WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Of course if we did agree it would be pretty funny to see the mafia flail about trying to discredit fishy

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But it will never happen for obv reasons

[President Eden]

Lmaoooooo we should have everyone vote everyone except me hehheheheheheh

worcej is the obviously correct Designated Survivor here.

No lol

I mean full transparency if people are actually doing this then we should do fisch since his chance of being scum is just literally 2/7 and without any outside bias from us to decide what his alignment might be

I think you’re missing the elegance of your own idea here lol. Reducing the game to a 78% dice roll (lfischl is 2/9 btw not 2/7) is obviously superb odds. But we don’t have to be so bearish on our solving ability. Finding one correct townread in day 1 is trivial, and that’s all we need to do to win. We can easily push our odds above 78% by choosing someone who is actively participating.

I get that you have worc as a 1/3 shot at mafia, so you don’t want it to be him. That’s fair enough, but that doesn’t mean we should reduce it to pure RNG. Have a little faith!

[President Eden]

I will alternatively submit Boat as a candidate. I feel pretty good about both of them. worc is better, but we need consensus, so if Will won’t go with worc, let’s do Boat.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

worcej is the obviously correct Designated Survivor here.

No lol

I mean full transparency if people are actually doing this then we should do fisch since his chance of being scum is just literally 2/7 and without any outside bias from us to decide what his alignment might be

I think you’re missing the elegance of your own idea here lol. Reducing the game to a 78% dice roll (lfischl is 2/9 btw not 2/7) is obviously superb odds. But we don’t have to be so bearish on our solving ability. Finding one correct townread in day 1 is trivial, and that’s all we need to do to win. We can easily push our odds above 78% by choosing someone who is actively participating.

I get that you have worc as a 1/3 shot at mafia, so you don’t want it to be him. That’s fair enough, but that doesn’t mean we should reduce it to pure RNG. Have a little faith!

Hm ok I have a plan

“I have plans that I cannot share wit you right now because the haters will sabotage”

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I say if you do think my plan has some merit just don’t mention who your candidate is and just vote ppl you think are scummy

[GlitterBomb]

worcej is the obviously correct Designated Survivor here.

No lol

I mean full transparency if people are actually doing this then we should do fisch since his chance of being scum is just literally 2/7 and without any outside bias from us to decide what his alignment might be

I think you’re missing the elegance of your own idea here lol. Reducing the game to a 78% dice roll (lfischl is 2/9 btw not 2/7) is obviously superb odds. But we don’t have to be so bearish on our solving ability. Finding one correct townread in day 1 is trivial, and that’s all we need to do to win. We can easily push our odds above 78% by choosing someone who is actively participating.

I get that you have worc as a 1/3 shot at mafia, so you don’t want it to be him. That’s fair enough, but that doesn’t mean we should reduce it to pure RNG. Have a little faith!

Where is the 1/3 chance coming from?

[President Eden]

I just realized this is a terrible idea lol.

It needs consensus… meaning if we pick a townie then the mafia can simply wait to see how we vote and counteract it at the last minute. And if we pick a mafia, we just lose.

It was a good try while it lasted…

[President Eden]

No lol

I mean full transparency if people are actually doing this then we should do fisch since his chance of being scum is just literally 2/7 and without any outside bias from us to decide what his alignment might be

I think you’re missing the elegance of your own idea here lol. Reducing the game to a 78% dice roll (lfischl is 2/9 btw not 2/7) is obviously superb odds. But we don’t have to be so bearish on our solving ability. Finding one correct townread in day 1 is trivial, and that’s all we need to do to win. We can easily push our odds above 78% by choosing someone who is actively participating.

I get that you have worc as a 1/3 shot at mafia, so you don’t want it to be him. That’s fair enough, but that doesn’t mean we should reduce it to pure RNG. Have a little faith!

Where is the 1/3 chance coming from?

He said he thought one of me/worc/Flav is mafia. It’s actually higher because he allowed for 2, but at least 1/3 chance in his view

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hm I was trying to get the scum to vote people in order to force them to cooperate (since you can’t unvote) but if now that Eden pointed out it’s scum sided then that plan is not really viable anymore

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok nvm new plan: kill the baddies

[Jamiet99uk]

So we can engineer a draw with an all player tie....

