WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

Like worcejs reasoning for the stuff he does and says just makes no sense from a town’s perspective. I may be wrong about this but honestly I’m just confused by how hes been navigating the game thusfar

This is horseshit the same bad voting behavior you admonished me for.

You never asked me questions and just fired this off because it puts you in a better position to not die.

I really didnt think I was in any position to die?? And mine is absolutely different because you went off 2 pages and like idk an hour and I went off a whole days worth of content before placing a vote.

What I find hilarious is if I didn’t vote you, I highly doubt you would draw this conclusion at this point.

I have thoroughly explained every vote and reasoning why I am doing what I am doing yet you think I am scum for trying to do this?

Do you not remember playing scum with me and being the calculating motherfucker in the background the entire time and being risk adverse?

Your logical conclusion is completely in the face of my meta and behavior as scum that helped us get a win like 1-3 games ago (I don’t keep explicit track, sue me).

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Do you not think your opening was strange and out of character for you?

[worcej]

Do you not think your opening was strange and out of character for you?

Fuck no - I come in being a dipshit every D1 lol

[worcej]

And I am incredibly loose when I am a VT - IDGAF about my life so I play accordingly and get townread for it normally.

Again, your logic in thinking I am scum is shit and you just OMGUS’ed me to help yourself now.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

This is horseshit the same bad voting behavior you admonished me for.

You never asked me questions and just fired this off because it puts you in a better position to not die.

I really didnt think I was in any position to die?? And mine is absolutely different because you went off 2 pages and like idk an hour and I went off a whole days worth of content before placing a vote.

What I find hilarious is if I didn’t vote you, I highly doubt you would draw this conclusion at this point.

I have thoroughly explained every vote and reasoning why I am doing what I am doing yet you think I am scum for trying to do this?

Do you not remember playing scum with me and being the calculating motherfucker in the background the entire time and being risk adverse?

Your logical conclusion is completely in the face of my meta and behavior as scum that helped us get a win like 1-3 games ago (I don’t keep explicit track, sue me).

Underlined: yes but not for the reason you think. It was not because it was a vote on me that I find it suspicious but rather a brash vote in general.

Bold: Do you not remember me being scum like two games ago where I lurked all game and posted like three times a phase? I mustnt be scum!

But in all seriousness this is implying you are unable to change how you play, and with games like these with unique mechanics, it is inevitable our gameplay will alter from our norm

[worcej]

To avoid any further confusion

TOWN
Glitter
FlyingBoat

NULL
Lfischl
Chaqa
Damo

SCUM
Eden
Worc
Flavius

Ordered within groups

I think I forgot him because I assumed there were only 9 players. Plus eden saying its a 2/9 chance of hitting mafia if we do it random threw me off because i didnt realize he was excluding himself

Explain why you voted me first before Flavius.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

To avoid any further confusion

TOWN
Glitter
FlyingBoat

NULL
Lfischl
Chaqa
Damo

SCUM
Eden
Worc
Flavius

Ordered within groups

I think I forgot him because I assumed there were only 9 players. Plus eden saying its a 2/9 chance of hitting mafia if we do it random threw me off because i didnt realize he was excluding himself

Explain why you voted me first before Flavius.

Upon reread I just found it incredibly strange the way you did all of that

Also if I was only voting you to save myself, why would I not stay consistent to this reads list while also potentially having you vote with my on Flavius?
I think it was you who asked me to join you on Flavius.

[worcej]

You emphasized order and have been scared to make votes but picked me first when you supposedly scum read someone else more.

I call bullshit on your reads

[worcej]

To avoid any further confusion

TOWN
Glitter
FlyingBoat

NULL
Lfischl
Chaqa
Damo

SCUM
Eden
Worc
Flavius

Ordered within groups

I think I forgot him because I assumed there were only 9 players. Plus eden saying its a 2/9 chance of hitting mafia if we do it random threw me off because i didnt realize he was excluding himself

Explain why you voted me first before Flavius.

