But the coasting part of my arugment was only PART of the reason why I think voting early so many times is a BAD idea

[FlaviusAetius]

Ugh I cannot understand how you cannot address simple questions.

??? What question have I not answered, I have responded to nearly everything

[worcej]

But the coasting part of my arugment was only PART of the reason why I think voting early so many times is a BAD idea

BAD DOES NOT EQUAL SCUMMY

WHAT IS THE EQUATION THAT GETS US THAT EARLY VOTES ARE SCUMMY FLAV!?!

WHO ELSE IS SCUMMY FLAV!?!

[worcej]

Ok well I guess we are both wrong. Early voting still means you cant undo your vote and it parks it, making you have to advocate for that person. HOWEVER, its true you dont just have three votes TOTAL

I am not wrong - I knew my votes stuck after placing them.

I don’t feel bad about voting anyone here as every vote changes the “puzzle” for scum and forces action. Sitting around and just saying you think people are scummy and not exercising your power plays into the scum’s game here.

Also - YOU HAVE YET TO EXPLAIN WHY ME VOTING EARLY IS SCUMMY!!!!

IM not saying its SCUMMY, Im saying voting so many TIMES IS!

WHY?

[FlaviusAetius]

But the coasting part of my arugment was only PART of the reason why I think voting early so many times is a BAD idea

BAD DOES NOT EQUAL SCUMMY

WHAT IS THE EQUATION THAT GETS US THAT EARLY VOTES ARE SCUMMY FLAV!?!

WHO ELSE IS SCUMMY FLAV!?!

First off I cant KNOW who else is scummy without being given a chance to catch up!

Second off I didnt say BAD equals scummy I literally quoted you the post that is the SUMMARY of the reasoning behind why I thought you were scummy, which had OTHER stuff besides your early voting

Third off early voting is FINE, it just gets to a point where its too many votes. YES I AGREE its a good way to get the pressure on , even in this setup where you cant change your vote. HOWEVER, doing that on three people with little to no information is a laughing stock!

[FlaviusAetius]

AND as I said it now BACKS you into a corner you cant do nothing but view these people as scummy, you are locked in, dont you think just maybe for a moment that it should be based off of something other than vibes the initial vote?

[worcej]

Ugh I cannot understand how you cannot address simple questions.

??? What question have I not answered, I have responded to nearly everything

The entire case on me from you is I voted multiple times early and that’s scummy.

How or why is it scummy?
What do you think my strategy here would be as scum voting early?

Fucking do something other than laser me - you’re not going to get the time to “go live” with others and if you’re town and I am wrong, you’re doing nothing by only focusing on me.

[worcej]

But the coasting part of my arugment was only PART of the reason why I think voting early so many times is a BAD idea

BAD DOES NOT EQUAL SCUMMY

WHAT IS THE EQUATION THAT GETS US THAT EARLY VOTES ARE SCUMMY FLAV!?!

WHO ELSE IS SCUMMY FLAV!?!

First off I cant KNOW who else is scummy without being given a chance to catch up!

Second off I didnt say BAD equals scummy I literally quoted you the post that is the SUMMARY of the reasoning behind why I thought you were scummy, which had OTHER stuff besides your early voting

Third off early voting is FINE, it just gets to a point where its too many votes. YES I AGREE its a good way to get the pressure on , even in this setup where you cant change your vote. HOWEVER, doing that on three people with little to no information is a laughing stock!

Your explanations have not said why or how. You are missing that information and it’s getting fucking annoying to me how often I am hammering you on this and you avoid it still.

[worcej]

AND as I said it now BACKS you into a corner you cant do nothing but view these people as scummy, you are locked in, dont you think just maybe for a moment that it should be based off of something other than vibes the initial vote?

How am I locked in to thinking people are scummy the entire time?

I think Eden is most likely town now, but there is still a chance he is scum here so I don’t feel bad about the vote.

[worcej]

Calling the GT comments - I am being lambasted for jumping down your throat and dominating the thread but fuck me for trying to get something worthwhile from you in case you’re town.

[FlaviusAetius]

This feels exactly like Flavius’s last game here lol. I remember giving him a pass for his heavyhanded style thinking no scum would be this brazen… and then it turned out he was consciously leaning into that exact assumption as mafia and hiding in plain sight.

Thing is, he’s probably right that a low poster is mafia. I just suspect he’s the other one, and that the yapper/lurker vote plan is conveniently engineered to avoid him (since he’s referring to the trio of me/worc/Boat as the yappers here and excluding himself).

I’m conceding that the && thing was silly, but if you still care about it as a tool to read me, you can consider my && firmly planted on Flav atm

I dont understand why people think I am being brazen Im just not. Im just responding to what people are saying in the game. Whats so wrong with that I've been doing it for as long as I can remember in mafia. The ONLY thing I changed last game was that I didnt talk to Jamie so much because I didnt want to be seen as buddying him

THATS IT.

