M 1029: The webMafia Olympics game 1 SPY VS SPY

[ghug]

By the way, trying to prove that you’re town also isn’t again your win conditions if everyone is scum reading you.

Right, there's room to do shit like this, I just want to be sure people understand where the line is because the only things that would make this game suck more is is townies working against town, and I kind of wonder if that's what happened yesterday.

I agree with your bold.

Tell me how you think in what way yesterday was town working against town.

I don't remember such a lackluster no-death tie in any other game.

[ghug]

By the way, trying to prove that you’re town also isn’t again your win conditions if everyone is scum reading you.

Right, there's room to do shit like this, I just want to be sure people understand where the line is because the only things that would make this game suck more is is townies working against town, and I kind of wonder if that's what happened yesterday.

That’s bound to happen in any mafia game. Mafia has more information than town does. This game is different in that since there are two opposing mafia teams, the information gap is much smaller. Stuff like this is good for town, even if it causes a little dissonance at first.

Stuff like what?

[Bonatogether]

i think hambean, yogurt, look scummy

i like gorg, beanbomb, and bonzo

Please enlighten us, oh younger gen. Why me? Why yoyo?

i think you're scum. see my easier posts

[Bonatogether]

i think hambean, yogurt, look scummy

i like gorg, beanbomb, and bonzo

And what do you like about ghug besides his passive interest in the game?

What do you like about brain besides his madcap metareads that bring him to wrong conclusions, at least where I am concerned?

What stands out to you about bozo, besides the erstwhile early votes then leaving?

i like that gorg townreads me. OMGUT!

i like that brain is posting thought processes, and i like that they end up similar to me. sucks to be you!

i just love borzo

[Haze with a Z]

I'm your top town?

Technicality tied but yes

Why?

Decently active, interacting with people, not really anything pinging me
anymore, no one else srs you and has made me feel that I should as well.


On another note dogs do not always like walks and I had to practically drag one of my dogs for the first half of the walk and I feel bad because I didn’t want to be in the walk either

[Hamilton Brian]

Did you purposefully avoid discussing yoyo in that delineation? Avoidance being a confession?

Yoyo-bona pair?

[Haze with a Z]

Ok the next post has too much writing so I’m
Gonna come back later when I’m not walking the dogs(and idk when my dad is gonna make me drive to the place I’m taking my driving test at tbh so it could be when I get home or it could be in like 3 hours

[Bonatogether]

Did you purposefully avoid discussing yoyo in that delineation? Avoidance being a confession?

Yoyo-bona pair?

i answered your questions lmao

this is just lying to make me look bad

[Hamilton Brian]

reading beanbone vs hamcomb, observe (plagiarize) that hamcomb survived d1 and is therefore not town

Referencing the current meme that I don't survive day 1s as town. Ha ha!


we do have info? you were the vote that killed dippy, and you made grunk competitive.

That's about the extent of you scumming me when you ask me to look at your earlier posts. Are you riding on Brain's work to make an easy assertion that, as of now, he's not overtly supporting any longer.

That's a head-scratcher.

[Hamilton Brian]

i think hambean, yogurt, look scummy

i like gorg, beanbomb, and bonzo

Please enlighten us, oh younger gen. Why me? Why yoyo?

i think you're scum. see my easier posts

Oh, I see it now. It's your writing style.
"Why me?" I think you're scum.

"Why yoyo?" see my easier <sic> posts.

I get it now. Something about subjects, objects, predicates, and verbs that Ontario university glossed over for you.

[Haze with a Z]

I am actively trying to read the case against yoyo his wagon is putting out, but I can't really find it really, they all just kind of jumped over there. Looks more standard for bona and HB, idk about haze, he made a spectrum and then yoyo was at the bottom, and red means dead i suppose

It sounds like you haven’t read a single post where I quote yoyo

yeah, brain called us out on not reading his case against you earlier, ngl I have basically glazed over most of your posts and those involving you. I went back to read your posts to figure out if you had substance to your comment here, and realized immediately that: no. no you do not. not only do you vote for him twice and fuck up before you get it right, but you give no reasons in either post, and then going a full 3 pages back you didn't even mention yoyo before voting for him. Your posts are laborious to read and me taking your comment at face value and pondering my own shortcomings was wrong and was a waste of time. That's why you're being only talked to by brain and we're glossing over your arguments and his arguments against you. Bigger fish to fry and why work hard to understand someone who isn't putting in the effort to communicate. Simple as.