Upon reread I just found it incredibly strange the way you did all of that

Also if I was only voting you to save myself, why would I not stay consistent to this reads list while also potentially having you vote with my on Flavius?
I think it was you who asked me to join you on Flavius.

”upon reread” = “I need to make some bullshit up to justify this action, hope no one calls me out for it because I won’t make this obvious when I make this vote”

[worcej]

But hey, you still scum him right? Just vote him now too. 2 people need to die Will!

[Chaqa]

I will also admit I am growing disappointed in lack of content from damo, fisch, glitter, and Chaqa at this point.

We’re past the 24 hour mark everyone. Do something.

I’m a little at a loss as what to do. I’ve been thinking about the game for a bit and so far I’m kinda not feeling much tbh.

I kinda don’t like Will or Flav but it’s all vibes

[Chaqa]

Second

##vote will

Yes I know that I cannot take this back.

On reread theres just something about this that doesnt make sense

The #1 priority as scum is to avoid bringing unnecessary attention to yourself, thats like incredibly important with this setup. And yet worcej, who mind you is not stupid, does the exact opposite of this. Assuming worcej is playing to win, I can only assume 1 of 3 things

A. Worcej just had a terrible opening and flubbed (unlikely)
B. He is mafia trying to be townread off WIFOM that he would never do this as mafia
C. He is town trying to be townread off WIFOM that he would never do this as mafia

I find in this game that with how aware worcej seems to be about needing to conserve miskills, that C is very unlikely, as it is risky and if C is the correct option, directly opposes what he seems to be most concerned about in needing to hit scum

I stated why I think A is unlikely, worcej I think is unlikely to do something like this

Thus I am left with B being the most likely option

##VOTE WORCEJ

This bad.

You know what… ##Vote Will

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

You emphasized order and have been scared to make votes but picked me first when you supposedly scum read someone else more.

I call bullshit on your reads

A valid point, I would again say that upon reread I found it bad enough to warrant a vote.

Explain why you voted me first before Flavius.

Upon reread I just found it incredibly strange the way you did all of that

Also if I was only voting you to save myself, why would I not stay consistent to this reads list while also potentially having you vote with my on Flavius?
I think it was you who asked me to join you on Flavius.

”upon reread” = “I need to make some bullshit up to justify this action, hope no one calls me out for it because I won’t make this obvious when I make this vote”

And I cant really say upon reread as justification because you slander using that reason as well. Not the first time I’ve come to a conclusion change due to a reread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But hey, you still scum him right? Just vote him now too. 2 people need to die Will!

Scum him but not as much as you rn

[worcej]

I really didnt think I was in any position to die?? And mine is absolutely different because you went off 2 pages and like idk an hour and I went off a whole days worth of content before placing a vote.

What I find hilarious is if I didn’t vote you, I highly doubt you would draw this conclusion at this point.

I have thoroughly explained every vote and reasoning why I am doing what I am doing yet you think I am scum for trying to do this?

Do you not remember playing scum with me and being the calculating motherfucker in the background the entire time and being risk adverse?

Your logical conclusion is completely in the face of my meta and behavior as scum that helped us get a win like 1-3 games ago (I don’t keep explicit track, sue me).

Underlined: yes but not for the reason you think. It was not because it was a vote on me that I find it suspicious but rather a brash vote in general.

Bold: Do you not remember me being scum like two games ago where I lurked all game and posted like three times a phase? I mustnt be scum!

But in all seriousness this is implying you are unable to change how you play, and with games like these with unique mechanics, it is inevitable our gameplay will alter from our norm

Commentary on bold: “lurking” and “high volume” are not meta based things to get scummed for. It’s the actions/activity of the game that matters to me.

I 100% think an excited entry by you is more scum indicative because Jamie sent the role PMs out many hours before the game and you strike me as the impatient player who is ready to launch when you get an exciting role.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##vote will

Yes I know that I cannot take this back.

