WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

Can you explain? Do you just not like my logic

The vibes are off. Straight skibbidi

Yikes this bit is going to get on my nerves

You have only yourself to blame.

You gave the impression that early votes are bad and then provided an explanation to vote me based on a WIFOM opinion that is contrary to the consensus of how to play this game. The same consensus that you were admonishing me for not playing to yesterday.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But hey, you still scum him right? Just vote him now too. 2 people need to die Will!

Scum him but not as much as you rn

Considering nothing really changed between your read list and your reread, I think you’re just caught justifying a shit move here.

At least I admittedly said my vote on you was bad, but the other 2 are solidly entrenched in reasons.

I look forward to the GT for this game - I think the other 6 town players should be admonished for being so cautious and scared to do something here.

If you mean in game, sure, but again, for the 10th time, it was not due to any new content that I decided to vote you

AWhy should they be admonished if you think scum will pounce on a mistake?

[Chaqa]

I will also be casting votes for anyone who votes for Eden or worcej.

I’ve had a realization. This voting mechanic is the ultimate way to defend townreads. There is actual pressure.

I am thriving

[worcej]

Scum him but not as much as you rn

Considering nothing really changed between your read list and your reread, I think you’re just caught justifying a shit move here.

At least I admittedly said my vote on you was bad, but the other 2 are solidly entrenched in reasons.

I look forward to the GT for this game - I think the other 6 town players should be admonished for being so cautious and scared to do something here.

If you mean in game, sure, but again, for the 10th time, it was not due to any new content that I decided to vote you

AWhy should they be admonished if you think scum will pounce on a mistake?

Will said “they” instead of “us”

Got’em.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Considering nothing really changed between your read list and your reread, I think you’re just caught justifying a shit move here.

At least I admittedly said my vote on you was bad, but the other 2 are solidly entrenched in reasons.

I look forward to the GT for this game - I think the other 6 town players should be admonished for being so cautious and scared to do something here.

If you mean in game, sure, but again, for the 10th time, it was not due to any new content that I decided to vote you

AWhy should they be admonished if you think scum will pounce on a mistake?

Will said “they” instead of “us”

Got’em.

They as in the people who are cautious with their vote

Key words: other town players

[worcej]

I will also be casting votes for anyone who votes for Eden or worcej.

I’ve had a realization. This voting mechanic is the ultimate way to defend townreads. There is actual pressure.

I am thriving

100% agree with this.

Also anyone who votes to self-preserve themselves should be instantly dog-piled.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

What do you mean other 6 town players? Assuming you know yourself to be town, that would be other 7 players?

I swear this player count thing is weird

[worcej]

If you mean in game, sure, but again, for the 10th time, it was not due to any new content that I decided to vote you

AWhy should they be admonished if you think scum will pounce on a mistake?

Will said “they” instead of “us”

Got’em.

They as in the people who are cautious with their vote

Key words: other town players

Nah, you meant "they" as town because you're scum.

Get better brosef.

[worcej]

What do you mean other 6 town players? Assuming you know yourself to be town, that would be other 7 players?

I swear this player count thing is weird

I am town dingly-dork.

9 players, 2 scum, 6 other people are my teammates.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Will said “they” instead of “us”

Got’em.

They as in the people who are cautious with their vote

Key words: other town players

Nah, you meant "they" as town because you're scum.

Get better brosef.

Worcejs response: no, git gud

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

What do you mean other 6 town players? Assuming you know yourself to be town, that would be other 7 players?

I swear this player count thing is weird

I am town dingly-dork.

9 players, 2 scum, 6 other people are my teammates.

I thought there were 10 players

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok ok wait hold up if there ARE 9 then how did i get 9 differnt people on my reads list hold up

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok ok wait hold up if there ARE 9 then how did i get 9 differnt people on my reads list hold up

Not including myself

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ohhhh ok i messed up with the addition of chaqa nvm lol disregard

[worcej]

They as in the people who are cautious with their vote

Key words: other town players

Nah, you meant "they" as town because you're scum.

Get better brosef.

Worcejs response: no, git gud

You die is cast and I am trolling you because I am having fun doing it.

But I do think you're vote on me was shit and the cart (vote) was before the horse (good explanation) in your efforts to do so.

You didn't explain a change in reads of why I was more scummy than Flavius in any way and jumped to me when you made such an effort to provide an organized list by scummyness.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Top = most town, Bottom = least town

Worc

People often misconstrue behavior they don't like as scummy. None of the things people don't like seem scummy to me and I think his reaction to Eden gave very townie vibes. Serious engagement with mechs, was wrong about plenty, adjusted to being wrong and has been genuine in applying pressure with original reads.

Glitter

I am team Mrs. Bomb all the way. Is it possible I am the biggest mark in the history of marks of the classic newbie razzle dazzle? Possible, but idk I just feel like the vibes are right here. This is my least confident read but until given reason to think otherwise I feel positive vibes.

Eden

I think Eden tried to grapple with the crux of the game early in a way that he thought would be good for the town. He tried to get his system going and committed to it, held strong against attack for a while before finally backing down after being explained to why it was anti-town in this highly particular context. Genuine and novel engagement with the game makes me think Eden is town. He is a good player and has done things he could do as either alignment, but I have caught him before and I think for now he isn't throwing up anything highly sus to me. His reticence to OMGUS worcej wins him a lot of points in my book.

-------- My feel good bar

Will

Don't know Will and he had made some posts early which seemed town aligned, but his handling of Flav v Worc rubs me the wrong way. Still slightly lean town, but not as confident as I was early yesterday.