[FlaviusAetius]

BAD DOES NOT EQUAL SCUMMY

WHAT IS THE EQUATION THAT GETS US THAT EARLY VOTES ARE SCUMMY FLAV!?!

WHO ELSE IS SCUMMY FLAV!?!

First off I cant KNOW who else is scummy without being given a chance to catch up!

Second off I didnt say BAD equals scummy I literally quoted you the post that is the SUMMARY of the reasoning behind why I thought you were scummy, which had OTHER stuff besides your early voting

Third off early voting is FINE, it just gets to a point where its too many votes. YES I AGREE its a good way to get the pressure on , even in this setup where you cant change your vote. HOWEVER, doing that on three people with little to no information is a laughing stock!

Your explanations have not said why or how. You are missing that information and it’s getting fucking annoying to me how often I am hammering you on this and you avoid it still.

Well now I just dont understand what you are ASKING out of me. Im not trying to be annoying to you I am trying to answer this question which I felt I have done like FIVE TIMES now. What am I missing!?!?!

[FlaviusAetius]

AND as I said it now BACKS you into a corner you cant do nothing but view these people as scummy, you are locked in, dont you think just maybe for a moment that it should be based off of something other than vibes the initial vote?

How am I locked in to thinking people are scummy the entire time?

I think Eden is most likely town now, but there is still a chance he is scum here so I don’t feel bad about the vote.

You VOTED for someone, thats a vote , how can you say that you arent locked into them? Even if you do what you did with Eden you still have this idea that he MIGHT be scummy. That isnt right , I think a worcej in a world without voting for Eden so EARLY would think Eden was just a simple town, you tainted yourself

[worcej]

First off I cant KNOW who else is scummy without being given a chance to catch up!

Second off I didnt say BAD equals scummy I literally quoted you the post that is the SUMMARY of the reasoning behind why I thought you were scummy, which had OTHER stuff besides your early voting

Third off early voting is FINE, it just gets to a point where its too many votes. YES I AGREE its a good way to get the pressure on , even in this setup where you cant change your vote. HOWEVER, doing that on three people with little to no information is a laughing stock!

Your explanations have not said why or how. You are missing that information and it’s getting fucking annoying to me how often I am hammering you on this and you avoid it still.

Well now I just dont understand what you are ASKING out of me. Im not trying to be annoying to you I am trying to answer this question which I felt I have done like FIVE TIMES now. What am I missing!?!?!

You’re missing the why is multiple early votes scummy…

You have said it’s bad…

But not said why it’s scummy…

[FlaviusAetius]

Boooooo

I think I know why you did as well bc if this post you quoted is the reason you voted me, im assuming you think I would be excited to start the game as scum and thus would be the first to post

Am I right or am I right lol

I just dont understand the post, usually in the start of the game people are trying to break the ice and get people talking , you definetly didnt do that with your first post, ontop of that you also said " Second " not FIRST. ummm? You were first so why type second

I DID do that you just didn’t read like a single post down what are you talking about????

You are clearly just looking for reasons to scum somebody. I’d be very surprised if two or three posts down you didn’t completely revert to scumming idk damo or worcej

ALL I was trying to get across was that it was weird :shrugs:

[FlaviusAetius]

You seem awfully concerned with mechs for someone who scumread me for mechs

You also are worried about wasting MKs while throwing two votes on people off 2 pages

" awfully concerned about mechs"
???
That would mean worcej talked about mechs for hours not...like three posts

Flavius is gonna get on my nerves. I don’t want to explain my word choice every sentence

?? word choice is everything , we dont have a lot to go off of, as worcej mentioned VCA isnt really going to be a thing , so everything ANYONE says or does HAS to be looked at

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 1.4

FlaviusAetius (4) - Worcej, The FlyingBoat, PresidentEden, GlitterBomb
PresidentEden (3) - Worcej, Chaqa, GlitterBomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (2) - Worcej, Chaqa
Worcej (2) - FlaviusAetius, JustaGuyNamedWill
Damo666 (2) - TheFlyingBoat, Worcej
GlitterBomb (1) - Chaqa

Currently FLAVIUS and EDEN are set to be done away with.

[FlaviusAetius]

I think the && voting is fine

Their critique is that unless someone is actually going to search up the && votes, it’s pointless. And I think they’re right about that, and I know no one is going to do all that, so I think they’re correct that it’s silly

Unless you’re volunteering lol

It wouldn't be any different than tracking hyposcans or manual vote counts like we used to do. I actually find it a bit odd that people are dismissing the idea. It seems useful to me.

You cant search in the forum so you'd have to go page by page, so not exactly easy , ontop of that I scumread anyone who does a lot of talking without actually talking