On reread theres just something about this that doesnt make sense

The #1 priority as scum is to avoid bringing unnecessary attention to yourself, thats like incredibly important with this setup. And yet worcej, who mind you is not stupid, does the exact opposite of this. Assuming worcej is playing to win, I can only assume 1 of 3 things

A. Worcej just had a terrible opening and flubbed (unlikely)
B. He is mafia trying to be townread off WIFOM that he would never do this as mafia
C. He is town trying to be townread off WIFOM that he would never do this as mafia

I find in this game that with how aware worcej seems to be about needing to conserve miskills, that C is very unlikely, as it is risky and if C is the correct option, directly opposes what he seems to be most concerned about in needing to hit scum

I stated why I think A is unlikely, worcej I think is unlikely to do something like this

Thus I am left with B being the most likely option

##VOTE WORCEJ

This bad.

You know what… ##Vote Will

Can you explain? Do you just not like my logic

[Chaqa]

On reread theres just something about this that doesnt make sense

The #1 priority as scum is to avoid bringing unnecessary attention to yourself, thats like incredibly important with this setup. And yet worcej, who mind you is not stupid, does the exact opposite of this. Assuming worcej is playing to win, I can only assume 1 of 3 things

A. Worcej just had a terrible opening and flubbed (unlikely)
B. He is mafia trying to be townread off WIFOM that he would never do this as mafia
C. He is town trying to be townread off WIFOM that he would never do this as mafia

I find in this game that with how aware worcej seems to be about needing to conserve miskills, that C is very unlikely, as it is risky and if C is the correct option, directly opposes what he seems to be most concerned about in needing to hit scum

I stated why I think A is unlikely, worcej I think is unlikely to do something like this

Thus I am left with B being the most likely option

##VOTE WORCEJ

This bad.

You know what… ##Vote Will

Can you explain? Do you just not like my logic

The vibes are off. Straight skibbidi

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

This bad.

You know what… ##Vote Will

Can you explain? Do you just not like my logic

The vibes are off. Straight skibbidi

Yikes this bit is going to get on my nerves

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

What I find hilarious is if I didn’t vote you, I highly doubt you would draw this conclusion at this point.

I have thoroughly explained every vote and reasoning why I am doing what I am doing yet you think I am scum for trying to do this?

Do you not remember playing scum with me and being the calculating motherfucker in the background the entire time and being risk adverse?

Your logical conclusion is completely in the face of my meta and behavior as scum that helped us get a win like 1-3 games ago (I don’t keep explicit track, sue me).

Underlined: yes but not for the reason you think. It was not because it was a vote on me that I find it suspicious but rather a brash vote in general.

Bold: Do you not remember me being scum like two games ago where I lurked all game and posted like three times a phase? I mustnt be scum!

But in all seriousness this is implying you are unable to change how you play, and with games like these with unique mechanics, it is inevitable our gameplay will alter from our norm

Commentary on bold: “lurking” and “high volume” are not meta based things to get scummed for. It’s the actions/activity of the game that matters to me.

I 100% think an excited entry by you is more scum indicative because Jamie sent the role PMs out many hours before the game and you strike me as the impatient player who is ready to launch when you get an exciting role.

Didnt people literally scum me in that game for lurking?

Also yes I understand where you are coming from with the reasoning of my first post. I just find someone who thinks that scum will pounce on a mistake unlikely to throw two votes right away

[worcej]

But hey, you still scum him right? Just vote him now too. 2 people need to die Will!

Scum him but not as much as you rn

Considering nothing really changed between your read list and your reread, I think you’re just caught justifying a shit move here.

At least I admittedly said my vote on you was bad, but the other 2 are solidly entrenched in reasons.

I look forward to the GT for this game - I think the other 6 town players should be admonished for being so cautious and scared to do something here.