After reading further, your argument against yoyo is he said he'd pick ghug if he was OG spy and is pretty blatant about wanting/thinking he will be mafia at some point (which literally everyone is thinking and some have admitted, but all have been implicit about in their posts). Now we're at the point we can say town winning would be a miracle. Your argument that I read leading up to the end of day 2 was just "yoyo is being scummy and weird" and thats it. I am not backing down from my statement, arguments are poop, incomprehensible to someone trying to catch up since points are buried and shiiit once found. I am blunt and ramble some for sure, but my core points are in all my non-meme posts. Your style bags for me to deep dive to figure you out, then I dive deep and nothing is there. Dunno what you want from me, so here's honesty. You throwing my own comment back at me had me triggered into self reflection, thinking I needed to learn and grow and be a better spirit.... but no, get a job hippy

I write that I think he is purposely misinterpreting hamilton’s posts and that first post you mention wasn’t even a point I had against them and I believe that was where I thought it was someone else. And if I can find these things while quickly reading back in my posts why can’t you?

[Haze with a Z]

Who was around at EoD? Yoyo. Colby claims he wasn't. Brian? Brain?

Yoyo wanted to no kill and it takes some balls to not break the tie with his own ass in the jackpot, so I think he looks ok unless bozo is his teammate.

My own feeling now is one of defeatist numbness, so I'm hesitant to assume not giving a shit makes you scum, but it's also pretty indefensible to let the day end like that if you're around.

I think he wanted no kill but I also think that there wasn’t really anyone around who wanted yoyo out besides the people on yoyo so he wasn’t really in any danger with the tie.

[Haze with a Z]

I have a thought about the teams after reading the gm post and its kinda angleshooty but I think we have a chance

[Haze with a Z]

I can see this game turning into a game of diplomacy at the end when town’s numbers have dwindled to a minority. If any team has recruited ghug, I’m still unrecruited so pls pick me I’m being so serious right now.

This is either a bluff or a rule violation so I'm going to assume the former.

What rule could it potentially violate?

Play to win

[Haze with a Z]

From the based chat
Bona: what a based day. That was so cringe

Haze: im going to be working on my laptop from 8am to 4:02 pm on end of night. Ill miss out on end of night

Bona: based

Haze: tbh you would say that

Bona: cringe

Haze: tbh I really dont remember things because that would just make things harder. Tbh.

Bona: tbh this is based

Haze: what does that even mean?

Bona: skibidi

don't lump me in with gen alpha cringe

Until now I thought that was supposed to be me talking to brain tbh

[Haze with a Z]

By the way, trying to prove that you’re town also isn’t again your win conditions if everyone is scum reading you.

I don’t think you are trying to prove yourself town, I just think you are trying to be recruit bait for the other team and doing it poorly by saying you’d potentially throw the game if ghug isn’t with you

[Haze with a Z]

i think hambean, yogurt, look scummy

i like gorg, beanbomb, and bonzo

Please enlighten us, oh younger gen. Why me? Why yoyo?

Wait I thought bona was on the older side of y’all because he sounds so serious when you are joking

[Yoyoyozo]

By the way, trying to prove that you’re town also isn’t again your win conditions if everyone is scum reading you.

I don’t think you are trying to prove yourself town, I just think you are trying to be recruit bait for the other team and doing it poorly by saying you’d potentially throw the game if ghug isn’t with you

Understandable assessment. I think a happy medium is me playing in a way that’s kind of scummy (my normal play tbh) so that if I’m not recruited by the team I want, the level of effort I put in after I’m recruited to avoid being DKd would probably reflect that. There are several factors that go into a player’s morale, I’m just being very upfront and honest about mine. That isn’t playing against my wincon, it’s knowing myself and being transparent.

[Yoyoyozo]

It also happens to align with towns wincon because it’s an info gathering tool, and confuses the heck out of mafia, who is unsure of whether or not I’m town or the opposing spy team. I think there’s definitely some game theory going on here because the if it’s 3-3-3 next phase, it’s going to be hard for both spy teams get rid of each other without town.

The potential ghug team might want to wait until N3 to recruit me since I’m (maybe successfully) trying to stave off an opposing recruitment. The non- ghug team will have to figure out if they want to block a recruit, good for town, not recruit me, also good for town.

There’s a bunch of different scenarios that could play out I’m just listing a few ideas. The game is not broken

[Yoyoyozo]

Or… or… maybe I’m not the center of attention, and just trying to get people talking about a very novel kind of game so we can figure this out together.