Lfischl

No clue if lfischl has changed since I've been gone. While he is more active than I am used to, he is still glaringly inactive and not contributing a whole ton. He is the definition of true random

Chaqa

I expect more from Chaqa. I am slightly worried about his Eden vote. I do think it was probably just a mistake and lolzy play because Chaqa and Eden things but like at the same time it is so easy for Chaqa to do so and hope to take out Eden early while throwing his hands up and saying awwww shucks guys, big oooopsie daisies here!

I would be much more favorable and be willing to chalk it up to town!Chaqa being goofy if he were contributing useful thoughts like I know he can.

---------------- Feel bad line

Damo

Damo is one of the best players in the game before. I've played with him heavily in both town and mafia games before on his side and he is a delight. Where the hell is that damo now? He throws out one question which reeks of being a setup for either a throwaway double wagon on two of the lowest activity townspeople he can find at the deadline or a runup of a wagon on a skilled town player (which I fear might be Eden) in order to get a huge miskill on a huge town asset.

I don't think damo+lfischl is a team unless the opening post was a direct warning/coaching for lfischl but I highly doubt damo would take that risk.

Based on my priors, odds are lfischl just doesn't see it and goes inactive and damo would have to justify running up inactive wagons other than lfischl, unless damo just didn't give a shit and was open to bussing him, figuring he'd have to hard carry anyways. And while that is theoretically possible, damo doesn't seem like the kind of guy to go that hard that fast.

Flavius

Off the bat seems to be the scummiest person around right now. If manufactured engagement was a person it would be Flavius. I posted this earlier on the reread, but I encourage y'all to go back and look yourselves. So much of his posting was just regurgitating that which has already been said followed by a bad push.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Nah, you meant "they" as town because you're scum.

Get better brosef.

Worcejs response: no, git gud

You die is cast and I am trolling you because I am having fun doing it.

But I do think you're vote on me was shit and the cart (vote) was before the horse (good explanation) in your efforts to do so.

You didn't explain a change in reads of why I was more scummy than Flavius in any way and jumped to me when you made such an effort to provide an organized list by scummyness.

In full honesty worcej i dont really think my reasoning was bad. Call me dumb but i dont care

Also I dont understand why you put so much weight into a reads list i made early on. Early reads lists typically change a lot later in the game. And sure enough after rereading it did change. It should not be taken as gospel

[TheFlyingBoat]

I will also be casting votes for anyone who votes for Eden or worcej.

I’ve had a realization. This voting mechanic is the ultimate way to defend townreads. There is actual pressure.

I am thriving

Gold star! This has been the grand point Worc and I were making about the value of the hard vote

[TheFlyingBoat]

Reading Chaqa's posts over the past 20 mins or so after I started writing my abridged wall makes me feel better than before. Jump him over Will probs for now

[worcej]

Top = most town, Bottom = least town

Worc

People often misconstrue behavior they don't like as scummy. None of the things people don't like seem scummy to me and I think his reaction to Eden gave very townie vibes. Serious engagement with mechs, was wrong about plenty, adjusted to being wrong and has been genuine in applying pressure with original reads.

Glitter

I am team Mrs. Bomb all the way. Is it possible I am the biggest mark in the history of marks of the classic newbie razzle dazzle? Possible, but idk I just feel like the vibes are right here. This is my least confident read but until given reason to think otherwise I feel positive vibes.

Eden

I think Eden tried to grapple with the crux of the game early in a way that he thought would be good for the town. He tried to get his system going and committed to it, held strong against attack for a while before finally backing down after being explained to why it was anti-town in this highly particular context. Genuine and novel engagement with the game makes me think Eden is town. He is a good player and has done things he could do as either alignment, but I have caught him before and I think for now he isn't throwing up anything highly sus to me. His reticence to OMGUS worcej wins him a lot of points in my book.

-------- My feel good bar

Will

Don't know Will and he had made some posts early which seemed town aligned, but his handling of Flav v Worc rubs me the wrong way. Still slightly lean town, but not as confident as I was early yesterday.

Lfischl

No clue if lfischl has changed since I've been gone. While he is more active than I am used to, he is still glaringly inactive and not contributing a whole ton. He is the definition of true random

Chaqa

I expect more from Chaqa. I am slightly worried about his Eden vote. I do think it was probably just a mistake and lolzy play because Chaqa and Eden things but like at the same time it is so easy for Chaqa to do so and hope to take out Eden early while throwing his hands up and saying awwww shucks guys, big oooopsie daisies here!

I would be much more favorable and be willing to chalk it up to town!Chaqa being goofy if he were contributing useful thoughts like I know he can.

---------------- Feel bad line

Damo

Damo is one of the best players in the game before. I've played with him heavily in both town and mafia games before on his side and he is a delight. Where the hell is that damo now? He throws out one question which reeks of being a setup for either a throwaway double wagon on two of the lowest activity townspeople he can find at the deadline or a runup of a wagon on a skilled town player (which I fear might be Eden) in order to get a huge miskill on a huge town asset.

I don't think damo+lfischl is a team unless the opening post was a direct warning/coaching for lfischl but I highly doubt damo would take that risk.

Based on my priors, odds are lfischl just doesn't see it and goes inactive and damo would have to justify running up inactive wagons other than lfischl, unless damo just didn't give a shit and was open to bussing him, figuring he'd have to hard carry anyways. And while that is theoretically possible, damo doesn't seem like the kind of guy to go that hard that fast.

Flavius

Off the bat seems to be the scummiest person around right now. If manufactured engagement was a person it would be Flavius. I posted this earlier on the reread, but I encourage y'all to go back and look yourselves. So much of his posting was just regurgitating that which has already been said followed by a bad push.

I mostly agree here - damo is rubbing me very poorly currently with the "I'm not going to vote until near end of phase" and it's very contrary to his normal style (voting liberally to get "engagement")

Also 100% agree on flavius - care to vote him now?