....if there is a a nine-way tie for first, everyone will die.

##CALL GM

In case of an 9 player tie, is it a draw?

Also hear me out because this is going to sound crazy, what if we do an 8 player draw in votes and kill everyone except one? The odds of a town victory are greatly improved rather than playing normally

In a nine player tie, everybody dies, and it's a collective loss.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

....if there is a a nine-way tie for first, everyone will die.

##CALL GM

In case of an 9 player tie, is it a draw?

Also hear me out because this is going to sound crazy, what if we do an 8 player draw in votes and kill everyone except one? The odds of a town victory are greatly improved rather than playing normally

In a nine player tie, everybody dies, and it's a collective loss.

Do we sacrifice ourselves for the greater good

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Lol jk but it would be funny

So far there’s at leastone within Flav Eden Worc and likely 1 in the rest.

TOWN

Glitter
FlyingBoat
Lfischl
Damo
Eden
Worc
Flavius

SCUM

Keep in mind outside of the italicized and lfisch the others are pretty interchangeable and are based purely on vibes

[President Eden]

Hm I was trying to get the scum to vote people in order to force them to cooperate (since you can’t unvote) but if now that Eden pointed out it’s scum sided then that plan is not really viable anymore

…oh

In fairness, me pointing it out isn’t what made it nonviable. You don’t think they would have just gone alone and plopped committal votes down first, do you?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hm I was trying to get the scum to vote people in order to force them to cooperate (since you can’t unvote) but if now that Eden pointed out it’s scum sided then that plan is not really viable anymore

…oh

In fairness, me pointing it out isn’t what made it nonviable. You don’t think they would have just gone alone and plopped committal votes down first, do you?

Well seeing how two of my top scum reads already have, yes

[Chaqa]

Lol jk but it would be funny

So far there’s at leastone within Flav Eden Worc and likely 1 in the rest.

TOWN

Glitter
FlyingBoat
Lfischl
Damo
Eden
Worc
Flavius

SCUM

Keep in mind outside of the italicized and lfisch the others are pretty interchangeable and are based purely on vibes

I'm sorry, but having seven people listed as town at this stage is either laughably optimistic or purposefully broad.

Like, how the hell, after 9 pages, are you feeling that way?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

The thing about Flav is that his takes are so bogus and easy to debunk that it would make one think he is town because of how inconsistent it is but like I’m gonna wifom and say he’s scum

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Lol jk but it would be funny

So far there’s at leastone within Flav Eden Worc and likely 1 in the rest.

TOWN

Glitter
FlyingBoat
Lfischl
Damo
Eden
Worc
Flavius

SCUM

Keep in mind outside of the italicized and lfisch the others are pretty interchangeable and are based purely on vibes

I'm sorry, but having seven people listed as town at this stage is either laughably optimistic or purposefully broad.

Like, how the hell, after 9 pages, are you feeling that way?

Nono it’s a spectrum from towniest to scummiest

[President Eden]

Hm I was trying to get the scum to vote people in order to force them to cooperate (since you can’t unvote) but if now that Eden pointed out it’s scum sided then that plan is not really viable anymore

…oh

In fairness, me pointing it out isn’t what made it nonviable. You don’t think they would have just gone alone and plopped committal votes down first, do you?

Well seeing how two of my top scum reads already have, yes

That’s not the same thing at all lol. In the context of your plan, mafia had two counterplays:

1) Roll with it if it looks like one of their own would be selected. They may commit before some townies in that case, but they still won’t commit until they start seeing townies commit first.
2) Wait as long as possible to commit if it looks like a townie would be selected. Let the votes fall where they will, and then engineer a day where a lot of townies die and they win. It’s strictly optimal for them to wait—if everyone else goes first they win; if others are hesitant, the plan loses consensus and falls apart and they don’t lose.

That’s very different from a random mafia player dropping a vote here or there to push their agenda