WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

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Re: WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

#41 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:54 pm

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Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:42 pm


I think it's better to just hunt for scum lmao, but that being said, when all else is equal in terms of my scum sus on a series of people I'll generally vote for the least useful of those people and in my experience it has borne out in history as the better things to do.

When we got rid of shit town early and tracked VCA we tended to do well and when I was mafia, I explicitly tried to force the opposite to occur by going on what I thought at the time to be a suicide run to get rid of durga.
I don't like this take only because you're implying we have free time here to employ VCA.

We have 2 miskills boss - you don't have the luxury to just toss one out.
Don't we have extra because of double day?
No? If we get 2 town today then it's 4-2 on the next day phase and "effectively" KyLo.

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#42 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:54 pm

Well we have to get one of two the next day, so we have three miskills, not two, right?

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#43 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:56 pm

Because 4-2 if we go 1-1, it's 3-1 into the night and 2-1 after. So that's 3 MKs in a 9 person game.

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#44 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:56 pm

You seem awfully concerned with mechs for someone who scumread me for mechs

You also are worried about wasting MKs while throwing two votes on people off 2 pages

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#45 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:00 am

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Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:54 pm
Well we have to get one of two the next day, so we have three miskills, not two, right?
I guess you can say that but I looked at it the opposite that we'd be forced to find one.

I don't feel we have a day to waste in this process and should smack scum now.

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#46 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:07 am

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You seem awfully concerned with mechs for someone who scumread me for mechs

You also are worried about wasting MKs while throwing two votes on people off 2 pages
When did I scum you for mechs? I scummed you for jumping in and excited posting and I think you'd do that as scum.

Did you not just watch Game 1 of this 'Olympics'? Town fucked up D1 royally by just letting it slip through their fingers.

D1 is crucial and I've just created actual content that is irreversible.

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#47 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:08 am

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Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:47 pm
Will being hyper excited rubbed me wrong and I feel obligated to policy a player wanting to make "soft" mechanics here.
What does this mean if not wanting to policy kill me for doing mechs

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#48 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:09 am

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Because 4-2 if we go 1-1, it's 3-1 into the night and 2-1 after. So that's 3 MKs in a 9 person game.
The 3rd miskill is 100% dependent on getting a scum. I wouldn't really consider it an "available" MK like you are.

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#49 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:09 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:08 am
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:47 pm
Will being hyper excited rubbed me wrong and I feel obligated to policy a player wanting to make "soft" mechanics here.
What does this mean if not wanting to policy kill me for doing mechs
The second half was pretaining to Eden - I understand your confusion.

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#50 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:10 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:09 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:08 am
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:47 pm
Will being hyper excited rubbed me wrong and I feel obligated to policy a player wanting to make "soft" mechanics here.
What does this mean if not wanting to policy kill me for doing mechs
The second half was pretaining to Eden - I understand your confusion.
Oh rip

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#51 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:14 am

Still dislike the reasoning behind the vote but like how do i defend against being scummed for posting first lmao

I mean I dont usually post first anyways as either alignment, this is an outlier

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#52 Post by President Eden » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:14 am

worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:45 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:22 pm
In the meantime we can use &&s to soft vote.

&&vote chaqa
##vote Eden

Soft voting is stupid and honestly anti-town in my opinion. It’s not actually any pressure.
I’m not worried about this coming up with me, but I think it’s stupid and reckless to throw a vote out that you can’t take back this early in the phase without any idea how the day is going to develop. So I’d like you to explain the alternative view because it’s not obvious to me at all

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#53 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:15 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:09 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:56 pm
Because 4-2 if we go 1-1, it's 3-1 into the night and 2-1 after. So that's 3 MKs in a 9 person game.
The 3rd miskill is 100% dependent on getting a scum. I wouldn't really consider it an "available" MK like you are.
I mean that's literally the definition of an available miskill. I think the fact the 2nd day exists is throwing off your math. You don't say in a game where you have 5 miskills that you only have 4 because if you don't catch one after the 5th you lose.
worcej wrote:
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Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:54 pm
Well we have to get one of two the next day, so we have three miskills, not two, right?
I guess you can say that but I looked at it the opposite that we'd be forced to find one.

I don't feel we have a day to waste in this process and should smack scum now.
Well, yes :lol: I think it is fairly obvious that the ideal is that we catch scum as frequently and as early as possible.

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#54 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:17 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:14 am
Still dislike the reasoning behind the vote but like how do i defend against being scummed for posting first lmao

I mean I dont usually post first anyways as either alignment, this is an outlier
I do find your somewhat-coyness about having a vote on you interesting.

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#55 Post by President Eden » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:20 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:37 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:24 pm
Not having a bot is gonna be cheeks lol.

That’s all I got for now
Wait what happened to the bot?
I might be misremembering, but my understanding was that due to having simultaneous games running and the bot not being designed for this voting format, we won’t have it

IANAGM however so don’t take my word for it :lol:

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#56 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:23 am

President Eden wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:20 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:37 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:24 pm
Not having a bot is gonna be cheeks lol.

That’s all I got for now
Wait what happened to the bot?
I might be misremembering, but my understanding was that due to having simultaneous games running and the bot not being designed for this voting format, we won’t have it

IANAGM however so don’t take my word for it :lol:
Well that's annoying. But I guess with 9 people it still won't be the absolute worst to just use normal search

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#57 Post by President Eden » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:24 am

I think I townread worcej for this though

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#58 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:26 am

President Eden wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:24 am
I think I townread worcej for this though
Classic Eden play, negging worcej and then trying to buddy him 8-)

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#59 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:29 am

President Eden wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:14 am
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:45 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:22 pm
In the meantime we can use &&s to soft vote.

&&vote chaqa
##vote Eden

Soft voting is stupid and honestly anti-town in my opinion. It’s not actually any pressure.
I’m not worried about this coming up with me, but I think it’s stupid and reckless to throw a vote out that you can’t take back this early in the phase without any idea how the day is going to develop. So I’d like you to explain the alternative view because it’s not obvious to me at all
I think it's far more helpful for me as a town player to put my firm fist down on you for pushing the "soft votes" because ultimately they mean nothing and should be treated as such.

So, FWIW, I don't think I wasted my vote on you. I firmly believe you're scummy for pushing a soft mechanic to keep the gamestate in a controlled state.

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#60 Post by worcej » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:29 am

President Eden wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:20 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:37 pm
President Eden wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:24 pm
Not having a bot is gonna be cheeks lol.

That’s all I got for now
Wait what happened to the bot?
I might be misremembering, but my understanding was that due to having simultaneous games running and the bot not being designed for this voting format, we won’t have it

IANAGM however so don’t take my word for it :lol:
Yeah. No bot this game.

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