M 1029: The webMafia Olympics game 1 SPY VS SPY

[brainbomb]

##Vote Hamilton

[Col7by]

In case of nk, here are dirty reads and states
-----Town-----
BB
----Slight town---
Bona
HB
----Null----
yoyo
----Scum----
Ghug
Haze
Bozo
Colby

Within categories, I have ordered them from least likely to be an OG spy to most likely to be an OG spy. Stuff can obviously change based on recruits, but this is where we are at Night 2

What is your obsession with me being an OG I’d like to hear more

[Col7by]

Ive mostly been watching the olympics sorry for not being around as much. We watched syncrhonized diving last night and just saw us defeat the germans 4-1.

Just got back from the gym and was watching it

[brainbomb]

##Organizer Note
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back to player stuff
I still think hamilton is an original OG mafia, and Haze was also. I liked some of what haze said at night but for me it feels a little too late. I dont have great pairs but I am sure bozo is never mafia with ghug, colby, or spirit. im also sure yoyo is never mafia with hamilton, haze or bona.

alot of combos still possible from all that. and ill be working through it today, also pondering there may only be 3 of us left on the good side.

[Col7by]

##Organizer Note
the signup confirmation list is up for game 2. please pay attention to what thread you are posting in as that thread may end up as main thread instead of ours. so just pay attention. that is all.

back to player stuff
I still think hamilton is an original OG mafia, and Haze was also. I liked some of what haze said at night but for me it feels a little too late. I dont have great pairs but I am sure bozo is never mafia with ghug, colby, or spirit. im also sure yoyo is never mafia with hamilton, haze or bona.

alot of combos still possible from all that. and ill be working through it today, also pondering there may only be 3 of us left on the good side.

I feel like with you being so active in solving there is real chance you were recruited and this is a very safe post to support that. But…. As a town still I think I need to work with you to get out other mafia still so I like your reads here except not sold on the HB part

[brainbomb]

I feel like with you being so active in solving there is real chance you were recruited and this is a very safe post to support that. But…. As a town still I think I need to work with you to get out other mafia still so I like your reads here except not sold on the HB part

Well HB has been mentioning you for quite a while. I dont think he is trying to minsconstrue an innate desire to kill you. I think you could be mafia with yoyo given he suddenly stopped scumreading you D2 and switched to a no kill stance. but beyond that conspiracy pair, your posts dont seem all that scummy. you dont display having more info on any other phase than the one which preceeded it. so join me.

[Col7by]

I feel like with you being so active in solving there is real chance you were recruited and this is a very safe post to support that. But…. As a town still I think I need to work with you to get out other mafia still so I like your reads here except not sold on the HB part

Well HB has been mentioning you for quite a while. I dont think he is trying to minsconstrue an innate desire to kill you. I think you could be mafia with yoyo given he suddenly stopped scumreading you D2 and switched to a no kill stance. but beyond that conspiracy pair, your posts dont seem all that scummy. you dont display having more info on any other phase than the one which preceeded it. so join me.

Yea that’s why I changed on yoyo day 2. I just don’t like the quick change in new line of thinking from them and wish I was online to switch my vote at EOD

[Hamilton Brian]

Yers, Brain, I am OG spy.

You've been pretty deliberate this game. Not flinging around too much; kind of just sticking with 2 or 3 people, but also utilizing a process that I know is flawed since you've used it to scum me.

Just for the purposes of this game...let that attachment to your process go...and just focus on me in THIS game.

What are the scratches on the wall that tell you I am mafia?

OR are you accusing as a way of confessing?

I think you're surfacing, and you've got a neat little tactic that to anyone not you looks like, "Ah, look at Brain...he's really trying to solve the game," but I think it is more a smoke and mirrors dog and pony show. Especially since your conclusion is bunk.

##Vote Brain

[brainbomb]

Im not a fan of repeating myself, but youre scum so; unless someone besides you gives a shit im not gonna repost all the things I think are obvious scumtells from you

[Hamilton Brian]

Im not a fan of repeating myself, but youre scum so; unless someone besides you gives a shit im not gonna repost all the things I think are obvious scumtells from you

Are you ever going to be disappointed if I flip. Sometimes the strident tenacity of belief is a positive, but in this case, it's not.

[brainbomb]

Im not a fan of repeating myself, but youre scum so; unless someone besides you gives a shit im not gonna repost all the things I think are obvious scumtells from you

Are you ever going to be disappointed if I flip. Sometimes the strident tenacity of belief is a positive, but in this case, it's not.

the only way I could be disappointed is if we were both town. which I just explained, you arent town. so.. this would seem to be a pretty telling tale of your supposed scumread

[Hamilton Brian]

Im not a fan of repeating myself, but youre scum so; unless someone besides you gives a shit im not gonna repost all the things I think are obvious scumtells from you

Are you ever going to be disappointed if I flip. Sometimes the strident tenacity of belief is a positive, but in this case, it's not.

the only way I could be disappointed is if we were both town. which I just explained, you arent town. so.. this would seem to be a pretty telling tale of your supposed scumread

And I have my doubts on your alignment. In doing the iso your N1 read on me went from "seems town" to you then digging into your device and posting 14 hours later with "a series of alarming revelations."

You're like William Randolph Hearst and your own brand of Brian-journalism.

[brainbomb]

More like William Jennings Bryan. Only instead of a bible, I have my methods which remain steadfast captures of truth.

[Hamilton Brian]

More like William Jennings Bryan. Only instead of a bible, I have my methods which remain steadfast captures of truth.

A disgraced populist? C'mon man!

[bozotheclown]

No NK most likely means that those of us who are still town are not in a very good position. I don't know what else we can do D3 other than try to DK an original mafia, though. I think our only winning path is to get rid of the original mafia and hope the mafia DK each other instead of town.

Reading everything SpiritoftheRadio posted after I voted for him, I think there is a very good chance I was right that he is mafia. He seemed too confident in his accusation that I am mafia and I don't think he provided a good explanation for thinking that, other than me voting for him. If he was town, I think he would have considered that I was mistaken rather than jump to the conclusion that I am mafia. Of course, he could be mafia and still think I was mafia, but I think him voting for me and pushing my wagon was motivated by trying to discredit me and hopefully eliminate me. This also makes me think I might have been right that he is an original mafia, and therefore a good DK.

###VOTE SpiritoftheRadio
##END

[bozotheclown]

SpiritoftheRadio was town reading me D1 and N1, then after I voted for SpiritoftheRadio and speculated that he recruited Bonatogether, SpiritoftheRadio concluded that I must have been recruited and was trying to protect Col7by, ignoring that Col7by was voting for me, which he would had to have thought was a bus, but he failed to mention.

Then, SpiritoftheRadio started posting things like this, retroactively scum reading me for D1 despite actively town reading me during D1, so he could push the idea that I might be an original mafia:

hard nope, you switched off no kill after advocating no kill all day, so did HB when he didn't need to. Bozo didn't fuck with the tie no kill when he wanted the kill to happen and was gunna let no kill happen. Just nope, you have the best excuse for being inconsistent because you were trying to save your skin, but nope. nope nope nope. folks are not being consistent. this is mafia, i am being ridiculous to expect this, but that is my frustration is all.

First of all I thought you were a no kill person tbh. Second of all I don’t believE my stance has changed on the idea that we should be killing so this whole statement feels like an overgeneralisation.

I reread most of Haze, I am confident he has not actually read even one of my posts in the entire thread, maybe one of the memes but not two sentences I've written back to back, and especially not the one he quoted from me. When a post ends with *sips from whiskey and delusions of grandeur* you dont get to come in and say, woah this guy overgeneralized a bit and be hailed as saying something work donkey doo. In the 2nd quote from me, I am just completely right on every statement and I am being specific, insert: *why y'all booing me when I'm right* Hannibal meme

Bozo also has seemed scummier on day 1 than I remember, I forgot about the whole letting the tie play out bullshit he pulled at EoD.

I am feeling like going back to colby since I think he is the one that chose bozo and haze is probably just disengaged town. I didnt go back and reread the brainbomb hit piece on him, but that is for tomorrow. I think bozo is a good kill no matter what though, I have reexamined and feel like he could be an OG spy now, although probably still 60% turned and 40% og spy.

[bozotheclown]

SpiritoftheRadio D1 near EOD:

"Bozo seems cool, trying to solve, not being dumb, seems like town, maybe most town towny. Most importantly since there are no connections to draw between players rn is that he feels right on brand."

SpiritoftheRadio D2 after I voted for him:

"Bozo also has seemed scummier on day 1 than I remember, I forgot about the whole letting the tie play out bullshit he pulled at EoD."

[bozotheclown]

If one of the original mafia had recruited the other N1 and the other successfully recruited, I think the 2 mafia team would have NKed the lone original mafia N2, so it is very likely the game was 5-2-2 on D2 (with a very low chance of 7-1-1). Both mafia successfully recruiting again N2 seems like the worse case for town, but town can still win with the following:

D3: DK m1-1
N3: m2 NK m1-2
D3: DK m2-1
N4: m2 NK m1-3
D5: DK m2-2
N5: m2 NK town
D6: DK m2-3

[Col7by]

SpiritoftheRadio was town reading me D1 and N1, then after I voted for SpiritoftheRadio and speculated that he recruited Bonatogether, SpiritoftheRadio concluded that I must have been recruited and was trying to protect Col7by, ignoring that Col7by was voting for me, which he would had to have thought was a bus, but he failed to mention.

Then, SpiritoftheRadio started posting things like this, retroactively scum reading me for D1 despite actively town reading me during D1, so he could push the idea that I might be an original mafia:

First of all I thought you were a no kill person tbh. Second of all I don’t believE my stance has changed on the idea that we should be killing so this whole statement feels like an overgeneralisation.

I reread most of Haze, I am confident he has not actually read even one of my posts in the entire thread, maybe one of the memes but not two sentences I've written back to back, and especially not the one he quoted from me. When a post ends with *sips from whiskey and delusions of grandeur* you dont get to come in and say, woah this guy overgeneralized a bit and be hailed as saying something work donkey doo. In the 2nd quote from me, I am just completely right on every statement and I am being specific, insert: *why y'all booing me when I'm right* Hannibal meme

Bozo also has seemed scummier on day 1 than I remember, I forgot about the whole letting the tie play out bullshit he pulled at EoD.

I am feeling like going back to colby since I think he is the one that chose bozo and haze is probably just disengaged town. I didnt go back and reread the brainbomb hit piece on him, but that is for tomorrow. I think bozo is a good kill no matter what though, I have reexamined and feel like he could be an OG spy now, although probably still 60% turned and 40% og spy.

I tried calling out the thing related to me earlier as bad. Just assuming spirit with mislead/stupid town but with many inconsistencies here I get your point. Would lean towards them being recruited also

[bozotheclown]

If it is 3-3-3, a town gets DKed D3, and both mafia teams successfully recruit N3, it would be 4-4 D4 with no way for the mafia to DK or NK each other. I assume this would be a tie, with only 2 of the original 10 players losing the game.